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Naruto Manga Thread

Discussion in 'Books and Anime Discussion' started by Verse of Darkness, Feb 17, 2007.

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  1. Solomon

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    Raikiri. Kakashi's version is called the Raikiri, and it is infinitely superior to Sasuke's lame-ass bird chirp (just because it's named Chidori. That's a fail name if I ever saw one).
     
  2. Oujou Akaash

    Oujou Akaash Unspeakable

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    Dude, the next thing you know there gonna have a discussion weather sasuke is related to Madara's brother. lol ....oh wait, they are related. Even though they look exactly the same.
     
  3. Aekiel

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    I take it back, raikiri is the S-Ranked improvement on chidori that Kakashi came up with. That still doesn't change that chidori was his original technique and is still a very powerful attack, especially since it can go up against a first stage Rasengan on an equal footing.

    Plus, chidori is one of the cooler names I've heard in Naruto, compared to the likes of katon: endan and the Rin'negan. Seems kind of poetic, being that the sound of a thousand birds is the last thing you're going to hear before you die.

    EDIT (AGAIN): Looking back through the manga though... it tells a different story. Depending on where you look Raikiri is either an S-Class technique to the Chidori's A-Rank, or just a nickname that it acquired when Kakashi cut a bolt of lightning in two with it. Kishimoto can't even keep his techniques straight >_>.

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  4. Oujou Akaash

    Oujou Akaash Unspeakable

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    You. Got. Owned.

    Either way, i swear, if there was a fucking rumor about kakashi being this or that, i'm gonna quit reading manga and stop going to boards altogether. The amount of stupidity some boards produce is incredible.
     
  5. dango-chan

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    Exactly. I never said they were directly related, either. Just that it would be an interesting thing to think about, and that it would make one hell of a plot twist. I just threw the idea out there. I didn't support it. I don't even like Kakashi that much.

    I agree with The Mysterious Nobody, to a degree. There's no resemblance between Hashirama and his brother. They're related. Characters that aren't related don't have to look alike, but they do sometimes. Characters that are related don't have to look alike, either. Most mangaka's just use that so their readers can make connections. I was more concerned with the Hatake's mysterious background. If the clan produces genius shinobi like Kakashi and Sakumo, why doesn't it garner more attention? Up untill these last few chapters, the Senju clan hasn't recieved much attention either. Sure the Hatake were in disgrace, but there wasn't any expansion on that, either. With the way Kishimoto worships all things Uchiha, I wouldn't be suprised if he did make Kakashi a distant descendant of the Senju. He has a Sharingan, after all. Heh, you should read Uzumaki Naruto: Shinobi of the World by Mack-Sama. You'd love the connections in that story... By the way. Did you have that same oppinion when the rumors about Yondaime being Naruto's dad first started?
     
  6. Aekiel

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    The Yondaime father thing could be seen from a mile away. You don't even have to read the manga to know Naruto was going to be the son of someone famous. It's practically a given in stories like this.

    Plucky young kid (Naruto) is persecuted all his life, hopes for a better one and works hard against all the odds to achieve his goal. On the way he meets a wise old man (Sandaime) and a reluctant mentor (Jiraiya) who teaches him all about his special powers (chakra). He learns that something sets him apart from the rest of the Specials that grants him a lot of ambiguously evil power (Kyuubi).

    On his journey he finds a best friend (Sasuke) and a love interest (Sakura) who doesn't return his affections (or does but his friend gets jealous). He rises among the ranks of Specials and slowly gains their respect through his good deeds and righteous attitude, converting at least one person from the Dark as he goes along (Neji & Gaara).

    The hero learns from the Evil guy that the ambiguously evil power was actually forced on him by his famous father, which leads to a load of angst on the hero's part but eventual acceptance and an oath to do nothing but good with that power (or so it should have went >_>).

