Dumbledore Apparated in the first chapter. Hagrid never finished Hogwarts, so he would never have been able to pass Apparition. I do not think it was ever proven that a Fidelius Charm can be used for an object outside of a location.

However, I do think it would be interesting to see a world with using only the first book's rules. It would be much less defined.

 

Another Goblin Rebellion begins when Harry visits Diagon Alley for the first time. Goblins rebel because they have discovered just what exactly Dumbledore was storing in their bank. The very item they have wished for since it was invented.

Gringotts goes into lockdown and the Goblins refuse to let people inside. Since Harry cannot acquire his money and Hagrid cannot get the Philosopher's Stone, they are forced to travel to Hogwarts and speak with Dumbledore. However, no such task is easy, as Hagrid cannot Apparate and the Goblins have started sending out warriors on the streets.

Aurors and other Ministry wizards arrive on the scene and attempt to counter the attackers. Meanwhile Harry and Hagrid are forced to enter Madam Malkin's to hide from the assault. Here, Harry meets Draco Malfoy. As Hagrid and Madam Malkin defend the boys, Narcissa also arrives in the store. She tells Hagrid that she can safely side-along Apparate the boys to safety, but won't be able to transport the Half-Giant. Hagrid doesn't trust her, but is out of options, as the numbers of Goblins seem to increase with each minute. He reluctantly agrees and Narcissa takes Harry and Draco to Malfoy Manor.

Several minutes after Mrs. Malfoy disappears, Dumbledore arrives in Diagon Alley to personally assist the Ministry. He eventually finds Hagrid and asks about Harry. After learning that Potter is with the Malfoys, the Headmaster immediately travels to their Manor to see if the boy is safe. He is. Lucius greets Albus and all seems to go smoothly. Harry even got a diary as a gift. Dumbledore personally takes Harry to the Dursleys and has some private words with Petunia.

A few days pass and eventually two people arrive at Privet Drive. Kingsley Shacklebolt and Severus Snape. They say that the rebellion is still going on and the ministry has decided to transport students into Hogwarts for safety. Kingsley represents the Ministry while Snape represents the school. Harry is told to pack and soon is side-along Apparated to Hogsmeade. Once in the castle, Harry sees that Ollivander is also present and the boy finally gets a wand.

Since there is still time before the school year, Harry spends time with Draco, the only friend he met at the Diagon Alley Attack. Other times, Harry writes in his new diary, which has this interesting way of replying...

And then some more plot happens which I didn't yet think of.

 

I understand why the Goblins lockdown, but why do they go into the street and begin attacking others. What does it actually gain them?

On the whole though an excellent idea, well done!

 

Well Rebellions generally involve fighting. A show of strength etc. Besides, they have the Stone and Dumbledore knows they have the Stone. The fighting also serves as a distraction while they transport the Stone to a different (more secure) area.

 

But that isn't what happened according to your description. The goblins found out about the philosophers stone, the goblins claimed the philosophers stone, no one knows that they have it, and so they lockdown and begin attacking before they even move it to safety secretly. That's neither smart or intelligent, that is the exact opposite.

And even after they have it safely secured, they still have no reason to attack. I can see them gaining no positional advantage whatsoever, unless you can give me one?

 

Hmm, you're right.

But consider the alternate option:

1.Goblins find out about the stone.
2.Goblins steal the stone.
3.Dumbledore finds out.
4.Dumbledore uses his powers to bitch-slap them into oblivion.
5.They have nothing.

Here, they have hidden the stone, closed the bank and started a phony rebellion just to keep everyone occupied, while a small group moves the stone through the underground to another location (it's Goblins, they know their shit about underground).

This isn't a rebellion with a reason, it is just a way to make noise and make everyone focused on one thing, while in reality the more important thing is ignored.

And Dumbledore can't even make the knowledge of the Stone public, because that'd create another set of problems.

 

The problem is how does Dumbledore find out. While Dumbledore is the most powerful wizard in Britain he can't do whatever he likes, he especially can't do it if he can't provide a reason. Simply look at canon in that regards. The only thing the goblins attacking gains them is it makes the public hate them, and considering they appear to be doing it randomly and when the most children are likely to be affected, it seriously affects their future opportunities.

I still see the best option as shutting down and being on the defence. When people ask about why they can't access their money, they issue a statement:

"Last night a foolish wizard attempted to steal from Gringotts. While his most unfortunate death is proof of the infallibility of the defenses that guard the treasures we possess, our tracks to the vaults were never the less temporarily damaged. To ensure your safety, while we repair them Gringotts is closed."

Then if anyone wishes to attack them, they at least have the advantage.

 

But look at it from Dumbledore's side.

We are told that prior to Quirell doing it, nobody has robbed Gringotts (Harry doesn't count because he has Protagonist Powers). That's a pretty safe bank if you ask me.

Now, Dumbledore put the Philosopher's Stone, an object of infinite worth in that bank. I'm thinking he (being who he is) had a better-protected vault. In fact, I'm certain he did.

