Good point....im in the middle of writing the prologue right now. If you were Bella or Voldemort would ever tell harry of his true heritage?

 

Why? It's easier to feed him bullshit, and mold him into a perfect, obedient, little psycho follower, that would gladly throw his life away for his master.

 

What then when the cockamamie story fails to live up to closer scrutiny?

 

It might be interesting to see what happens when Voldemort realizes that Harry is a Horcrux (the mental connection, parseltongue).

He would be faced with a dilemma. Kill the boy and forget the Horcrux, or keep the boy and therefore himself alive?


EDIT: Also, just because Bella is forbidden from harming or killing Harry, does not mean she'll be a loving mother. I mean, imagine being raised by Bellatrix Lestrange and Lord Voldemort. You'd grow up to be satan.

 

Maybe it would be more interesting if they told him who he was, but fed him bullshit about his parents. I mean...if you raise a child since birth (Well...one year old in this case) you could probably get him to believe most anything you wanted him to about people you never really knew if he comes to trust you.

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Very true. But them again Bellatrix is very vain, possessive, and proud of her heritage. If they decided to say he was the son regulus (as I did in another story with an entirely different plot), perhaps some sense of twisted maternity could surface in her? Maybe not...

 

Did anyone ever write the Reverse Harry Potter series that was talked about in this thread a few weeks ago?

 

How about we do something completely unexpected and have Voldemort and Bellatrix tell Harry the truth about his heritage and Harry straight up not caring? Otherwise it seems like it would go the way of all the other raised by Voldemort fics where Harry finds out the truth, switches sides, and hooks up with Ginny Weasley.

 

Almost done with the prologue...will be posting later tonight I think..

Yea I like that but the question is, is it believable? The only way it is, for me, is if Dumbledore and others are blamed for brainwashing his parents and Harry can somehow be convinced that A...Voldemort's cause is for the greater good....B...they tried to persaude the potters, they didnt want to kill them (precious magical/ancient blood and all that).

Otherwise, it doesn't matter if Harry never knew them. He wouldn't side with the man who killed his parents.

 

If we're having Harry be raised by Bella and Voldemort and believing their cause and ideals then it makes sense to me to have him accept Voldemort's reasoning for killing the Potters and be grateful that he wasn't raised by blood traitors and raised to be a muggle-lover.

I'd have Voldemort be smart enough to know that lying could come back to bite him in the ass sometime down the line. Which is exactly what happens in every other story I've read where Harry is raised by Voldemort.

Also, I think Voldemort would find it amusing to use nothing but truth and honesty to secure Harry's loyalty.

EDIT: But if you are writing this story, do it however you want.

 

The major problem I see with this is, how would he believably turn against Voldemort then? I don't see a way for him to turn good if he accepts Voldemort's explanation.

 

Ginny of course. True love conquers all evil.

 

I don't know I'm going to post in like 30 minutes or so and if Harry turns against Voldemort I'll figure it out then. I'm more of a gardener than a architect....though I'm sure it doesn't seem that way.

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actually lets make that tomorrow...too tired to finish tonight

 

Maybe he comes to disagree with Voldemort's methods or other politics? You can still have Harry and Voldemort as adversaries without making him "good."

 

I am lurking around here for months and think it is time for my first post. If my english sucks, I am truly sorry. If it doesn't, well then I am not.

Why not have him be raised with their ideals and their hatred and then going from there. A Harry Potter story doesn´t find it´s conclusion until he kills Voldemort or vice versa. But let Voldemort feed him lies only brings us to that one point, where Harry is been told the "truth" and he turns into the white knight on the unicorn that allows him to ride it because he is such a wonderfull person at heart. Doesn´t matter how many he has killed before that.

So why not let him be the pureblood-nazi? He believes it with all of his heart and then goes to Hogwarts. No cliché. He sees the muggleborn and still holds true to "his" ideals, because he was raised by fucking Voldemort and Bellatrix. He can use that motherfucking wand to do things, that the other children have never seen before. So he stays the little nazi, because he doesn´t care about anyone at all. Maybe go one step further. He befriends one of the Muggleborn early in school, maybe Hermione? (Don´t see that really. She wasnt that nice a person)
Then he is told by her, that she is muggleborn.. and peng he never looks at her again.

But because we need that conclusion. Let Harry be older. Be more of a men and skilled. He is still at Hogwarts and comes home for the summer to have Voldermort send him to his first real Muggle-Hunt. He has seen them before torturing them, killing them and humialiting them, fuck HE has killed and tortured them before. But they were no humans for him. Let him see how the Muggle would live, if they wouldn´t kill them. A breakfasting family, a little boy on his way to school, a man helping an old lady across the street, a laughing pair, a woman jogging. Doing normal stuff. Crack, crack, crack. His worldview splinters a little. Maybe one of them talks to him for a little while. Because that is how this is done.

There shouldnt be a "No-This-Is-So-Wrong-I-Will-Kill-Voldermort!"-Moment. He still has to kill them all. Has to torture them and let them be humilated by the other Deatheater. This would be his first step to redemption. And at the end of the story we would have a No-Pussy, badass, Ex-Nazi, Voldemort-Slayer Harry fucking Potter. Maybe he still kills Dumbledore. Why the fuck not. Let him kill everyone, even the unicorns, Ginny Weasley and everyone who wants to soulbound him. Give him the iron throne and Dragons. Everyone loves dragons.

 

I was going to facepalm until I read this

 

This is a brilliant idea! I mean, why hasn't this been done before?

