I'm sad. Why there are no honest villains in Naruto who wouldn't abandon their evil ways?
I hope Madara would just kill them all...

Oh, and Rin was a kind girl, much better than Sakura.

 

She was, wasn't she? Before now, Obito and Rin didn't seem like more than acquaintances based on what we were actually shown rather than told. It feels a bit easier to sympathize with Obito's loss now.

Mangastream.

 

Talk no Jutsu at its finest.

 

I thought it was a waste of a chapter. We knew how this was going to end three chaps ago. Why not put it all into one.
Next weeks chapter better not be more of this friendship crap and more violence.

 

Yeah, Naruto using TnJ was expected. And I will say there is something like 99% probability that it will work and Obito will accept Narutos way.

Truthfully, I think it might have been a bit original and interesting if even after Narutos big speech and full Talk-no-Jutsu treatment, Obito would actually have denied Narutos words and remained a villain. Naruto always manages to convert the bad guy to his side, it might have been nice if just once, Naruto did not succeed, even after a "textbook example" of TnJ like this one.

However the presence of Madara, and the knowledge that he has a trump card against Obito that involves Hashiramas Sage Mode pretty much seals the deal in my view. Especially since its been a bit since we saw Madara and Hashirama (meaning Madara probably already has his rod inside Hashirama )

This is what I think is going to happen. I bet Obito will agree with Naruto and surrender. However before Obito can do anything major like unmake the tree or anything, Madara will suddenly burst into the scene powered by Hashiramas Sage Mode (we will probably see the real Hashirama pierced by chakra rods). He will then use his trump card to somehow kill Obito (redemption equals death and all that), and basically take over as the final villain. Furthermore, since Naruto has no connection to Madara, we know that unlike Obito, Madara will almost certainly not be TnJ:ed, since Naruto has no connection to the guy he could use. So Madara will be the final villain that will not and cannot be redemeed.

The one thing I am uncertain about are bijuu though. Most seem to have been nearly pulled out of Obito, and without them, taking Obitos power won't really help Madara. Will he somehow be able to reverse the process, and forcibly pull the bijuu back into himself.

Actually, how could he even become the jinchuuriki, since it was confirmed you need to be alive to become one.

Hmm, now that I consider it further, I think whats going to happen is that Madara will do something to Obito (who is still connected to the tree), and rather than causing the genjutsu eye to appear, he will use Hashiramas SM and the Natural Energy (EDIT: not to mention Mokuton) somehow to manipulate the tree into growing one of those fruits that the mother of RS ate, and which give superpowers. He will then eat it.

That will probably restore him to true life (making him defeatable by Naruto, who does not know any sealing techs), while simultaneously giving him a powerboost equal to a Juubi jinchuuuriki. Heck, Kurama mentions that Obito will be left with just a shell of the Juubi (Madara will probably steal that). Maybe the fruit (if it blooms) will be able to fill that shell and create a totally new Juubi. I mean the God Tree created Juubi in the first place, so its not impossible. At that point Madara may have the power to just cast the infinite genjutsu himself, or it might be revealed that he won't need to bother with that, since by eating the fruit he will have gained near godlike powers and won't need to bother with illusions.

Madara will then likely kill Obito, though I would wager that Obito will do some last act of redemption. Rinne Tensei to bring people like Neji back is a possibility, but I wonder if Kishi would use the same gimmick twice. More likely, he will do something else to help Naruto against Madara. For example, he might transfer that sword of RS to Naruto.

The sword sucked against Naruto&Sasuke, but odds are its powered by willpower or something, and in Narutos hand it will be far more powerfull than it was in the hands of Obito., since Naruto has both more willpower, and his beliefs match those of RS (and so the sword will likely work fully for him)

Heck, depending on what happens to Shukaku and Hachibi, we might even get a fight between Madara as a jinchuuriki of a brand new utterly malevolent newborn Juubi that is born through the fruit fueling the Juubis shell, versus Naruto who has all the 9 bijuu children of RS with him, and who agree to cooperate and place their trust in Naruto and unite against Madara and his evil!Juubi.

So thats my prediction. Obito will be TnJ:ed, he will do something for Naruto, and then he will be killed by Madara. Madara will do something to give himself a powerboost that matches/exceeds Obito as the Juubi jinchuuriki, and he will become the final villain who Naruto has no connection to and therefore cannot TnJ..

 

I'm pretty sure Madara used Obito's Zetsu body to force him into using Samsara on him.

 

Naah. He tried to do that, but Obito managed to resist (with sheer willpower presumably) and used the technique to become a Juubi jinchuuriki instead of Rinne Tensei. As a result, Madara is still a zombie and cannot become a jinchuuriki.

Though it is possible, that after being TnJ:ed, and having his "will" basically broken by Naruto, losing the fight and having the bijuu ripped out of him, Obito will be too weak to resist Madaras control again, and Madara will try to force Obito into using RT again to resurrect himself, and this time it will work and Madara will be resurrected.

The trouble is that Madara mentioned that Hashiramas SM will play somekind of role in his trump card. So having Obito revive Madara with Rinne Tensei might be part of the plan, but it cannot be the whole plan. And since Naruto&co are basically undoing Juubi even as we speak by separating it into the 9(or is it 8? Does the chakra from the gold/silver brothers count) bijuu, Madara is running out of time. If he does not act FAST, there won't be a Juubi to be a jinchuuriki off.

 

Well, at least this is one of Naruto's better speeches, unlike the Pain arc ending. At this point I guess that's about the best we can hope for.

 

I think Madara's plan to become the jinchuuriki may have been secondary to the manifestation of the God Tree, as in, he only wanted the former as a means to the latter. So long as Obito cultivated the tree, his possession of the Juubi was inconsequential, assuming the fruit Madara is trying to obtain (if you're right, and I think you are) is powerful enough for Madara to suppress Obito whether he lost the Juubi's powers or not.

 

New chapter is out.

 

Page 3 was the most interesting
Well, Naruto keep looking kinda more awesome, at least.
Sad that Obito has to keep appearing like such a deranged lovesick virgin to make it happen.

Eh, whatever. Page 3, along with Naruto, was enough for me to like this chapter.

 

Obito needs some damn conviction.

 

I just wish Kishi would get on with this, already. Don't see the sense of dragging this along with flashbacks and speeches, it's not going to get any more plausible or believable. Might just as well get this done with and get on to talking Madara down, and how his hurt feelings can be easily solved with empty promises and hallow words by Naruto.

 

Naruto's skill in psychological warfare is second to none. Apparently, they forgot to mention it in databooks.

Oh, and what happened to Gedo Mazo, is it still inside of Obito?

 

This is so shit. I was expecting excrement from this chapter after last week, but the amount of it surprised me even if I was prepared for it.

 

Off topic but I have to ask, what are you favorite parts or things about Shippuden so far?

 

Probably the best things were meeting Madara, and the 4 Hokage meeting. Obito dying will also be pretty good.

 

Is just me or did Naruto's (And I hate to use this phrase) Talk no Jutsu turn full on mind-screwy at on point there?

 

For me, it is definitely the newly introduced characters, at least for the most part. Stuff like Akatsuki, the other kages, the shinobi of the various villages and their abilities, those are definitely the high points.

Story wise, it has been one steady decline, and I really dislike what Kishi did with most of the characters he introduced.

But really, I think Akatsuki as an idea is just awesome, it was just squandered with many of its members dying in rather stupid ways. After reading worm, I can't help but feel that rather led by a well-intentioned extremist with a god complex, they should have rather been like the Slaughterhouse 9. Just go from place to place and do their thing.

 

Total agreement from me.