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Plot Bunny Thread: Other Fandoms

Discussion in 'Fanfic Discussion' started by Oneiros, Apr 5, 2010.

  1. Methos

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    AU to Narutoverse.

    What if the 9 tailed beasts, had a role and purpose during their period of free from human cages.
    After a century (or near a century) of all the tailed beasts jailed, not attending their duties has dire ramifications.

    Maybe they are part of the world immune system against other supernatural threats ?
    Some elements of canon have to change to make it fit.
    It is an idea I'm playing with.
     
  2. Zenzao

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    Digging through my old drive files and found this brief Ned Stark divergence.



    The Stranger heard his secret prayers, and passed them onto the weirwood in the forest-sept above. And a stranger it was who appeared at his cell door with the quiet whiff of a lantern alighting and the clank it made when the man - for that much at least Eddard could still determine through the long days and nights of his captivity, thin, tall, lithe in the movements in a way that was suddenly familiar - set the only source of light down and rattled the lock momentarily. A thin waif of a sword clicked the tumblers and the door swung inward with the squeal of protesting iron.

    By the old gods, if there was anyone who had not heard that racket... had his throat been wet enough to utter his complaint he might have. Instead he rasped tonelessly, swallowed the blood which broke in his throat and slid down with a sickening copper taste.

    "A Hand predisposed is an arm which bleeds to death." The hint of Braavosi was enough to answer the why behind the sense that he knew this man after all. Arya's swordmaster. Syrio... Forel? Yes, that felt right. Anger rose up inside of Eddard then. Syrio Forel was supposed to be teaching Arya, keeping her safe, not... breaking into this dungeon, and certainly not breaking him free before the trial would be announced. He already knew of the outcome, for of that Cersei Lannister had made clear only two nights passed. Condemnation for treason against the King's heirs, a falsehood that stung even now at his cold pride, and banishment to the Wall, the absolution of his titles, deeds, and all inheritance.

    "Come, come, a Hand cannot lie docile, or atrophy shall accomplish what malnutrition and despair cannot." Syrio stretched out one long, lithe leg for balance, and bent to place a hand beneath Eddard's right arm.

    I cannot leave this cell. Not if there is to be any peace for Sansa, and Arya, who are nearest at hand, and Bran, alone in Winterfell with his mother, and Robb at march even now to protest.

    "No." He shrugged out of the Braavosi’s hold, but in an instant his body had been catapulted into a gut-wrenching rise, and Syrio spun them both to their feet.

    "No more protests. The late King would not approve, and it is you who he had proclaimed the rightful sovereign until Joffrey comes of age."

    None of that matters anymore, Eddard swore. What his throat and lips offered was a senseless garble.

    Syrio sighed. "A Hand is too straightforward, aware of the knives which dance between finger and finger, yet as blind as the head which is covered by a fine cloth." The Braavosi said no more then but rather struck Eddard hard in the stomach and more carefully in the throat. All the air in his lungs rushed out with a painful wheeze, and when he tried to inhale he found that he simply could not. The already dark cell grew darker and began to swim as he rasped to no avail. Is this how I die? He would not know, not now. His eyes rolled weakly up to Syrio's own, and the Braavosi's face seemed to change. The last thing that he heard was Syrio utter, "A Hand is a fool, noble or not."

    Then there was darkness. And dream.

    Outside of the cell and up the stairs, the disapproving visage of Syrio Forel fell away and the Faceless Man beneath carried on with nothing to display.

    /end. Never got any further than this, probably because it isn't that great an execution and the idea isn't really that good either. Never considered what would happen from here, or why the Faceless Man(who was meant to be whats-his-name who helped Ayra later) was let out and hired/ordered to do this.
     
  3. Celestin

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    A Superman self-insert in a generic DC universe.

    A guy wakes up in Clark Kent's body just before his first appearance as Superman. He doesn't get Kal-El's memories, but he does have some basic control of his powers.

    The problem is what he should do now. At first he decides that the world can do without Superman and using his powers decides to set himself up as a successful someone and just live his life as easy as possible in this world.

    Only, the lack of Superman starts to affect the world in more ways than he predicted. While supervillains population is increasing, there as a lot less superheroes to fight them because apparently the Man of Steel was a big inspiration for many of them. Even the big heroes like Batman and Wonder Woman can't handle both their villains and Superman's too, slowly getting overwhelmed by sheer numbers of them. The Justice League project somehow helps, but it's not enough.

    Finally realizing how important Superman is, especially worrying what will happen if bad guys like Darkseid win, the guy decides to become a superhero. Only problem? He's not even close to a person that Clark was. He's lazy and selfish. He's a coward too, afraid of fighting anyone that can actually hurt him.

