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Official Recommendation Thread: Anime

Discussion in 'Books and Anime Discussion' started by Orm Embar, Jul 29, 2008.

  1. Miner

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    I read that summary and all I could think was Mother of Learning TBH.
     
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    It's my understanding that the manga is a bit more sketch with regards to the sexualization, but the anime is not that bad. Yes, there is the presence of nudity, mild sexual innuendo, and bodily functions. Some of that just relates to cultural differences though. If you remember the original Dragon Ball anime, we see Goku's childlike junk because nudity is not necessarily sexual. Then there's the game Kancho, where children make their hands into a gun and then poke each other in the butthole. That particular one got famous when Kakashi did it to Naruto.

    Made in Abyss is about the confusing transition between childhood and adulthood. A journey of self discovery. It's about childhood innocence, and the loss of it. The show revolves around the dissonance between the art style and age of the protagonists, and the terrible world that they live in. It's the next logical step from Madoka. It's meant to entice you with promises of slice of life fun, moe art style, cute kids doing cute things. Then the gut punch where it destroys all of your prior assumptions.

    I can't recommend it enough. The background art is absolutely breathtaking, and it brings to life the true meaning of the word "fantastic." It's a setting full of color and wonder, and with a phenomenal soundtrack to boot. The characters are fun, and the way they play off of one another is always a treat. Riko is a young girl who is physically nothing special, but who has an emotional and spiritual strength that can't be matched. Reg is physically indomitable as a cyborg/robot, but his loss of his memories leaves him lost and looking for guidance. Following the two of them on their journey to the bottom of the Abyss is an adventure that left me wishing it were a video game that I could play.

    If you like old school fantasy, dungeon crawlers, beautiful art, amazing soundtracks, unique monsters, and characters whose stories will bring you to tears, then Made In Abyss is a must-watch.
     
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    Yeah, anime cut down stuff significantly (though still for example leaving Reg getting a boner as one of the final scenes) so that it may seem as a thematic choice instead of author's obsession with sexualising little kids. Still, sequel was already announced, so I'm just waiting for people's reaction to "Papa's rod" scene.

    Riko is just annoying.
     
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    After the Rain is weird as fuck if you're a prude that thinks a girl a year or less under the age of majority (and consent in Japan by federal law) isn't capable of making informed and reasoned decisions. She's going to be picking a college and major, will be trusted to vote, or join the military, or any numerous decisions that adults are capable of and expected to perform! in a year or less. The differences between a seventeen year old and an eighteen year old's state of mind and life experience are vastly minor, and to say it's "pedophilia" is to remove any character, agency, and most importantly of all choice from Tachibana, both as an almost adult and as a woman.

    Is a twenty-eight year old age difference weird? Sure, I guess, Is Kondo taking advantage of her, either as an elder in her city, or as her workplace superior? No. Shit, she only likes him and he might be willing to reciprocate. Maybe. If he can get over his hangups as both a divorced single father, her boss, and the age difference. Julius Caesar married his seventeen year old daughter to a man thirty years her senior, and that was Pompey's FOURTH wife. I don't think you have too much room to be casting shade, mate.
     
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    What?

    First of all, it's one hundred percent strange for a seventeen-year-old to have such deep and unconditional feelings for someone who literally did a singular kind thing for her at her lowest point.

    And your point about free will or choice doesn't hold up at all. You could've argued that by strict definition pedophilia applies only to prepubescent children, which, fine. But whether or not it is the younger person's choice to engage in any sort of relationship with the older person doesn't change whether or not it's pedophilic or not. Pedophilia is simply attraction to children. The operative word is children, not choice.

    I also think you should probably revise your argument. If you're going to be arguing in one paragraph that Akira's reached her age of majority by modern Japanese laws and customs, then you really shouldn't use Julius Caesar from a bygone era as an example to say that a relationship between a modern 45-year-old man and a 17-year-old girl should be not only not weird, but also acceptable.
     
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    There's a lot of ways to argue your point, Paladin, but I don't think Caesar, in this example, is the best way. You and @Sauce Bauss are a tad too high on Rome.
     
