The only thing that could make this gayer is if he woke up with a broomstick shoved up his arse and the pound of techno in the background.

 

Fucking sullying the name of DLP with that shit.

 

All rightey, then. I shall do that. Hell, I might even make this a challenge. Would somebody actually have the moxie (and fucking courage) to give it a go? =D

NOTE: This is my version of the timeline. However, you can alter what you want for your creativity, as long as you keep the essence of the story (GWL!Luna, prolonged First War, AliveButUnhinged!Xeno, ProMugglebornButExtremelyFascist!Crouch Ministry, Weasleys = Pettigrew/Lupin/Sirius, Alt!GWL!Ginny)

A Timeline for the Saga of Luna Lovegood - the Girl WhoLived.​

1962 - The Death Eaters begin to exert pressure on the Ministry of Magic. Nobby Leach is elected as Minister for Magic.

1963 - Narcissa Black meets the future Mrs Lovegood for the first time, presumably at a Pureblood function (if Mrs Lovegood is a pureblood), at Flourish and Blotts (if Mrs Lovegood is a half-blood), or at the Florean-esque ice-cream parlour outside Grimmauld Place.

The timeline could have diverged here; perhaps Narcissa never met Mrs Lovegood in canon.

1967 - The Pureblood riots during Squib Rights marches. Unlike in canon, a few Death Eaters attack this event without Voldemort's consent and massacre the Squibs. At the attacks, Minister Nobby Leach is one of the victims. Thus, the public are instantly aware of the threat posed by Death Eaters and fast-forward Pro-Squib&Muggleborn legislation.

A far more austere and Anti-Slytherin person is elected as Minister. If canon didn't diverge with Narcissa meeting Mrs Lovegood, it diverges here.

1970s - The Death Eaters and the austere Ministry of Magic begin a terrible war of attribution and total conquest. Dolohov kills Gideon and Fabian Prewett in front of a young Molly, giving her a life-long motivation to protect her family at all costs.

1980 - Harry and Neville are born. There is no Prophecy. Hence, Trelawney does not get the position of Divination at Hogwarts.

1981 - Luna, Colin, Rolf, and Ginny are born. Trelawney gives a Prophecy, but not in front of Dumbledore. Instead, she gives it at a [insert location] in front of [insert person]. Narcissa overhears and tells Snape. They concoct a plan by themselves; they don't include anyone else, because they don't trust them.

1982 - Minister Millicent Bagnold is assassinated. The Head of the Department of Magical Law Enforcement, Bartemius Crouch Sr, takes the position.

1985 - The Death Eaters storm Hogsmeade. Ron Weasley is killed in the fray. Lily Potter is also injured (perhaps maimed), prompting Snape to realise that Death Eaters can and will kill Lily eventually.

1986 - Travers kills Order member, Dorcas Meadowes, at Diagon Alley; Cygnus and Druella Black are collateral damage and suffer severe injuries which kill them.

1988: January - Lucius discovers Narcissa and Snape's plan. In rage, he renders Narcissa comatose. Snape escapes with his life (and Narcissa's body?) and runs to Dumbledore. While Lucius tells Voldemort about half of the Prophecy, Dumbledore forms his Fidelius Plan and hides the Weasleys and Lovegoods. Mrs Lovegood and Mr Weasley are the Secret Keepers.

Also, Karkaroff dies. Hence, nobody is around to blab in Rookwood.

1988: Halloween - Luna and Ginny are now seven (Voldemort's favourite number). The Weasleys and Lovegoods discreetly change Secret Keepers. A traitor goes to Voldemort, and Voldemort picks Luna because she is more similar to him than Ginny (perhaps Luna is a half-blood? Luna has no siblings?).

During the Attack on the Lovegoods, Xenophilius suffers a terrible curse, while Mrs Lovegood performs the Blood Sacrifice. Voldemort is vanquished, and Luna is declared the GWL.

Outraged, Lucius Malfoy attempts to avenge Voldemort by killing the Weasleys (à la Bellatrix and the Longbottoms). Wizards are injured, as well as the twelve Muggle bystanders.