    His advantage is his familiarity with various DC universes and characters, giving him a necessary edge in dealing with them safely. As his main goal is increasing number of superheroes and general survival, he's not above making some questionable deals. Like becoming a face of Lexcorp's campaign "You Can Be A Hero". Or hiring more money focused supervillains for his Redemption Squad instead of fighting them.

    Some more paranoid superheroes like Batman have their doubts about him, especially his public "heroic" persona, but as long as he stays on the good side, they let it go.

    There is only one person that isn't going to and plans to expose Superman for a fraud he is. That person is the star reporter of Daily Planet, Lois Lane.
     
  4. Andrela

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    @Celestin

    I'm interested in your opinion on this: How would one go about creating a good mix of Marvel and DC? Essentially take most (not all) characters from both universes and put them into one.

    Now, I'm not talking about such silliness like the Amalgam universe, that was just weird. And, of course, you shouldn't take all the hundreds of characters from both worlds.

    Bonus points: have a realistic timeline, in the sense that each character enters the scene the year they were introduced. So you have Superman and Captain America in early 40s while guys like Spider-Man and Fantastic Four show up in the 60s.

    I'd be down for developing a timeline like that, sounds fun.
     
  5. Lion

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    This is actually an interesting idea @Andrela. Bringing in people in the correct time means that even by the 60s you're going to have a wildly divergent timeline. Superman alone shakes the world massively with his presence. Marvel has several heavy hitters, but unless we're going cosmic not too many are as powerful or active as superman. Sure you have people like Franklin Richards, but they tend to constrained or not too active around the world. So having Supes appear in the 40s means everything else would be different. His first title appears in 1939. What does World War 2 look like with Superman around? Especially when it's one who has entirely a different sense of morals than what we have today. He might object to the war at first, but the second he learns about concentration camps he's in that, if only to stop the concentration camps. There's also the issue to a world wide response to the United States having a nuke before they were even a thing. It would probably be messy. All this to say, I'd probably start the timeline differently.

    Superman is too strong and visible to be the hero of the 40s. Captain America starting the combined universe is the best bet. He's a strong image that inspires future heroes, but he isn't some super strong world breaker. Fighting the Nazi's and disappearing towards the end of the war is more than enough. It solidifies the idea that heroes can exist, and allows us to start to skip forward. This is important because the Marvel we know today doesn't start until the 1960s. The only big name characters recognizable from the 40s are Captain America, the Human Torch, Vision, and Namor. Two of them are entirely different incarnations, while the other two are barely recognizable. Older comics reflect America at the time, so attitudes were a little different. Having Cap and a few others as legends to modern heroes works a little better.

    The timeline starts in the 1940s with the adventures of Captain America. He, and the rest of the Justice Society of America, fight the nazis and inspire the world in general. Unfortunately after his disappearance in 1945 they begin to splinter. Namor returns to Atlantis, disappointed with humanity in the aftermath of the second great war. Green Lantern, Alan Scott, abandons earth for the most part. Focusing more on threats in other parts of his sector. The Flash would unfortunately die, a result of his powers overcharging his body. Diana of Themyscira would return to the island because men had nothing to offer, and she hates the name Wonder Woman. Doctor Fate would forever be unremembered by humanity, as the nazis proved they weren't ready for the wider knowledge of magic. The V.I.S.I.O.N program would be scuttled in favor of more advancing robotics. Finally the unofficial mascot of the society, Metal Lad, would disappear entirely.

    Their legacy would inspire many in the late 40s and early 50s, but the lack of abilities stymied their rise. Here is where I would throw in some of the old names that aren't really as relevant but can help to build a combined universe. People like Patriot and Destroyer would be around but not too influential. They would be local celebrities and not all that strong. Enough to beat up some muggers. The most serious name from this era would be Angel. No one knows who he is or what he can do, but they know when he comes into town criminals disappear. He mostly is against the mob and other organized crime groups.

    Really the world doesn't heat up until the late 60s and the mutant crisis. Mutants started to appear after WW2. At first they were a delightful novelty, a guy who can grow super long hair or throw a fireball. That would change with the destruction of Dallas. A mutant lost control of his abilities, and would massacre the city. It would take the military almost a day to finally stop him. They don't manage to kill him, and thus the Hulk roams free. After these events the attitudes in America, and the rest of the world, would start to change. In 1964 the United States government would unveil the Sentinels. Built to protect the United States from mutants and commies, they would begin a campaign of capturing mutants to segregate them from the general population for their own safety. The brutality would instead inspire Metal Lad to come out of retirement and save his people. Taking the name Magneto he and his friend Charles Xavier would go on a campaign to protect and save Mutants around the world.

