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Plot Bunny Threa(t/d) III

Discussion in 'Fanfic Discussion' started by Dark Minion, Feb 14, 2012.

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  1. Portus

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    Feel free; this is the Plot Bunny thread after all, where plot bunnies and ideas go for adoption.


    And if Dwarf!Harry goes well (or doesn't, whatever) the next thing should be Down's Syndrome Harry. We'll show these blind!Harry, deaf!Harry candy-asses what are REAL "differently-abled" Harry is...
     
  2. Knyght

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    Now we're talking. ;)
     
  3. Jormungandr

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    It'd be ironic if pure-bloods somehow saw that being a dwarf (condition) automatically made you the 'crem-da-le-creme' of social/blood rankings.
     
  4. ShadoWolph

    ShadoWolph First Year DLP Supporter

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    @Jorm

    Not quite sure how that would work, but it's an idea. If I thought I could pull it off, I would, just because the image of Lucius carrying Harry down Diagon on his shoulders like some pack animal is so entertaining.
     
  5. Mutton

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    Having had a friend back in high school with Torettes (who of course used it as an excuse to get away with cursing loudly whenever he wanted)
    "Dammit Hermione, I'm trying! Wingardiumfuckyourmother Leviosa"

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    A thought I had while perusing the library

    There are quite a few "Riddle redemption" fics about Dumbledore taking an actual interest in him as a child. But why does this have to lead to a good Tom Riddle? Learning under a man who ascends from great to legendary would arguably do more to fuel a need for power. Hell, Dumbledore has his current political might much due to his power as a wizard; you can't appeal to the better nature of everyone. No, it was his triumph over Grindelwald that showed him to be the mightest man around. So wouldn't the student have a deep seated urge to surpass that?

    Basically, the story would take the idea that Riddle starts off as a flawed human; the orphanage was not kind to him. He just got really good at hiding it. Toss in working under the greatest mage of their time and you get a good basis for gaining power, both magically and politically (and we know that while Dumbledore is all about working with someone's better nature, Riddle is excellent at appealing to their worst aspects).

    It would chronicle Riddle from orphanage through Hogwarts and into WWII. It's just a basic idea at this point though, needs more work
     
  6. Portus

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    I like the idea, especially if Dumbledore were to have to fight that feeling he had when he and Gellert plotted to rule the Muggles, that old urge to bend the world to his will. Canon-Dumbledore may have mastered his ambitions, but he was never modest when talking of his skill and prowess. He didn't flaunt it but he and everyone else knew he was a wellspring of whoop-ass just waiting to be let of the tether.

    Now imagine he meets an ambitious, charismatic prodigy named Tom Riddle and this boy isn't the transparent sociopath we saw in HBP. This Tom is polite and eager but not openly hostile, and the nostalgic Dumbledore sees a little of himself in the boy. They begin a mentor-student relationship that brings out the best - and worst - in both of them, and next thing you know, The Greater Good just got a little Greater.

    It would sort of be the antithesis of By the Divining Light.

    It would chronicle Riddle from orphanage through Hogwarts and into WWII. It's just a basic idea at this point though, needs more work[/QUOTE]

    You'll have to adjust canon, 'cause Riddle doesn't graduate Hogwarts until I believe 1945. I could be wrong, but nonetheless, the war is about over by the time canon-Riddle would be in the thick of it, barring his leaving school early to go and fight, a la Harry in DH.
     
  7. Mutton

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    Well, the idea is that Riddle is training under Dumbledore, so he's ahead of the rest of his class anyways; he'd leave with Dumbledore under the pretense that while he may not have more to learn here, it is his job to make sure there's a Hogwarts for everyone else to return to, fight to protect their way of life or something along those lines. Appeal to Dumbledore's version of the Greater Good being self-sacrifice. Riddle really is out to make connections and gain a name for himself however; he's still extremely power hungry. I do want to explain his "fear of death" in the story being more as part of his want to be stronger and more in control; you can't utilize your power if you're dead.

    There would definitely be some back and forth in terms of characters influencing each other, as I believe any good story should have. I would hope to come out with a Riddle that is less sociopathic and more conniving, while Dumbledore ends up falling just a little bit. I haven't really done anything outside of a basic mental roadmap though; ideas on what happens with their first meeting, some ideas of Hogwarts, how they end up going to war, and the showdown with Grindelwald.

    Part of the idea comes from playing some Professor Layton and mentally substituting Dumbledore and Riddle in for Layton and Luke though, which I hope isn't one of the oddest ways a bunny was spawned. Would be much easier to solve puzzles if you could just blast them with a bolt of magic though
     
  8. Infidel

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    Kwan li came out with a great idea, and then screwed it up in this story. In the story, Tom Riddle manages to take the position of headmaster from Dumbledore when he comes for the position of DADA professor.

    I think it could be done well. Imagine Dumbledore granting the budding Dark Lord the job in an effort to redeem him and keep a close watch on him. I'm sure the interaction between them could be written very well.
     
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    Look at the times of this^ post and this one.
    How the fuck?
     
  10. Nauro

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    Still can't decide if the fact that you noticed that makes you awesome or a potential mental patient.