Late 1988/Early 1989 - The Crouch Ministry ruthlessly crack down on Death Eaters, more so than the Bagnold Administration from canon. Arthur Weasley is imprisoned for betraying the Lovegoods, and an overwhelming majority of the Death Eaters (including: Crabbe, Goyle, Nott, Travers, Selwyn, Macnair, Dolohov) are correctly sent to Azkaban. As a result, many of Luna's generation Slytherins grew up without one parent and in fear. They wise-up and adopt an ambitious Hufflepuff approach of "keep your head down and be incognito".

Lucius Malfoy is also sent to Azkaban; Malfoy Manor is frozen, and its possessions, including the Diary, are confiscated. Rodolphus and Bellatrix Lestrange witness what is happening and, upon discovering that Sirius would get custody of Draco, pretend not to Death Eaters. Specifically, they state that they have been Imperius-ed and have been loyal to the Ministry since 1986. Their reasoning is that Travers killed Bellatrix's parents and Dorcas (Rodolphus's cousin).

In order to make the charade more convincing, they solicit the help of Crouch Jr. Together, they forge the appropriate amount of paperwork and Confound the appropriate people to convince Crouch Sr of their innocence.

When the Lestranges put on a show of Anti-Death Eater sentiments, they are released to raise Draco.

Late 1989 - Harry's little sister drowns when Harry is nine. He can now see Thestrals and becomes a little less like James as a result. He's still way more carefree than he was in canon, though.

1990 - Sirius marries Rosmerta, while Umbridge starts the Great London Witch Trials. In the fashion of McCarthy and Salem, many innocent people who are connected to Death Eaters (often by the virtue that they are Slytherin) are arrested. Harsher curfews are implemented, the press is heavily moderated, and draconian measures such as the abolition of the right to attorney are proposed. It's this stuff which Hermione would view as abhorrent, since it is so Stalinist and not very "modern".

1991: January - By this time, the following Order members are either dead or "missing": Moody, Dorcas, the McKinnons, Mary MacDonald, the Longbottoms, Arthur, Bill, Ron and Percy Weasley, Sturgis Podmore, the Prewetts, Edgar Bones, Susan's parents.

The true traitor to the Lovegoods is probably one of those people. Choose who you want. Alternatively, it could be Mrs Weasley, although I doubt she'd betray Arthur (who is still part of her family and therefore to whom her family instincts extend)

At any rate, it's a PoA mystery.

Mid-1991 - Harry, Draco, and Hermione go to Hogwarts. Harry and Hermione become very good friends. Meanwhile, Dumbledore advises Luna to go to Sweden with Mr Lovegood in order for the man to recuperate. An Order member (probably Lupin) is sent as a chaperone.

Dumbledore loses support when he voices his disapproval of the blacklists. Umbridge sets up a Hitler Youth-esque group for anti-DE children called "the Inquisition Squad", which is supposedly a fast-track to the Crouch Ministry. It is mostly filled by ardent Hufflepuffs and vengeful victims of war, such as Susan and Neville.

1992 - Luna, Ginny, Rolf, and Colin arrive at Hogwarts. Luna and Rolf are sorted to Ravenclaw, and Ginny and Colin are sent to Gryffindor. They befriend the older and cool Harry Potter.

The Troll incident happens. The events of PS/SS unravel. Slughorn is the Potions Master, while the DADA post is filled by someone else. The combination of Snape's absence as the Slytherin Head and the stringent Anti-Voldemort legislation means that Slytherins are treated as the bottom of the pack - or worse.

Meanwhile, the fervidly anti-Slytherin Crouch Jr is promoted to the Head of International Magical Cooperation. Rookwood gains a powerful position in the Department of Mysteries. The Lestranges are the ones with the least secure position in the Crouch fascist world; however, their reputation cannot be faulted. They have used the Lestrange fortune to donate wards to St Mungos in honour of dead Muggleborns.