    Elsewhere Reed Richards is selecting his crew to go into space and pierce the universe.

    A young Bruce Wayne has just been taken in by Thomas Halloway, an old family friend.

    Arthur Curry finds out the identity of his father, and what comes with it.

    Clark Kent graduates from high school and moves to New York City, to attend Metropolis University for journalism.

    Dr. Stephen Strange's car slides out of control and falls down a mountain.



    I'll expand on this idea a bit later. I just threw this together in about an hour because the idea really hooked me.
     
  6. Celestin

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    I'm pretty sure I tried do something like that, but at first focused on joining them on cosmic and mystical levels, starting with the beginning of the Universe. The Guardians, the Old Gods and the New, the Elders, the Celestials, Galactus, Phoenix, the Endless and many more could simply be put together without much interactions, but I wanted a setup where the existence of one affect all the others.

    On Earth level, making timeline based on their first comics is tempting, because it already gives you a timeframe and your focus is on making it work within it. That said, finding out a sequence of their appearance that gives you the biggest potential is just as fun in my opinion and that's the method I'm using.

    My starting point would be Superman's first appearance. It's not like there weren't proto-superheroes before, like masked vigilantes from Gotham, colourful soldiers from WWII, or even just scary mutants, but he finally defines what it means to be one.

    The moment Superman saves the plane is the beginning of the Age of Heroes.

    Having that point, the next step is figuring out what year it should happen. The turn of the century, 2001, could work well enough.

    The tricky part, one that doesn't usually work even within original DC and Marvel universes, is having events, small and big, be caused by one another.

    Things like Superman's appearance giving financial boast to research of the past heroes, helping find Captain America. The Justice League and the Avengers formations being two different answers to question how superheroes should operate with the League being more responsive and the Avengers more proactive. Spider-Man using blue and red colours because there are Superman's colours and he in turn was taking them from Captain America. Bruce deciding to not use guns once he creates Batman after being Punisher's "student" for some time and witnessing what monster he became in his quest for revenge.
     
  7. Andrela

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    About Superman specifically: what if his powers were like in his earliest appearances and never went to the ridiculous levels like today? No Superboy-Prime punching a hole in reality nonsense.
     
  8. Lion

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    You're moving along similar lines as what I was gonna go for, only difference being timing and how events push off. I did have Punisher becoming Bruce's student in the 90s though. He'd be a replacement for Dick and become a Punisher/Nightwing hybrid. Punisher would leave Bruce because he believes that criminals need to be stopped for real. Something Bruce hasn't done since the brutality he witnessed being raised by Halloway. Superman would defintely take inspiration from Cap as well, and then Spiderman from him. I wasn't gonna have Peter enter until the late 80s though. Also the Avengers vs. Justice League would be government sponsored vs. independent heroes. Justice League comes first and eventually becomes a part of UN/World Governments as kind of a global enforcer. Being part of the UN though means they have to let in some people they don't want to and start to lose reputation. Avengers would come about because some heroes see the Justice League as useless at best, and corrupt at worst. Depends on which team you're interacting with. Only thing I didn't wanna deal with was Cosmic stuff, cause it wouldn't really come up in the story I'd tell.
     
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    The X-Men become a global sensation almost overnight. From their first appearance in the Congo, to battling crazed Sentinels in Chicago, they attracted massive attention. Magneto and Xtraordinary led and acted as figureheads for the entire mutant cause. Very strong ones at that. Magneto, who was also Metal Lad of the Justice Society, was known worldwide for fighting Nazis with Captain America. Xtraordinary was born into a well known New York family, very respected old money, and one of the most eligible bachelors. Together they changed the common image of mutants from those with physical abnormalities and uncontrollable powers, to suave and debonair Super-Heroes. A carefully selected team of mutants behind them further helped their image. All of them were young, attractive, and relatively powerful. Until their Splinter in 1975, the X-Men would be the world's premier Superhero team, and lay the groundwork for a lot of future teams make ups.

    On December 21st, 1969 Reed Richard's Discoverer space plane takes off. It's destination is a point much further than the usual Mars joyride. Reed intended to go to a point within Saturn's Ring that he believes is a warp gate. No one believed his theory, and looked at it as another scientist taking a rich man on an expensive space joyride. Unfortunately for everyone, he was right. Reed finds his warp gate, transporting his whole ship to the Phantom Zone.