 

Just have Harry turn against Voldemort because Voldemort is a filthy half-blood born of a near squib and a muggle.

Anyway, why the fuck will Voldemort keep Harry alive when he knows the prophecy.

 

I'm going to post what I have in about thirty minutes or so.

I think Voldemort would keep him alive for two reasons.

1) He would keep him alive if he knew that Harry was indeed a horcurx, for obvious reasons. The question there....would he tell anyone that Harry is a horcrux? Even Bellatrix or Lucius?

2) If Harry is gifted, can speak parseltounge, and can be persuaded to his cause... it's not out of the question that Voldemort would want to rewrite the prophecy and to use Harry later on (particularly at Hogwarts). Being Voldemort, I'm sure he thinks he is capable of almost anything.

I think the first reason is more practical, but I don't believe the second is totally out of the realm of possiblity with Voldemort.

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Just posted the prologue to the story, titled "Slytherin's Resurgence"

 

Plot Bunnies

1: After the War

In the wake of Voldemort’s destruction, Britain is laid to waste. Voldemort’s time as ruler had destabilized the ministry in exchange for his complete control. His death has led to a power vacuum. Dozens of would-be Dark Lords and sinister creatures are gunning for his place. The forces Voldemort had amassed run amuck amongst the streets in flagrant violation of the Statute. Trolls, vampires, and demons have free reign. At the center of dystopic London, Harry Potter struggles to pick up the pieces.

2: Sins of the Father (OC)

Gilderoy Lockhart’s legacy was in his cavorting with women, his raucous drinking, and his supposed mastery over and combat with all that is Dark in magic. Gavin Lockhart, bastard and prodigy in Charms, had grown up listening to his mother’s tales of his gallant and powerful father. Fresh after his graduation from Spellwicks, his mother dies. In an attempt at closure, Gavin looks to find Gilderoy Lockhart, celebrated author and member of the Dark Force Defence League. He starts with an old book with an inscription to his mother, Break with a Banshee. His journey begins at Albania, the hub of all the darkest most dangerous creatures to retrace his father’s footsteps and become the wizard Lockhart had always claimed to be.

This would feature several accounts of magical creatures. Encounters with nundus, chimeras, and manticores. Father-son angst and resolution. I think the great thing about this is how Gavin will try to connect with his father by doing all these adventurous and exciting things Gilderoy never did and then coming to terms with all the illusions he built about his dad. I see the ending being about how he realizes he was kicking ass as an adventurer on his own.

On PB1, it never made sense to me that everything was fine after the War. Beating the one guy doesn't mean everything is over. I want to see Harry become the dark wizard catcher and equal to Voldemort on his own steam.

PB2, I thought it'd be cool if someone actually tried doing what Lockhart did. He was basically supposed to be Lawrence of Arabia, Henry M. Stanley, and Allan Quartermain rolled into one. There's also the added drama of finding out that his dad was a fake and also senile.

 

It's funny you mention that Lockhart idea. For ages, I've been slowly working away at this Lockhart-centric plot bunny...

During the second rise of Lord Voldemort, one man searches for identity in a lonely ward in Saint Mungo's. Desperate to know who he is, he stumbles upon a set of autobiographical books... his books.

As Gilderoy Lockhart slowly pieces together his shattered psyche, he models himself after the man in the books -- the consummate hero. He never doubts that he can do it. After all, he's already done it once.

Hasn't he?

My general idea was that at some point near the end of HBP, Lockhart discovers a book called Magical Me and reads it in secret, becoming convinced that the book is entirely true and that he's this gallant and noble hero. When Dumbledore dies, he escapes Saint Mungo's, reasoning that surely Voldemort will have him hunted down and killed since he's such a great man. Somewhere along the way, he acquires the rest of his books and begins to play the part of the hero to its utmost. I think this part could probably have a good bit of comedic value, too -- Lockhart trying to use spells to save people and being confused when he's not the virtuoso he thinks he should be, etc.

Eventually, whilst performing some heroic deed, Lockhart's path would cross with that of Harry, Ron, and Hermione, likely at a point when they were feeling their lowest. Initially they don't tell him the truth of himself, but at some point -- perhaps this is after the death of Dobby? -- Lockhart tries to dispense some advice to Harry using an event from one of his books as an example, and Harry blows up on him, telling him just what a sham he'd been and just how he'd lost his memory.

This of course would be a huge shock for Lockhart as it destroys all that he's been building his life on. He has to learn that, as Dumbledore would say, it's his choices that define who he is. He'd probably go through some ultimate battle of the self where he struggles to define himself, and then likely there would be a catalyst to show him that he can be the man he wants to be if he chooses to(Battle of Hogwarts, maybe?).

Then you could end the story in one of two ways:

The happy and awesome ending, where he lives, becomes an adventurer, keeps publishing Lockhart books, and the story probably closes off with him running from a mummy in an abandoned Egyptian tomb.

Or the sad and poignant ending, where he epitomizes his desire to be a hero by performing some act of selflessness to define his 'new' self that old Lockhart never would have done, such as dying while fighting in the Battle of Hogwarts(after taking down a tremendous amount of Death Eaters, no doubt).

I'm a fan of the happier path myself, because I didn't want the story to really get bogged down in the dark and depressing; at its heart, I feel like it could be sort of reminiscent of a Disney movie: light and funny for the most part, but with some sections that (hopefully) tug on the ole heartstrings.