    Probably both, though.
     
  11. Bill Door

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    Awesome, definitely awesome... at least that's what the voices tell me.
     
  12. Lion

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    Canon diverges when Voldemort decides that the path to power is to be found in ancient magic all around the world. He hides his horcruxes in magically powerful places, over Ley Lines, and ties them together so that each horcrux can defend itself using the magic found at each place. When he returns to England and goes about his conquest and is eventually defeated by Harry. Harry has a canon first year, when Voldemort tries to take the stone, but canon diverges again when Dumbledore decides that Harry will need to start training now to fight Voldemort's eventual return. Second has no diary as Voldemorts only horcrux in England is under Stonehenge. Voldemort rises again in Harry's fourth year and immediately start's terrorizing the public again. He manages to kill Dumbledore in Harry's sixth year, but not before Harry learns how and where Voldemort hid his horcruxes.

    I wanted to tell most of that in flashbacks between Harry finding and destroying the various Horcruxes, sometimes with the help of different contacts Dumbledore had, and traveling across the world learning magic to win the final battle. Eventually after he has destroyed the six hidden across the world Harry returns to England and goes to Stonehenge to destroy the last of Voldemorts horcruxes, but Voldemort appears calling him an ignorant fool who does not realize what he has done. Harry only laughs and destroys the last of the Horcruxes telling Voldemort he has stopped the greatest Dark Lord in a century. Voldemort only chuckles and says that he has traded one evil for something far worse. While Voldemort was traveling around the world he had run into agents of an organization that was working for the greater good of magic to return Merlin to life. Only it was a Merlin who was totally different than what history says, he was a conquer and dictator ruling the wizards of Europe with an iron fist. When Merlin finally overstepped his bounds mages, warlocks, shamans, and everything under the sun combined to split his soul and lock him away in seven different places. Voldemort was using his soul to strengthen the sites because they had been weakened by Merlin's followers. Dumbledore was a member of the Greater Good of Magic and taught Harry specifically to unlock the sites. So when Harry had unknowingly destroyed all of the defenses in his search for the Horcruxes and by destroying the site under Stonehenge he had released Merlin who was poised to rule for another thousand years. All in the name of the Greater Good of Magic.

    Right now the idea is just rambling out of my head, but I was thinking of having the first book be in 7 chapters, one for each site, and then the second one in 8, one to lock each site and then fight Merlin. Of course the second book would have Voldemort and Harry having to work together to stop it fighting famous Wizards who were really working for Merlin, or were just another name for Merlin, to do it.
     
  13. Skeletaure

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    You'd think if Voldemort truly wanted to defend his horcruxes and keep Merlin at bay, he'd tell Harry this before the last horcrux was destroyed, not after. That's a pretty expensive "I don't you so".
     
  14. Lion

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    I was thinking it was more of Voldemort not getting there until Harry was pretty much done. He was only there because he could feel the last of the magic falling from Hogwarts, or the ministry, and went to see what could cause a big enough commotion for him to feel.
     
  15. El Duderino

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    I'd read the shit out of that, plot holes or not. I'm not going to lie, it sounds like it could be freaking awesome, provided it doesn't turn into a cliché fic, with standard rubbish things happening.
     
  16. Thaumologist

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    Actually, you don't really need to have Voldemort already know about Merlin's reasting places thingys. If he searched for the most secure places/most reinforcible places it would be likely he'd find the same places as the Merlin dismemberers did. Co-incidences might seem silly, but it does make a sort of sense.
     
  17. Alive and Free

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    When I read the bit about Merlin I got the idea of Merlin Satanspawn from Green's Nightside series, a very bad dude if you've haven't read the books. My guess is you'd have him be more of an ancient Grindelwald, right?
     
  18. Lion

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    Thanks man. I'm trying to steer clear of most of the cliches, like a non sensible Voldemort, or a passive Dumbledore.


    That would be covered in the sequel, because Voldemort would have flashbacks to how he originally got involved in stopping them and how Harry's actions have made it harder to fix.

    I haven't read the series, but I imagined Merlin as a mix of Dumbledore, Voldemort, and Grindelwald. He believes that what he is doing is the right thing for all magic users. Giving some muggles magical weapons so they can kill the others for him is something he'd totally do, and did do when he decided to give the Mongols a little push, but it was things like that that lead to him being sealed away by the community outside Europe. Also expect him to be scary with a wand, and horrifying if he gets his staff.
     
  19. William Shadowruby

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    Hacker!harry

    Indoctrinated with the belief of every system should be open broken down and free to alter Harry goes on a OCD quest to optimize the wizarding world as Programmers obsess over code.
     
  20. Another Empty Frame

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    Don't apply your muggle bullshit to the magical world.

    This does sound like a bit of an anarchist/anti hero vibe, and as long as it's not inspired by the greatness of muggles, American wizards, or the mistreatment of Griphook then it might be interesting.

    Oh and Obsessive Compulsive Disorder is pretty harmful in reality, though every third American teenager claims to be afflicted with it as an easy way to get some attention from family/ at school.

    EDIT: Welcome, and your name is gay.
     
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