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    Ahh, yes, because a 17 year old is equivalent to prone boning a toddler. Except the whole "17 year olds are over the age of consent in over 80% of the world" bit. If a cop walked in on the two of them fucking in nearly any nation on earth, the most they could do is say "use protection" and walk away.
     
  8. Miner

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    Read the whole post.
     
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    'If you think it's okay to send a fifteen year old to jail, then you shouldn't have a problem with peeing on him'.

    I'm sure this links back to anime in a supremely profound way, but I can't think right now. Excuse me while I go back to watching Sagiri dancing on loop.
     
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    So, Vinland Saga is getting an anime adaptation. Source JP Source.

    If you don't know the manga I urge you to read it, it's really one of the best ones out there.
     
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    So despite being chock-full of tons of cliche tropes, 'B: The Beginning' on Netflix is kinda great. It's like a weird fusion of Death Note and your typical shounen action show.
     
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    I would say that it's Psycho-Pass S2 x Tokyo Ghoul x Zankyou no Terror. All of those are 2/10 and so is the end result.
     
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    I would argue with this, but considering you also think that Toradora is "meh" and Kokoro Connect is poorly executed... it's probably pointless. We just have starkly different anime tastes.
     
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    Long overdue, but finished Kimi no Na wa.

    I have high praise for it, even if I can't really understand just how awe-inspiring the animation must have been as I don't really watch anime. But the story was...

    Wow.

    I mean I've always had a fascination for relationships across space-time and this one handled it beautifully. I think, had I been a bit more well-versed in Japanese culture, the kataware-doki scene would mean more to me, but it was still a great movie.

    Yikes I want to write something for it.

    In the middle of Shigatsu wa kimi no uso ATM. Will probably watch Koe no Katachi after that.
     
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    I wanted to say that defending B is like defending Harry Crow, but actually, Harry Crow is much better constructed. Just from the first episode we have super-secret high-tech armoured vehicle which everybody and their mother knows about and which despite being set up as a super cool cutting edge prototype fails to reappear later in the series. Not that it's the only thing that is introduced to be forgotten about (special ammo). Chekov would cry. Also on a very small island nation, people escape in a quite big airship and aren't noticed by anybody despite throughout search.

    Also, yes Toradora is meh (and only because the director is competent, novels are just bad). It's based largely in two running jokes (he looks like a delinquent but is actually nice, she is crazy tsundere), has tsundere as a main girl and its just flat characters in a predictably executed love polygon.

    KokoroCo, on the other hand, had a good core idea. But then the same core premise was repeated, and then it was repeated again. Except the premise forces chara development on the whole cast each time, but the author ran out of ideas for chara development. Additionally, characters don't put any effort in figuring out whys and hows of their situation despite the degree to which it affects their life.
     
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    So I finished watching A Silent Voice (Koe no Katachi).

    I think I was a little disappointed by it. From the reviews, I expected something on the level of Your Name, but it simply didn't deliver on the same level.

    There was a lot of heavy stuff in the premise, and while I wasn't bullied I certainly wasn't untouched by bullying and ostracization and all the other childhood cruelties that plague us. I'd gone in expecting to be hit with a lot of emotions, but came out just feeling disappointed.

    The premise had a lot of promise, a lot of directions it could go. But by the end of the movie I'd... felt cheated. Or something. It was like I'd been promised a grand exploration of human morality and companionship and forgiveness and I got... maybe half of that? I got Shoya's story, how he found his redemption and forgiveness (sort of). But... Shoko still hates herself, and given the mentality that she's had since middle school I'd not be surprised if her mindset that she's hurting Shoya still doesn't change by the end of the movie. We get nothing of her thoughts; given the fact that there was narration in the film of character thoughts, I was rather annoyed that out of all the characters the only one we can't fully connect with is the deaf girl.

    You could argue that that's the point of "A Silent Voice" as the title, but at the same time the movie could have been so much deeper with Shoko being an Actual Character instead of The Object of Redemption and Romance for the male lead.

    Which, can we talk about how poorly executed the romance was?

    Or not.

    At any rate, good, not great.
     
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    5 cm/second killed me and I never want to live again.
     
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    How do you survive fanfiction if one bad anime movie kills you?
     
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    How do you live on nothing but salt and spite?
     
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