Regarding the date for Tangled, I found it on Tumblr here.

Supposedly it is 'confirmed by directors'. Sure, it may not be actually true, since I'm not seeing any evidence of said 'confirmation', but that's where I found it.

Regarding Tangled/Frozen connection, it is supported by the fact that Rapunzel and Flynn have a cameo during Elsa's coronation. Since Rapunzel no longer has her long hair in said cameo, it clearly takes place after the events of Tangled.

The director of Tangled was surprised by this, but supported the decision.

Canonically, Tangled happens in Germany while Frozen takes place in Norway (though obviously the kingdoms of Corona and Arendelle are fictional).

So, Durmstrang?

Nah, Hogwarts is better :awesome

 

Would Durmstrang welcome Muggleborns (which presumably Elsa would be) in the 1800s if they don't in the late 1900s?

And, yeah, Hogwarts is better.

 

Probably not.

 

Hehe. Would a H/Bellatrix pairing be too meta for such a story?

IIRC, Embargo—o by BK11 had Harry getting involved in a fight club... and Pansy. That one, along with the author's other H/Pansy story were deleted from FFN a long time ago (seemingly to be replaced by Dramione fics).

Dementors.
What's keeping your prisoners penned up like veal calves, compared to that level of cruelty?
Still, fan fic authors have given Azkaban far stranger policies than occasionally letting the inmates out of their cells.

 

I couldn't do it justice.

 

Worm doesn't really mix well with settings that already have powerful magic included. That's why I want to see a Song of Ice and Fire crossover. Imagine Mad King Aerys if he had pyrokinesis, or the Mountain That Rides with Alexandria's powers. Shit. Would. Be. Fucked. Bro.

EDIT: DIREWOLVES + BITCH'S POWERS = AWESOME.

 

The only issue is that when do you have the powers show up? If they were always there or there for any significant length of time their entire culture would be different. Some of the powers involved are way too OP for things to be even remotely similar to canon. Wars would be entirely different, Dragons would be nowhere near the game changer they are in canon, plus the power dynamic between men and women would be superseded by that between Parahumans and regular humans.

 

Error of Soul

 

His Dark Materials/HP fusion, apocalypse fic sorta inspired by Dementor's Stigma and 30 Days Later.

Instead of Specters from HDM we have Dementors, who've bred out of control during Voldemort's first rise to power. Magical children, from a combination of accidental magic and sheer desperation, are able to cast a permanent form of the Patronus to protect them from the Dementors. This reveals them to the Muggles, who attribute the mass deaths to a mysterious and incurable outbreak. They notice that families with Muggleborn children (whether or not these children are explained to have magic is undecided) possessing these Patroni familiars don't die. These children are either revered as gods or kidnapped for their abilities. Cue exploitation from either side.

Meanwhile, the Muggles have had no help from the Wizarding side of society, who are struggling themselves to deal with the overwhelming numbers of Dementors in Britain. Because the situation is so out of control, Britain has been utterly cut off from the rest of the world, leaving all of its inhabitants to fend for themselves. Wizarding society becomes more centralized to those areas with protections against Dark creatures but after a few years (let's say this all starts in the 80s?) these protections have been failing. For some reason (??) these protections can't be renewed, not many individual adult wizards and witches have the ability to cast a Patronus and soon everyone can see that eventually, there will be only 2 areas of safety left: Hogwarts and Gringotts. With Gringotts there is interspecies conflict. With Hogwarts there is overcrowding and politics. Current politics has one major issue under contention: what to do with the Muggleborn children. Cue factions and blood prejudices and Statute of Secrecy.

Finally, enter Harry. Events have so radically changed that Trelawney either never tells the prophecy or Voldemort (who's still alive!) never hears of it. He survives with his parents at Godric's Hollow for the first 7 years of his life in relative safety. Godric's Hollow is one of the few communities in Britain with peaceful relations between the wizarding and muggle families living there, and they cooperate successfully in order to survive. However, rumors of their prosperity get out, and a murderous band of Muggles attacks Godric's Hollow. Harry sees his parents die, but isn't detected by their killers because of his father's Invisibility Cloak. When these Muggles leave he is left to fend for himself. He becomes skilled at using his wandless magic (or maybe he takes his parents' wands? has one of his own?) to survive. His character arc would involve letting go of his anger over his parents' violent deaths and learning how to trust others...something to that effect. Along the way he picks up other kids (OCs...maybe he rescues Hermione? Or Neville?).