Roldolphus also gains a job at either 1) the Beauxbatons or 2) as a Healer at St Mungos. I like the latter, since a corrupt doctor is a scary doctor. [Maybe he and Bellatrix have decided to keep Narcissa drugged all the time at Mungos, so that she would never regain consciousness. Sure, Bellatrix care enough about her sister not to kill her and to choose to raise Draco, but she probably hates her for what she did to Voldemort. There! Now you have motivation for why Draco, the ruthless Slytherin, would betray his primary caretakers - the Lestranges]

1993 - Arthur Weasley breaks out of Azkaban. The events of PoA are fast-forwarded. Bellatrix reveals her true colours to Luna; Luna tells other people, but nobody other than her friends and Dumbledore believe her. The "Luna is Loony" bashing begins.

1994 - Bellatrix Lestrange, bitter with Luna, release the Hufflepuff Cup to somebody. As a result, a (heavily) modified version of CoS begins. During the course of this year, Colin and Ginny date a little, while Luna draws closer to Harry.

When you drink from the Cup, something happens/

The Inquisition Squad persecute the Slytherins when the Muggleborn Petrifications begin. When Luna defends Draco and/or Pansy, the Inquisition Squad really starts to pile the pressure on Luna's group. Hermione is a little hesitant, but overall Luna's friends hold strong.


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From this point onwards, you can make the events diverge to your heart's will. Perhaps the Death Eaters break-out of Azkaban in 1994, instead of 1995. The events of CoS can happen concurrently to the GoF. You can also decide the couples. Perhaps Harry hooks up with Luna, or Colin and Ginny break up. Hell, if you want a mindscrew, make Luna date Draco. They'd form an interesting friendship anyway, so why not kick it up a notch?

Play with what you want.

I'd be interesting to make Luna clash with both the protective Mrs Weasley and the Bitch-in-Sheep's-Clothing Bellatrix. Luna's longing for a stable maternal figure, before eventually discovering that she doesn't need one (because she has Nargles and her friends to keep her company)

Just keep the Chaos (of Luna) versus the Order (of the Ministry) as a central theme, and you should be fine.

 

Not too shabby. You should really try & write this.

Where's that Thumbs down button when you need it?

On the contrary, you can give Harry Justin Bieber's old hairstyle.
...now that you've read it, here, take this bottle of brainbleach.

 

I would write it, except that I have no time right now. I have my schoolwork to worry about, as well as a Harry Potter story to finish. Hell, I'm even in the middle of posting a Pokemon fanfic.

I'll leave the outline/idea for somebody else to snatch, though. Perhaps I'll make it a challenge.

 

I saw a challenge a while back, and it was incredibly simple - "you will 'ship harry/death".

I wanted to use this to write something that would be disturbing - Death may have a anthropomorphic personification (or whatever it is Pratchett calls them), but only since the attack on the Potters. Death is seen as a girl that is Harry's age, either taking the place of a canon character, or refusing the deaths of a couple, and then posing as their daughter.

The intrinsic ickiness (apart from that Death isn't human), is the paedophile!groomer!GrimReaper thing. For whatever reason (I would have Harry a necromancer, but have never seen that written particularly well, and wouldn't trust my own abilities on this), Death is obsessed with him as a partner. Maybe Death personifies every once in a while, to keep up with its charges?

The problem is, I have no idea how I could carry this further. Unless I make Death into a quasi-imaginary thing, so only Harry can see and interact with her, there will be no contention.

The main thing I wanted to include was the dirtiness of the relationship - it is unhealthy, creepy, and (if it were two humans) illegal. Yet Harry would be completely happy, and I'd want the reader to not be so grossed out it they wouldn't read.

Any ideas on how to bash this into something writable?

 

That's not a terrible idea, but another serious problem that you'd run across is having Harry become way too powerful, either through the powers that Death grants him or through Death's direct actions themselves.

That said, the relationship isn't any weirder than HP/Voldemort (except it's not really slash); but of course there aren't any good HP/V fics anyways. So I guess that's not saying much.

 

I quite like the sound of that. It'd make a pretty awesome story in the right hands.

 

I'm firm believer (as is Jim Butcher) that in the right hands any story can be awesome.

About Harry/Death - well you need to make her less powerful, so how about the Old Laws stopping her from directly interfering with the Destiny? Like she can't tell Harry everything she knows, but can hint some things for him to figure it out. She also can't just kill every DE and be done with it.