    Bruce Wayne's parents would die four days later. A vicious christmas day break in that would see his parents tortured and killed. Young Bruce would only be saved by the sacrifice of Alfred, and a series of hidden passages within the manor. The Police would never find the perpetrators. One year later Angel and cherub would. Thomas Halloway, an old family friend, would adopt Bruce Wayne. Seeing the anger held within the boy, he would bring him into his life. After a year of gruesome training Angel and Cherub would debut. After slaughtering the mob family that ordered the hit on the Waynes, they would go cross country. Spending the next seven years hunting down and exterminating organized crime groups. A few masked villains as well, but they weren't quite popping up yet. Six months before his 18th birthday Bruce would leave Thomas behind and settle in his native Chicago under a new mantle. With modified tech from his namesake conglomerate, Batman would bring his city to the light.

    Arthur Curry led a perfectly normal life. He worked at the dock, smoked weed, and drank with his buddies. Sometimes all at once. Nothing in life prepared him to come home and find a bunch of guys in armor tearing apart his house. Nor for them to all bow when he walked in the door. Finding out his deadbeat dad, who ran out on his mom and left her to die giving birth to him, is Namor is the last straw. Especially because he is now expected to return under the sea and assist his ailing father. Given no choice he is quickly taken to Atlantis and crowned Prince. He meets admirers, is taught atlantean magic, and learns about his own awesome powers. Now equipped he is sent to the surface to be an ambassador of the Atlantean people, as Aquaman! Based in LA he becomes a staple of superheros in the seventies, even doing a few movies. Meanwhile in Atlantis, Namor's health continues to deteriorate and the quiet civil war gets louder and louder.

    Inspired by the Justice Society of America, and Captain America most of all, Clark Kent knew he would be a Superhero. From a boy he was told of crashing down from the skies in a Starship, a little blessing to his parents. He carefully hid his powers and worked hard to be a model student, citizen, and son. Getting accepted to Metropolis University would finally make his dreams come true. With rapidly expanding abilities he would quickly make a name for himself in the city. A caped crusader who blinked in and out, there long enough to stop evil doers. The city would get it's first good look at him when he fought the crazed Sentinels during the 4th of July Parade. Where the X-Men used teamwork and fantastical combos to take out the robots in Chicago, Superman did it through pure strength. Flying around with laser eyes, batting Sentinels with other Sentinels, he firmly cemented his place as a heavy hitter. And while the X-Men would spurn the government, and authority all together, Superman would happily embrace them. So much so that when the Justice League would be revealed in 1972, Superman would be right up front. In 1974 when the Heralds would destroy Vienna, and nearly break the X-Men, Superman would be there. In 1978 when the UN ratified the Justice League as a global peacekeeping force, Superman would be there.

    Dr. Stephen Strange is a driven man. It would be said when he graduated with his bachelors at 20, and again with dual P.H.Ds at 24. When he completed the first Brain surgery thought to be impossible at 26, he would have it put as a vanity plate on his Porsche. The same one that drove down the side of a cliff during a vacation in upstate New York. The next four years would be spent searching for a way to fix his hands. When science and technology failed him, he turned to the mystical arts. Under the tutelage of Dormammu, Stephen would learn magic the likes of which he could never imagine. With this knowledge he would hunt down and steal the mantle of Sorcerer Supreme, killing the Ancient One. Equipped with the mantle he would go on to do wondrous things, dark and wondrous things. Eventually, he would come to the attention of Doctor Fate.

    Hal Jordan would touch down on December 1st of 1974. The missing pilot of the Discoverer would warn of his lost crew and what they were bringing. Equipped with the ring of Alan Scott, he would be taken semi-seriously. On December 5th, Reed Richards and the rest of his crew would return. Where six left, seven returned. All of them touched by the Phantom Zone in different ways. Reed Richards himself was malleable and ever changing. Sue Storm was paler than fresh snow, and her eyes a bright almost glowing purple. Johnny Storm was fire, unending fire. Ben Grimm became a thing. Barry Allen, the chemical engineer, was faster than anything. Finally they also brought Jon Jones, the last martian and Silver Surfer. Under his guide they would take the name Heralds of Galactus, and plead for humanities surender. So that they may all accept his mercy and live in a new era of prosperity. It would take the combined forces of the Justice League, X-Men, and several independent European heroes to finally stop the Heralds. It would also kick off a new era of what it meant to be a costumed villain. Robbing banks and kidnapping is nothing to holding the globe hostage. Everyone would up their ante now.

    From here it would go into the late 70s and all of the 80s. With the big theatrics of the Heralds, villains decide to take it up a notch. This is when it would start to get more comic book like in the villains and problems the heroes would be facing. Along with several notable names on opposite sides. Doctor Doom taking his country back from the Soviet Union had tremendous government support. Wakanda decided to take over all of Africa was met with some resistance. It wouldn't be enough resistance until it was far too late though. Of course the Atlantean Civil War did kind of mask the opening shots of that takeover. Themyscira of course objects once the Wakandans reach their island, but that's another conflict.
     
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