So the moment he finds out that the Stone was stolen, what is he going to think? That someone robbed THE Gringotts? No, he is going to suspect very strongly that the Goblins stole the stone from him. They have a motive, a rock that can make gold! And wouldn't it be just like the goblins to try and take down the wizards a few pegs by stealing one of their most precious achievements?

And the excuse you posted wouldn't last long, Dumbledore would find it suspicious that on the day he was scheduled to take the stone away, the bank goes into lockdown.

Besides, it is Dumbledore. He could be standing behind you, invisible, and you wouldn't know.

You DO have a point about the plan of the Goblins being half-baked, but perhaps it was a decision done in the heat of the moment? "Move the stone, create a distraction!" Goblins can make mistakes, right?

 

Instead of a full scale rebellion, it should be a small, disgrunteled bunch of goblins, that tired with the wizards oppresion started their own rebbelion - the Gringotts Goblins do not support this in any form and decree tham as rebels and traitors.

Basicaly, Gringotts sends a bunch of fanatics, that they can disown any knowledge off, to do their dirty work, while they move the Stone to a safer location.

 

Sounds good. I did say it was a phony rebellion. You'll notice that I did not mention any other places being attacked besides Diagon Alley.

Anyway, since I am full of new ideas... New Plot Bunny! :awesome
(yeah, I like writing new worlds, everyone knows this by now)

When Hagrid arrives at Hogwarts with the Stone from Gringotts, he finds out that Dumbledore has died of old age.

Shaken with the revelation and the sad irony of holding the very thing that could have saved the Headmaster, Hagrid falls into a depression and blames himself for being too late. The Stone is still hidden at Hogwarts, but Nicolas Flamel already declares that he will retrieve it since Dumbledore isn't there anymore to keep it safe.

Meanwhile, not everyone is sad at Dumbledore's death. Voldemort decides to act and performs a full possession of Quirell's body, which allows him to move on his own. The reason he did not do so originally, is because such a possession will soon dissolve the possessed body so he has limited time to act.

He storms through the Stone protections, killing Fluffy with the Killing Curse, burning the Devil's Snare with Fiendfyre and so on. The other teachers are of course alerted, but without Dumbledore they are no match for Voldemort. Snape attempts to defend the Stone, but Voldemort reveals himself to the Potions Master and questions his loyalty. Knowing that his position as a spy will be even more important now that Dumbledore is gone, Snape allows Voldemort to take the Stone.

The Dark Lord escapes the school with the Stone and soon uses the Elixir of Life to restore his body to full power. He summons his Death Eaters and they do indeed show up, even including Pettigrew who escapes the Weasleys out of fear.

Meanwhile McGonagall of course informs the ministry that Voldemort has returned and they of course refuse to believe her. Since she has no other options, she reforms the Order of the Phoenix. As the Order has no idea about Horcruxes or any such things, they agree that Harry will be once again paramount in defeating the Dark Lord. As such, he is taken from the Dursleys and put in an advanced learning program, in which all teachers, including Snape, are giving him private lessons. However, without Albus's knowledge, things are starting to look grim. Every day there are attacks and people keep disappearing.

 

Maybe, instead of Voldemort getting a new body, let him fuck up. The Philosophers Stone is a one-in-a-life-time achievement, and only Flamel was lucky enough to figure it out, so it is pretty reasonable to think that even Voldemort could not make head or tails of its inner workings. So, instead of producing the Elixir of Life, Voldemort got Elixir of Gold Change, and changed himself into a gold statue.

We have a dead Dumbledore, Voldemort with his Horcruxes which means jack shit, because of him being a golden statue, and Harry Potter who is still pushed by Destiny (lets go with the idea that once the prophecy has been started - i.e. Voldemort marking Harry - it must be fulfilled) to find and fight Voldemort.

 

I like this idea.

However, I would suggest a few modifications.

1) Instead of a full blown rebellion you could have the goblins lock the bank down, ejecting current customers from the premises and refusing access to everyone else. The Ministry hears about this and sends a representative from the Goblin Liaison Office and a few Aurors to find out what the hell is going on.

A young Auror, raised on stories about those vicious, vicious Goblin Rebellions, gets jumpy and kills one of the guards the goblins have deployed around the bank when he misinterprets the goblin's actions as threatening. The rest of the guards retaliate and before you know it you have dead Ministry personnel and angry goblins flooding Diagon Alley.

2) Caught up in the middle of this mess are Hagrid and Harry. During the chaotic fighting they get separated. This could lead to Harry being taken to Malfoy Manor since I doubt that Hagrid would willingly let him go, even under the threat of imminent death.

From there the story unfolds in whatever way suits your fancy.

 

I like your modifications Peace. Good work.

 

Really sorry for the double post, but these things happen sometimes.

This was (and still is) originally one of the Alternate Potter Worlds, but I felt that it could be expanded and made into its own special scenario. I hope you enjoy reading it as much as I have enjoyed writing it.

---Global Demonic War---​

Despite knowing about Dementors, Ghosts and other supernatural beings, Wizards never believed in the existence of Demons. They thought of them as muggle myths and superstitions. The year was 1969 when they arrived. Several portals appeared in areas with high concentration of magic. It sure must have been a sight, when Stonehenge was violently torn apart to reveal one of the Demon Portals.