When Harry turns 11, roughly 5-10 years after the Dementors have arisen and things have become truly desperate for everyone in Britain, a new prophecy is told. Only the Master of Death can quell the Dementors and bring Britain into a new era of peace or destruction. The contenders for this title are Harry, Dumbledore, and Voldemort, though only Harry is unaware of the prophecy. The workings of fate begin to draw them closer together....

 

Hmm, I suppose muggle-repelling charms are non-existent in this world? I mean, that's one surefire way of protecting wizards and witches from mad muggles out on raids or in general.

And adult wizards/witches dying to muggles just seems so fucking odd.

 

1) Presence of Dementors makes performing magic difficult. Only the most rudimentary of spells are left to the average adult wizards/witches. Also, Godric's Hallow had both Muggle and wizarding families so...

2) Guns. Though I guess you could argue wands vs guns, by which I refer you again to 1.

 

Maybe at close range, wizards decimate muggles, but trying to aim a spell from a hundred feet can't be easier than aiming a rifle. And not all wizards would be skilled enough to simply perform mass destruction. Some will actually rely on stunners and simple stuff like that.

 

There are plenty of spells that would deal with muggles that don't require any kind of aiming. Plus the fact wizards can easily defend against muggle aggression with a single charm (or no charm at all with the right item) while muggles can't defend against anything a wizard can do. Not to mention the biggest issue is that it would never logically come to a confrontation long range or otherwise. Wizards can just not be seen or heard by muggles. Not even noticed in the first place with a single spell. Not to mention wipe their memories and control their minds, make themselves appear completely different, actually become completely different.

Their advantages are just so massive that to even the playing field you have to remove most or all of their ability to do magic as a society and as individuals. In which case, why even write about Harry Potter? I doubt it's because the character himself is so engaging or interesting. From what I've seen most people writing these AUs change his character pretty heavily anyway.

 

No one in their right mind will argue that the advantages of being a wizard are gigantic, while anything that a muggle can do, a wizard could do as well. But don't discount the muggles as a whole so quickly. If discussing a conflict, you have to take into account several things:

1. there are maybe a few million wizards in canon, there are billions of muggles
2. no going around the fact that most wizards are pretty ignorant about muggle technology and as such, in some cases they simply wouldn't know what to defend against
3. muggles have a huge potential for mass destruction

Yes, wizards are superhumans, but the simple facts that muggles could stick a ballistic rocket (doesn't even have to be nuclear) up their asses and their sheer numbers count for a lot.

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Considering your penchant for noir(ish) setting, you should have written that a long time ago.

 

Except no, no it doesn't. Wizards aren't living in another country that you can bomb. They're living in your cities and your communities, only in their own completely unnoticeable ones. Just like they themselves can become and are. Not to mention they can control the guys who control those rockets and there's nothing you can do about it. Or the guys who tell the guys who control the rockets what to do.

You're acting like these are dimensional travelers with no experience with muggles. They've been living amongst and fooling muggles since they decided to start doing so hundreds of years ago. They've kept the existance and actions of not only themselves but also hundreds of magical species secret from them right under their noses.

To have any actual conflict between muggles and wizards that isn't won by wizards with the muggles no longer even being aware there was any kind of conflict requires taking away almost all the abilities of wizards, in which case you're not writing about wizards, you're writing about two groups of muggles, one of which can do a few parlor tricks or flashy lights at best.

 

A muggles vs wizards debate?

FUCKING NO.

 

It's true that wizards can fuck shit up, but their main strength in this case lies in, as you said, being invisible. But imagine how easily word could get out about magic, given a little bit of chaos. All it takes is for wizards to miss one camera and the muggle media machine will do the rest. The Statue of Secrecy isn't some worldwide spell that makes muggles ignorant to magic. It's a series of precautions. It's a piece of legislation.

Muggles living in the neighborhood - we only know of Diagon Alley in London, one considerable magical district. Then there's Hogwarts, Hogsmeade, the Ministry underground, but most wizards live in separate homes. There are plenty of ways to destroy a single building without having to glass an entire area.

And in the end, bullets are bullets. I don't care how fast a wizard is on the draw, when something is flying at you at 800 meters per second, you will die unless your spell was up before the muggle pulled the trigger and you knew what was coming.

 

[see a wizard vs muggle debate] And aliens have a fucking Death Ray Guns and Kaiju, so they will fuck both sides.