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Official Comic Books Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Books and Anime Discussion' started by Hashasheen, May 31, 2012.

  1. Sataniel

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    You want to read new stuff? As in catch up to current point? Or read good books?
     
  2. Jjf88

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    Either or. Both. Would like some good books and to catch up. Even just the essentials.
     
  3. Shinysavage

    Shinysavage Madman With A Box Prestige

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    J. Michael Straczynski's run was controversial, and I didn't read all of it, but what I did read was fantastic. It introduced some new villains and gave a slight mystical reboot to the old radioactive spider; the mystical elements got dropped, but the villains came back for the Spider-Verse crossover.
     
  4. Sataniel

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    First the recent stuff.

    Well, generally a long and pretty bad run by Slott (which included Spider-Verse) on Amazing Spider-Man just ended, so in theory, you would have an ideal jumping point. The problem is that the first arc was pretty weak too. With such things like Kingpin (who is a mayor of NYC now), promoting Spidey as the hero he supports while attacking all other street level heroes. And Daredevil falls for it, despite knowing Peter for years and having facing Kingpin's manipulations for around as many.

    On the other hand, Zdarsky started his run on Spectacular Spider-Man recently, which after the first bad arc got really good when Zdarsky finally realised that he is much better at writing serious stuff than comedy. Unfortunately it ends soon, and we don't know who will replace him. If you want to read that I recommend reading Amazing Spider-Man: Family Business OGN before that.

    If you for some reason got Stockholm Syndrome strong enough to want to continue reading Bendis writing Miles, then he was transported to the main Earth after Secret Wars (2015) and his adventures continued in Spider-Man title. Fortunately, after Bendis left he ended up with more talented people. Zub took over Champions with issue 19 (a team of which Miles is a part of) and Ahmed (who did a great job on Black Bolt recently) will be writing new Miles Morales: Spider-Man ongoing which will start in December. I hope their plans for character won't clash (because you really can't count on editors in modern Marvel).


    As to older stuff, as @Shinysavage mentions, Straczynski's run on Amazing is good, though it has two downs. Sins of the Past which is on Straczynski himself and One More Day which is completely on Quesada and JMS tried his best to make the story not terrible. It's unfortunate that most of the interesting elements Straczynski introduced are screwed over. OMD is followed by the Brand New Day era with rotating writers. It's a pretty good period and even Slott mostly does a good work when not given free reins (focusing on Mister Negative and his "romance" with May in a story that was supposed to be about Mysterio aside), unfortunately after that Slott gets free reins and it gets worse and worse.

    Millar's Marvel Knights Spider-Man and David's Friendly Neighbourhood Spider-Man are two worthwhile runs that take place during respectively early and late part of Straczynski's run.


    From even older stuff.

    Lee-Ditko Amazing Fanstasy #15 + Amazing Spider-Man - One of the strongest titles of the so-called Marvel Age. Lee continues the run after Ditko leaves with Romita Sr. and is still worthwhile, but not as good. In the space of both, most of the key characters and elements of Spider-Man are introduced.
    Busiek's Amazing Fanstasy #16-18 + Untold Tales of Spider-Man - Later comics that fill the gaps in the above. Really good stuff.
    Stern's run on Amazing Spider-Man - One of the best runs all around.
    David's, run on (Peter Parker,) The Spectacular Spider-Man, along with his Amazing issues from that era - Features classic Death of Jean DeWolf among other good stories.
    Michieliniie's Web of Spider-Man - Happens during PAD's run.
    DeMatteis's Kraven's Last Hunt and Nocenti's Mad Dog Ward are two good crossovers over all Spider-titles that place during David's run
    Conway's run on Spectacular Spider-Man - Much better than his more well-known run on Amazing, follows directly from PAD's run.
    DeMatteis's run on Spectacular Spider-Man - Another classic run, follows directly from Conway's. You may want to jump ship when it's pulled into the mess of Clone Saga.
    Michelinie's run on Amazing Spider-Man - Starts around the same time as above. The best run in terms of Peter - MJ romance, unfortunately, suffers from editorial interference which led Michelinie to leaving the book.
    DeMatteis's Soul of the Hunter, one-shot follow-up to Kraven's Last Hunt which was released during his run on Spectacular.

    Well, that looks pretty overwhelming. To easily check relevant issues by the writer use Wikipedia, for the chronology of concurrent books check Marvel Chronology Project.
     
  5. Shinysavage

    Shinysavage Madman With A Box Prestige

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    Man, I'd completely forgotten Sins of the Past, never mind that Straczynski was responsible for it. Its never been mentioned again though, right? So eminently skippable.
     
  6. Sataniel

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    Barely. There is that Sins Remembered story arc in Spectacular and American Son mini, none of which I would especially recommend (though the second one is actually decent). Aside from that it seems that writers decided to ignore that this happened.
     
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