Soon after, the most horrific creatures imaginable ascended to the Earth from the dephts of their breeding grounds. Hellspawns, Demons, Devils, Fire Imps, the list grew every day. Some were small like mice, other as big as giants. They spread in all directions, interested only in destruction and death.

The wizarding nations of course reacted immediately, sending their best experts, many of whom were slaughtered like muggles. A state of war was declared and because of this, Azkaban inmates were offered the choice to either remain in incarceration or join the fight. The prison was empty the next day.

Albus Dumbledore was among the first to arrive and fought bravely, but saw that the sheer number of enemies was overwhelming. As such he had no choice but to free his old friend and enemy, Gellert Grindelwald from his prison. Both of them led the newly created army of wizards and witches.

In Albania, Lord Voldemort who was just about to leave to Britain when the invasion happened, used his charisma and magical talent to gather the magical nations of South-Eastern Europe under his banner.

Centaurs, Merpeople, Veela and other magical beings and creatures rallied under the Goblin Nation, creating yet another army to fight the demonic forces. Dementors, Dragons and Basilisks were widely used by this group

There was no hiding it from the muggles. The enemy numbers alone made this impossible. And so the magical world had to be revealed to all muggle governments (the leaders already knew, which made it easier). Soon, muggle armies joined the fight. Thankfully, the United States and the Soviets somehow managed to work together. Global Demonic War began fully. Nuclear weapons were launched at the portals, but unfortunately the demonic passages seemed immune to damage.

In 1976, the last Demonic Portal was destroyed, ending the war. But the world was changed forever. The Statute of Secrecy was gone, many cities were burned to the ground, the Dementor population was at dangerous levels, Inferi littered the landscape (they were raised as a necessary evil for their numbers), the pollution and demonic corruption were overwhelming. Lord Voldemort now had his own country in Europe and was declared an Emperor, while Grindelwald died in the war. Dumbledore managed to survive, but lost his left arm. Goblins took over Egypt, but had to deal with guerrilla warfare of the local religious population.

And yet, most muggles did not blame the wizards for what has happened. They were oddly thankful for their help. Who knows how the non-magical people would fare if not for their wizarding allies?

The world entered a state of uneasy peace which could be compared to a different cold war. Voldemort's Empire in South Europe now stood high and mighty, equal to the United States and the Soviet Union (both which were crippled in the war). The magical population was slowly merging with the muggle one, allowing the number of newborn magicals to grow. Muggle physicists, now that the war was over, were trying (and mostly failing) to understand magic. Religious fanatics which spoke against witches were widely seen as ungrateful pricks by the muggles and usually ignored (some incidents of course occurred, but one can find that the police is supportive of people who make Veritaserum).

The 1991 present of this world can be described as Magipunk. Floo travel is available to muggles, as well as several other magical services. Unbreakable Vows and Veritaserum are sometimes used in muggle courts. The House Elf population has exploded. There is a permanent base on the Moon and a mission to Mars is underway. The movie industry took a boost thanks to special effects available using magic. Two-Way Mirrors, houses larger on the inside, Quidditch, flying cars, artificial dreams and many other wizarding inventions have made their way into the general population. Polyjuice Potions, Mago-Plastic Surgeries, Wizarding Healing, Transfigured goods, the list goes on and on...

Harry Potter was raised by parents who lived their teenage years through the Demon War, he can't wait to begin his own education at Hogwarts. Although, strange things have been happening recently. His mum is spending more and more time at work (Mrs. Potter is an Unspeakable) and both of Harry's parents seem to be nervous for some reason.

Harry soon found out the reason for their nervousness, when during his first Halloween at Hogwarts, a global state of emergency was declared. They were back.

 

I'd read the fuck out of this if it was expanded and done right.

 

I would only change

to something about destroying vast armies of demons with nukes. Nukes are really scary things and this should be not wasted. Tsar Bomba would be useless in humans vs humans war - but what about using it against demons?

See simulation of what Tsar Bomba would do: http://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/?&kt=50000&lat=54.6316368&lng=-6.7885256&ff=52&zm=7 (note that it is at reduced yield, it could reach 100 megatons of TNT but it was reduced as even Soviets were worried about fallout).

Stories where somebody with gun always wins fights with wizards are lame but it is not a reason to ignore some awesome (and scary) real things especially in settings like this.

wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsar_Bomba

 

I meant that only the portals could not be destroyed with nukes. You can be assurred that nukes were used on demons, but their numbers were just so high that we would have to nuke ourselves to kill them all at once. Surely you wouldn't recommend such an option.

 

Probably some people with religious fervor were advocating it, and claiming that the demons were God's punishment on the mankind, and to redeeme itself, mankind must destroy itself.

 

Incidentally, a lot of people seem to forget that the existence of demons is canon:

Of course, like everything else in HP, the supernatural is treated as normal. It's a demon, yes, but that seems to just be a category in the classification of magical creatures (perhaps creatures which are malicious for maliciousness' sake?).

 

Well yes, Taure, I know that. But clearly these ones are different. I was thinking they are like the inhabitants of the Inferno town in Heroes of Might and Magic III.