Lastly, their unhealthy relationship when Harry is still a kid reminds me of this one-shot fic where Tonks used eleven years old him as her boy-toy. Not sure about title, but it's reasonable guess that it's probably somewhere in mature WbA section on this forum.

 

Thanks, I'd seen some of the other response to the challenge, and they were really weird, Dom!MasterofDeath!Harry Sub!Death smut fics. I thought paedo!notlivingthing!death might be more amusing.

And @T3t, that's why I haven't started it properly yet - I have no idea how to keep this Harry as a non-godlike figure. Unless DeathAsPerson (from here called D) was seperate from DeathAsActivity, she ends up as massive mary-sue.

Time to let it percolate for now...

 

Doesn't Neil G's Death, a teenaged goth girl, become mortal for one day every hundred years or so to experience first hand life, and to keep reminding herself of the value of the lives she takes?

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A simple cure for any possible age!Squick; although interested in Harry, 'she' can't interact with him directly due to natural laws, Destiny/Fate and shit (Gaelic/Celtic and Norse could work well here, if areas saturated by 'Old Religion/Magic' come under those rules; none of the Shinto laws/religion, for example, would exist in Scotland, and vice versa.)

She can, however, influence him indirectly through events and unwitting agents (by using deaths as 'tilting' boards; kill a family member of a co-worker of Vernon's, forces Vernon to cover that shift, and not do something that would harm/affect Harry in some way) like not making his childhood complete and utter shite.

She indirectly moulds him and instills within him a thirst for knowledge, but at the same time not encouraging his (what you call cliche) Slytherin traits. (Gotta have him easy to read, after all.)

The Harry that enters Hogwarts ends up in a tossup between going for either Gryffindor or Ravenclaw, due to Death's influence surpassing that of the pseudo!Horcrux in his scar. Due to the links between his parents (magical and personality), Harry's other valid choice is Gryffindor.

A moment of triumph/a turning point of the plot is when Harry chooses Ravenclaw, because he's eager to sate the thirst for knowledge Death cultivated in him.

Although later on in the storyline he has to interact with the Weasley family and allies (see OotP and Grimmauld Place, etc in canon), he's not friendly with Ron-the-Douchebag or Ginny-the-Fangirl. Although friendly with the family (he has a somewhat friendly interaction with Bill and Charlie when met due to their lines of work), things are frosty; he cannot stand Molly's mothering, for example, and often goes off and does things on his own.

Harry, in the end, ultimately becomes a bit of an enigma at Hogwarts, shunning people and preferring to either fly alone, or be locked away somewhere. Because of this mysterious air surrounding him, many of the pure-bloods keep an eye on him, especially since he's seen practicing old magical customs like celebrating Winter Solstice and Samhain , instead of 'muggle-filth/mudblood' bastardizations of them (Christmas, Halloween).

Sirius, when meeting him, is disappointed that he doesn't take after his father so much, with only some of his personality taking after his mother, and ends up being somewhat estranged from him.

Her (Death's) interest in him at first isn't romantic, but platonic, perhaps even sisterly; the ancient magic invoked by Lily, coupled with the whole Fate/Destiny/Survival of the AK curse thing, gains 'her' interest, and wants someone to be a relative equal because she's...lonely? It also helps that she detests Tom Riddle, because of his Horcrux creation/soul butchering.

However, as Harry enters his teenage years, that interest evolves.

Using a combination of the protection instilled by Dumbledore through the protections on Privet Drive, and the energy of the soul fragment in his scar, Death uses this to become manifest, essentially creating and utilizing a loophole in 'Fate's' plan.

Unfortunately, that also pisses over the protections set up by Dumbledore on Privet Drive, and the Prophecy.

Some random ideas:

If Harry does go the 'animagus' route, make it a Raven; Ravens, Rooks and Crows have a deep and rich mythology related to the afterlife and death.

Harry gets the same wand as in canon, due to the whole 'Prophecy' thing, but a few years down the line, he 'tricks it out' by gently (and crudely) carving runes on the wood.

Relationships? A fledgling interest in Hermione could work, only for it to be killed a horrid death by her attitudes/personality.

Ginny? No fucking way; if anything, this Harry would detest being near such a fan girl.

