I was reading the Crossover failure thread by sephiroththebrokenangel, and I couldn't help but wonder just what the members of this forum could come up with as solutions to this cliche and possibly others. For those of you who haven't yet looked at the thread in question here is a quote from the first post.

Now what I'm hoping to see here is a series or universe to crossover with and an idea of how to add Harry into that universe or bring that universe into Harry's life. Below is kind of what I have in mind.

Having recently seen the movie Stardust I can very easily see Harry's family taking on a vacation to the village of Wall to visit one of Vernon's realities while there Dudley starts a game of Harry hunting to pass the time chasing Harry right past the sleeping guard and into the world of Stronghold. Dudley would probably flee when he saw the Market at the Walls oddities while Harry would likely be enchanted.

Now while this does have a kind of portal at the beginning of the story it still only draws on Canon material from both worlds, and not random magical phenomenon.

I know from my shitty title most of the people I would want to look at this thread will skip it.

 

What works best is if you can smoothly transition between the two universes. For instance, in my 40K xover, I've written it that one universe follows on and is a direct result of the other. That obviously is only possible because of immense time differences, but its still a smooth transition. Portals are abrupt and not good IMO.

A possible original one would be the Sacred Texts trilogy. An original start would be for a time turner to go wonky and rather than go back a thousand years, he goes side ways a thousand realities.

 

I have had this one for about a year but I figured not enough people have read it to get an audience, but might as well put it down here.

It would be a crossover with K.A. Applegate's Everworld

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everworld

There is the wiki for it, its ok to get a general feel for the series but if anyone would be actually interested in doing this cross, I would suggest borrow the series from a library, the average reader here could read it within a weekend.

My idea centers around Senna. Senna is a blonde witch whose primary ability is to bewitch boys just by being seen. An ability that her mother shares. It is entirely believable that Senna has some Veela blood in her and that the two Worlds could coexist.

The only type of magic that Senna used outside of her Veela Charm was to change her voice to sound like Gollum to scare April when they were kids. This could be chalked up to accidental magic considering her resentment towards April at the time.

The reason that she is not formally trained as a witch or knew about the Wizarding World could be because of her flake of a mother and the prejudices toward mixed breeds by the American Ministry.

There are some magical creatures in Everworld, the pocket demension, that are present in Harry Potter, but they are nothing alike. This can be explained by something that was mentioned a few times in Everworld.

In Everworld, both Sir Perceval and Sir Galahad remember being the one to retrieve the Holy Grail which Galahad professed did not make sense. Those familar with Arthurian legend know that Perceval was originally the one who found the Grail but later writers changed it to Galahad because he is Christian while Perceval was too pagan.

Another moment is when it is pointed out that the gods are mere archetypes based on the myths and even if they realize this limitation like Athena apparently does, they can do nothing about it, even if it leads them to their destruction.

Applegate had dropped various other hints that the memories and personalities of the inhabitants of Everworld are subject to the stories, myths, and beliefs about them. If this is the case it is not unreasonable that the entire existence of a being, whether it had truly existed or not, could be altered by the collective whim of the muggles' imagination. So there may have been an actual Merlin, or actual dragons, fairies, centuars, and so forth. But the creatures in Everworld do not need to match reality.

So that is my justification for having Everworld's Chicago and Harry's England exist in the same reality. Now for the actual cross.

In the series, Senna eventually decides she wants an army to take over Everworld and she uses Neo Nazis. However, what if at this time she discovers the wizarding world by finding Chicago's version of Diagon Alley or what have you. She would find this magic far more useful, for herself since she would be able to use this flexible magic but also to recruit some wizards to do her bidding.

This is a sudden decision, so she does not have time to check out the locals and feel out who would be the best choice. She would only have some basic criteria. They would have to be male so she can lead them by their libido. They would have to be young so they would not be as wise to her tricks and not question why they are so hot over a young woman. Finally, it would be nice if they could fight.

It would so happen that the break in at the DoM had occured and like major news about Britain and the Royal Family is reported in the America muggle news. News about Harry and the return of Voldemort is reported in the American wizarding news. Senna reads about three young wizards who could hold their own against a Dark Lord's followers and she knows where to start.

On the train when the girls leave so the boys can change out of their robes she can open a portal and pull them in. There she can play the part of the damsel of distress while using her Veela Charm on them.

From there on out it would be up to the author but I will make a few suggestions.

Senna would be working on making them her army. So she would have to turn them from a reactive to a preemptive strike kind of mentality. Probably by suggesting that the only way to protect her is to defeat those who are after her.

She would also want them to be continually learning more destructive spells both to learn herself and also to make them more effective. Not only that but she would also want them to find more people to join her army.

Therefore, having them straddle both worlds like in the series would be a good idea.

Naturally you would want Harry to escape here wiles eventually but I would say that Ron would not be able to do the same. He is notoriously weak against the Veela and Senna actually becomes more powerful while in Everworld including her Charm. (This would also include all of their magic.)
So it would be even harder for him and she can easily prey upon his jealousy and insecurities as well. So if Harry goes against her, Ron would also be against Harry, at least for the majority of the story. Neville could go either way depending on how much the Charm affects him, I don't remember any canon information about that.

That is about it I guess.

 

The easiest and simplest non-lame crossover method is just have both of them be in the same universe. Don't need a portal or dimension travel or alternate realities if both could theoretical co-exist without being mentioned in each other's canon.

 

To crossover with something spacey you could make Harry get a job with NASA, and then when he goes into space, because clearly he would be an astronaut, he could get zapped with radiation and BAM. crossover with fantastic 4.

I shouldn't try these things. I have the worst ideas ever.

 

Lol. Yeah, that really was quite awful. Repped for the amusing thoughts, though.