    The best friend however, grows jealous of the protagonist's success and goes to the Evil antagonist (Orochimaru) for power. He tries to leave and the protagonist goes after him, bringing with him all the friends he's made over the course of the story, to show that friendship is more powerful than the tainted power of the Evil guy.

    Eventual confrontation ensues and the protagonist is forced to use his ambiguously evil power to make his best friend see sense. Choice is made on whether to continue story (friend wins and leaves to join the Dark Side giving the protagonist a reason to become more powerful) or not (protagonist wins and makes his friend see that not all power is worth the price you pay for it).

    Thus we have the stereotypical underdog hero story complete with love, heartbreak and betrayal. It was after that that Kishimoto fucked it up.

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  7. Oujou Akaash

    Oujou Akaash Unspeakable

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    Actually, the whole angst and then acceptance part only lasted about a couple of minutes before he got back to his feet and kicked mizuki's ass with his shadow clones. lol if that isn't baddass i don't know what is.
     
  8. Spanks

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    I think that people are always speculating that people are related because everyone IS related in someway to someone important in this manga. Every important character has a connection to some other important character in some way be it familial, friendship, mentor, enemy etc etc. Truthfully it wouldn't be that surprising if Kakashi was a descendant of the Senju clan.

    I don't recall white chakra being something that Sakumo was known for. I believe that "White Fang" was a nickname he got for that sword he carried that's blade looked like white chakra. If I am correct, the white chakra theory is a fanon theory.
     
  9. Oujou Akaash

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    ...shit, all this talk about naruto makes me drink coffee and watch a movie. Kakashi is aswome the way he is.
     
  10. IndoGhost

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    FACT: Madara is the reason why all villages have their nukunins hunted down.
     
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    Im not saying your wrong but where does it say that?
     
  12. Oujou Akaash

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    Thats actually a good question. Where did it say that? Granted, it's actually a plausible theory but sill.
     
  13. Bucks

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    Most likely he was the first nuke-nin ever.
     
  14. Spanks

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    True, if Konoha was the first village then Madara must have been the first missing nin. Never thought of that actually :)

    I am waiting for the first AU fics where Madara never left Konoha or he was chosen as the Shodai Hokage.
     
  15. Oujou Akaash

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    Oh god strike me down if i ever see those fics.
     
  16. Aekiel

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    Heh, if it was pulled off in the same vein as Hokage Great and Terrible it wouldn't be so bad. Madara seems a good enough morally ambiguous villain that he'd make a good evil overlord. I forget if he gained the Mangekyou before or after the village was created though.

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  17. Spanks

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    Pretty sure if was before. I think Madara said that he sacrificed everything including his brother in order to make the Uchiha great, so that all has to be before the creation of the village.

    Hokage the Great and Terrible was meh. The idea was really good, but the actual writing not as good as the idea.
     
  18. Oujou Akaash

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    Hey, if Madara became the Hokage, there would be no more sasuke, naruto LEE!!!! Everything changes if Madara became a Hokage.
     
  19. Spanks

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    The Uchiha would obviously be in the upper hierarchy of the village politics and not placed in a "corner of the village" as Madara put it.

    Of course Sasuke would be there. He will just grow up in a different environment, as well as Naruto. Chances are that Konoha may be more militaristic and not peace seeking like it was under Shodai, Nidaime and Sandaime.

    Hell you can go a step further and say that Shodai Hokage Madara trains Sarutobi instead of Hashirama and his brother. Sandaime politics would be radically different as well as how the Sannin would turn. I am sure that Shodai and Nidaime's training influenced how Sarutobi developed as a ninja and a politician. If he were trained by a person like Madara he may turn out to be more like Danzou.

    One change has so many possible outcomes.
     
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  20. Oujou Akaash

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    Dude, it was never a peace seeking village in the first place at all. It would have always been the same but a little bit more hardened. And the fact that Madara would have found the secret of his immortality would have made him the Hokage for a long time to come until he gets tired of it and leaves.

    Allot of characters wouldn't exist. Heck, even if they were, there personality would have greatly changed.
     
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