Cho? Passing, physical attraction, but nothing special/explored upon, much to her chagrin.

Tonks, Fleur, Hestia, all possibilities/unrequited from Harry's end; seeing Harry being pursued by one of these women would be a nice change compared to him chasing/pining after them, like in other fiction stories.

 

Good lord I do believe you sparked something. To the typing pad!

 

Upon reading your idea, I can't help but be reminded of Path of Decision, a HP/Sandman crossover. You may (or may not) want to check this out first.

 

Read it; even sent the author a PM a year or so back, asking if he (she?) would consider writing an alternate ending where Harry becomes 'Decision' - Death's husband, or something. He said that although it (or a concept very similar) was considered, he didn't feel that he could pull it off right, and just wanted to leave it as it currently is.

 

Depressing as it is, I'd probably read this. So pull your thumb out of your arse and try writing it. Stand up to the crits on the other side.

Not crazy about some of the ideas, but damn if that isn't a well thought out timeline. It needs a third dimension though, but this is potentially solved by another author picking it up.

Link me if this ever gets written.

This Harry!Death strangeness just gave me an idea. Harry Potter crossed with Let The Right One In.

The basic premise could be the same, with young Harry and young Death/Vamp falling in love as semi-sweet innocent things, but adds the need to feel 'human' by the little girl, and makes the whole thing more morally ambiguous (death is inescapable - sucked blood and massacre is not), and give the opportunity to play with the idea of Harry going from being friends with, and taught by, this girl to eventually realising that because of her status as a dark creature, she is essentially a second class citizen and lives in constant danger. Perhaps justifiably, as Harry had seen/helped her feed.

You could keep a lot of the same plot points and devices, but doing it as a straight crossover instead of a bizarro Harry/Death fic potentially grants more readers, offers a recognisable figure in the dark character, and adds a political and sociological element to what is otherwise just a story about Harry having some dark guardian angel pushing him to be better,

 

Yeah, I've read it, and I did enjoy it, but I wouldn't read it again. There is a slight hint of H/Death in it, but it never really goes anywhere.

The only problem with that is the static age of the vampire. So you'd have an eight year old Harry making friends with a physically twelve year old, then you'd end up with a 17 year old Harry running away with a physically twelve year old.

Although the film (both original and redo) is awesome

 

It would be interesting to see how Harry's qualities as a charismatic leader and teacher manifest, even though he's not the BWL, but come through on their own, when he doesn't have unwanted fame and Dursley baggage weighing him down and prompting him to keep a low profile.

When you think about it, if the first war stretched on until Harry was 8-10 years old (Luna's mother being killed either when the former was 7 or 9... or whatever), and he still had his parents, they'd undoubtedly try to "train him up" to some extent. I mean, he's growing up during wartime and his parents were Order members, after all. And I'm sure Remus and Sirius would pitch in. Harry could be a pretty decent fighter, and "peer mentor" for Luna.

Regulus Black was a death eater who turned coat, anyway; so, what about him as a double agent? Of course, that would mean he either didn't find out about the horcruxes, didn't try to steal one, or at least didn't get caught...

He could be keeping his knowledge of them mum until he knows what they all are.

Refusing the call is a common part of the Hero Cycle, and this would be a perfectly valid reaction.

She's Death; she gets Harry whether he lives or not, so it could be that she has no pressing interest in keeping him alive.

Sure, palling around with him as a human is good for laughs, when you have all of eternity to do your usual gig, but if he croaks, she's still got him.

Unless, of course, she has goals concerning him that require he be alive for a while... like spawning little Harry-Death demi-wizard offspring with him.

It could also be that there is, if not a higher power, some sort of cosmic balance involved that forces her to toe the line to some degree, meaning that she can goof off as a corporeal human (or an imaginary friend, or whatever), and that's fine, but she can't also use her more impressive abilities to step in on Harry's behalf.

Telling him not to go around that corner into the dark alley? Fine.
Teaching him some nifty spells? Fine.
Using her powers to insta-kill a mob of death eaters who are about to lay the smack down on Harry? Not allowed.

Metaphysical checks and balances are a time honored excuse.