 

I could probably come up with some worse ideas.

for example:

Harry was on holiday in Hawaii after defeating voldemort because he wanted a break from the world or something. Because the flight back would be fucking massive he has multiple connections, so the first of his many plane journeys goes from Hawaii to Los Angeles, then suddenly BAM! a crossover with snakes on a plane.

 

Damn, you're good at this. That's so ridiculous it's funny. Your ideas are amusing enough that they deserve a thread of their own.

 

And then the plane crashes... and it just happens to be the island where "Lost" takes place. Harry helps the Others but can apparate to islands in the distance. First apparation and he ends up with Tom Hanks and Wilson as Castaways. Wilson, would naturally, like Harry better. Next jump takes him to Gilligan's Island where he could magic the boat fixed. Unfortunately right after Harry leaves the skipper steers over rocks, thus ruining the boat once more. Next Harry lands in the midst of pre-teen boys killing each other and fighting like savages with good old Ralph and Jack barbecuing Piggy for all his tasty meat.

Goodness, you can just keep crossing over forever. It's only worlds where you have the ultimate heroes, ultimate dangers, ultimate near apocalypses that you can't have two greatest heroes in the world. Or most dangerous villains in the world. Or more often, two different ideas of magic and supernatural powers.

Most of the time they are incompatible (i.e. the magic of Dresden meets the magic of Potter) so you end having to bend the rules of at least one, if not preferably both a little bit.

Separating the two worlds into their own places (using a portal to move one into the other) allows both to be the bestest heroes, have the most harrowing dangers, and most powerful villains without bending their history at all. Sometimes separating them into two unrelated worlds is better than how bastardized you'd have to make both worlds for them to be one and the same.

It'll always feel like a cheap gimmicky escape route. But sometimes that's better than the idea that Willow Rosenberg can blink and completely subdue Dumbledore instantly. Or a random DragonBallZ thing is one hundred million times stronger than the most powerful curse in Voldemort's arsenal.

There will be those angry you bastardized something's history, there will be those uninterested because apparition in middle earth makes getting the ring to mordor a bit too easy, and there will be those annoyed that you used a portal rather than tried to unite the two universes.

When it takes place on Earth, I'd rather see the effort put in to unite the universes though. If it's Middle Earth, a galaxy far, far away, centuries into the past or future, then a portal-like gimmick is kind of required.

(I have no idea what I was saying here. On an unrelated note, drugs are bad for you.)

 

I reckon i could get Harry Potter to crossover smoothly with almost anything.

Anyone name something, and if i even have a remote clue what happens in it i will get Harry Potter to cross with it without the use of portals.

 

[EVA-fan mode on] Try to make an crossover between Harry Potter and Evangelion, without sending Harry through portal (to keep the linear timeline), at age 14, to Tokyo-3, to pilot an EVA (well, it would be interesting, but come on).[EVA-fan mode off]

The most easy crossover is an cross with the Cthulhu Mythos. Just throw some "old, eldritch, blasphemous book of knowledge" and name it "Necronomicon, written by Abdul Al-Hazred".
Or just have some random cultist scream: "Cthulhu sleeps in his city of R'lyeh!". And you don't have to care. But the story should end somehow, like this:
"We are screwed. The stars are right. Goodbye, cruel world" [puts his wand to his head] "Avada Kedavra".

 

As much as I didn't like the game and all the various launch issues it has I think a Harry Potter Bioshock crossover would be interesting and original its easily done if Harry just replaces Jack as the main Character. I think this idea is more of a fusion then a crossover though.

 

I would work out how to cross Harry Potter and Evangelion, except i ahve no fucking clue what evangelion is, and have no desire to find out, so wouldn't have the faintest idea about how to make the two universes cross.

 

What about one for Gears of War? Emergence Day simply takes place, and chaos reigns.

 

Gears of War is set on the planet Sera.

Greengun: have you actually played Bioshock all the way through? There are all sorts of reasons why that wouldn't work, none of which I'll reveal for those that aren't even past Arcadia yet. I'm talking to you, Vash.

 

Now that I can do.


An independent Harry fic, Harry, being independent, doesn't care what anyone thinks of him, so at night he uses Dudleys computer to go on chat rooms. On said chat rooms he meets a dirty old man pretending to be a rich girl his age who offers to fly him out to wherever she is so they can meet up.
Because Harry no longer cares what people think of him he takes up the offer, and gets kidnapped by an old man, who happens to be the crazy old war veteran type. This war vet has a collection of tanks, including one obscure one with an upwards pointing barrel. Harry, not caring what anyone thinks of him, decides that he doesn't care that he got tricked into meeting up with a dirty old man, he will enjoy his time way from home.
Then suddenly, BAM! Loads of lines of aliens are attacking the earth right above the war vets house, so they both jump into the upwards pointing tank and start shooting them.

Harry Potter/Space Invaders cross over.

 

That was great.

Harry Potter/CSI New York/Miss. Congeniality

 

Harry Potter/CSI New york is just too easy. However i have no clue what happens in miss congeniality so i cant add that in.

Harry is wondering around the park in Little Whinging when he get sucker punched and knocked out. He then gets shoved into a container ship and shipped to new york without any food or water, and as a result he dies in the container. In New York he gets discovered and the CSI New York team investigate.


Fuck it, i am bored, i am going to write a Harry Potter/Space Invaders crossover fic.

 

I've played all the way threw the game and that's what I'm talking about.

Spoilers :

Spoiler

All of Harry's magic is actually plasmids, his memories of Hogwarts and his life in general are fake. The funny thing is that could explain the various plot holes in the book series and why cannon Harry knows so few spells.

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The only thing that bugs me about this is its more of a fusion than a crossover.