Hmm. Basically 'what Celestin said' only wordier... as I am wont to do.

 

I think a lot of people expected Harry to become 'Decision', and have some sort of relationship with Death; it seemed like it was all leading up to that, and then...well, cop-out.

 

Lot of good concepts these last couple pages, so I'm a bit ashamed to only contribute an opening scene of a potential plot bunny.

Oh well, I'll get over it. Here's the set-up: Harry Potter thoroughly wipes his hands of battle the moment Voldemort's heart stops beating when his Avada Kedavra backfires on him for the second time (if it was even beating before) and goes back to school with a surprised and very pleased Hermione Granger to study magic. Except this time it's for pleasure.

He works hard in several courses he'd never had the time to take before, as well as a few he'd missed hunting horcruxes. When he graduates alongside with Hermione, Ginny, and Luna by his side, he decides he doesn't know enough about magic. He needs to learn more.

Except instead of researching obscure dark magics and the like, he goes after the innocent things. He begins to enjoy the little things that magic can do for him. This fact is emphasized by his stunted childhood before and after he discovered magic.

He studies in the fields of transfiguration, runes, and ironically enough, potions. He can even make a few ground-breaking discoveries in those fields if you want.

He marries Ginny as in the books. He has little baby James Sirius Black just the same, as well as Albus Severus Potter. Before Lily Luna Potter can be conceived, however, an uprising Dark Lord strikes Harry and his family one night while they're having dinner.

Harry fights valiantly, as does Ginny, but his foe is accompanied by dozens of his followers and Harry is rusty from years away from the dueling arts. Harry is finally disarmed and soon after downed by a curse he couldn't quite dodge in time.

Ginny has already been subdued by this time, and the aspiring Dark Lord makes Harry watch as he kills his wife and children in cold blood. Then he begins to torture him. Harry is near broken when Neville and his entire store of Aurors arrive on the scene.

Neville joined the aurors soon after he graduated from Hogwarts. His actions in the final battle of Hogwarts had schocked everyone (including himself) but Harry, and had showed Neville that he could make a difference. For this reason, Neville works like a slave, clawing his way up to the office of Head Auror impressively quickly. Ron is with him every step of the way, and is his most trusted auror, as well as one of his best friends. Ron is with Neville when they storm the Potter residence.

Their opponents are entirely too easy to defeat for Neville to be satisfied, and he orders a thorough search of the Potter household once they retreat. He feels sick when Ron and he are interrupted in consoling the near catatonic Harry to be told that the resurrection stone and the invisibility cloak are both missing.

When Harry finally regains some semblance of coherency Neville and Ron bring him up to speed, and he tells them that he'd been disarmed in the fight, so now the Elder Wand which he'd laid to rest with Dumbledore now belonged to the mysterious new Dark Lord. A quick check of the coffin reveals that it had been ransacked for the second time since it had been put there, and the Elder Wand was gone once again.

From there Harry would have to get his dueling skills back up to snuff in order to stop the new menace plaguing Britain, as well as avenge his dead family. It would also be interesting to see him implement the other areas of magic that he'd been studying into battle. I don't have much besides that, so the author could obviously take it in any direction that they wanted from there.

So... yeah. That's it.

 

Well... I have an idea that won't seem to leave me alone. I was inspired by both Grinning Lizard's Assassins Creed/HP crossover and Wastelands of Time. Due to a freak accident Harry is sent back into the ancient past.

The idea would be Harry making his way through time. Initially he had tried to send himself back to his timeline, but eventually gave up, living his days in ancient bablyon.

The day after he dies from old age however, he wakes up in a strange inn, the same age he was when he went into the past (age forthcoming). This happens constantly, everytime he dies, he wakes up in an important era or the onset of an event, (ancient greece, ancient rome, etc)

I don't really know how I would set it up, as falling through a veil and a malfunctioning portkey are overused and dull. I think the story could go on indefinatly, because each time he dies, the story almost restarts, and in a way Harry is like doctor who...( A doctor Who Harry would be EPIC)

I also had an idea to have multiple people write Harry as each era passes in the story, making the themes change. It would be interesting, because of such the different political mindsets at the time.

anyone interested in the idea, and helping me?