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Discussion in 'Fanfic Discussion' started by Skeletaure, Apr 17, 2009.

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  1. Memory King

    Memory King Order Member DLP Supporter

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    Think I saw something like that a while back. Unfortunately Harry started drinking because Ginny married Seamus.

    Would be amusing to see this done without drama or romance though, except for one-night-stands of course.
     
  2. Perspicacity

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    The Stainless Steel Rat in Azkaban. (Crossover with Harry Harrison's epic series, The Stainless Steel Rat).

    The Stainless Steel Rat finds himself in 1993 England and, much to his surprise, learns that he's a wizard (though a near-Squib). This opens a new dimension to his activities. He intentionally allows himself to get caught in order to be sent to Azkaban to learn from the masters of crime. While there, he is disappointed to learn that the true masters are either Dementor-kissed, driven mad, or, like Mundugus Fletcher, are never caught. He eventually befriends Sirius Black and the two escape. They part ways afterwards, but stay in touch.

    When the Order of the Phoenix is reassembled, Dumbledore originally proposes that they retain Mundungus Fletcher for his contacts in the magical underworld, but Sirius convinces him to go with someone more reliable, a criminal genius constitutionally unable to be beaten.

    Oh, the Stainless Steel Rat happens upon a Time Turner. That idea right there is just made of awesome.
     
  3. Sirius Issues

    Sirius Issues First Year

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    A little idea bounced into my head today. I was thinking a Harry Potter loosely based around lord of war, the Nicholas cage film. Harry runs away from the Dursley's house and eventually gets caught up in selling wands/potions/enchanted items to other countries. Eva Fontain could be Fleur. The African Warlord could be Voldemort. I also like the idea of the ministry selling items like that to other nations as a source of revenue. As I said it has only just popped into my mind and requires some working.
     
  4. Rin

    Rin Oberstgruppenführer DLP Supporter

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    HP meets Historical Linguistics (a.k.a. Philology): Although language does not seem to matter as far as spell incantations go in HP, what if they did? Latin is a "degraded" form of Italic, which is a "degraded" form of Proto-Indo-European (PIE). One of the most powerful spells in HP, Avada Kedavra is Aramaic (a Semitic language), not Latin. What if, by some weird chance, Harry is somehow exposed to PIE studies, and discovers that rather than Latin, a spell incanted in PIE is far more powerful. Supposedly the killing curse is unblockable, but what if a simple protego incanted as perstegoa suddenly stops anything and everything, including a killing curse, in its path?

    What if Harry decides to research Aramaic and creates a spell that brings back the dead? If an Aramaic spell drops you dead, then one can raise you back, maybe? (In before Jesus was a wizard)
     
  5. Hashasheen

    Hashasheen Half-Blood Prince

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    That's just lame.

    I'd like to see a crack fic where sucicidal! Harry enter the Tri-wizard Tournament, intent on killing himself. Maybe he gets wind of Sirius getting caught and Kissed over the summer? He keeps trying to off himself, only to get ahead of everyone else in the challenges.
     
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  6. Memory King

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    Wouldn't Suicidal!Harry just end up under 'Moody's' Imperius?
     
  7. meatzman2

    meatzman2 Backtraced

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    I'm thinking suicidal Harry along the lines of Marvin from Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, so depressed that when Moody tries to imperius Harry, he in turn gets so depressed at how pointless it all is.

    Moody's posture slumped, his whole body seemed to sag,

    "Thank you Mr. Potter, and this class is the death curse. Avada Kedavra." A thump and then the only noise was the quiet sound of a wand rolling out of dead fingers.
     
  8. Grubdubdub

    Grubdubdub Supreme Mugwump

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    That's plain bad. Not to mention all the numerous plotholes, having a super!Harry through the study of language is just lame.

    Not if he heard Sirius die after that particular class. I think the best time for him to hear would be near the time Moody calls him to see if he got a strategy [while seeing what was the impact of the rumor or actual death] and Harry saying that he got a plan that couldn't go wrong. That's could be a cool oneshot, by the way.
     
  9. Othalan

    Othalan Headmaster DLP Supporter

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    Lol. Graveyard scene:

    Voldemort: *Gloating*

    Harry: Just kill me already!

    Voldemort: Huh?

    Harry: What, are you deaf? Give me a bit of the old Avada- whoa! *Harry trips over the cup, activating the portkey*

    Dumbledore: Harry, are you alright?

    Harry: Aww, you've gotta be fucking kidding me!
     
  10. Hashasheen

    Hashasheen Half-Blood Prince

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    LoL! :awesome
     
  11. Naja

    Naja Fourth Year

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    Alternate ending for the Chamber of Secrets. Basically, Harry kills Riddle, but without destroying the diary. He ends up keeping it and learning from it.

    Like Snape's potions book, Riddle's diary should have some cool spells and shit in it. Not to mention Harry would learn about Riddle himself.

    Harry would progress realistically, no cliched knowledge transfer and the appearance of Sirius would motivate him to study it. He wanted revenge after all.
     
  12. Grubdubdub

    Grubdubdub Supreme Mugwump

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    You do realize that the diary is blank and that it will stay that way if Riddle really died.
     
  13. Naja

    Naja Fourth Year

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    The diary was a sentimental object, which was why he used it as a Horcrux (literally pouring his heart and soul into it).

    I would have thought the diary was originally full of writing, only becoming blank after he turned it into a Horcrux.

    Yeah, my theory is full of wholes. I might but some more effort into thinking about it later, I'm sure there is a way to make it more plausible.
     
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  14. Rin

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    But not full of rational, irrational or imaginary numbers? Pshaw.
     
  15. Naja

    Naja Fourth Year

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    Woops :p.

    Spelling mistakes aside, do you have any thoughts on the plot bunny?
     
  16. Rin

    Rin Oberstgruppenführer DLP Supporter

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    Could be an interesting launch of an early-start!indy!Harry (which always seems to begin in 4th or 5th year.

    My only concern here is that it smacks heavily of the cliche shopping trip in diagon alley where he buys half a library's worth of books and becomes an ubermenche overnight. So long as the author was careful not to let it get out of hand. Maybe let him have an edge, but a realistic one - not too much of one.

    Snapes book didn't make Harry a potions genius. It just gave him an edge that students using other books wouldn't have had.

    Maybe instead of spells, it really reads like an actual diary:

    An entry like this could be invaluable, leading Harry not only straight to the books he needs, but later entries could also give tips and tricks for Harry that the books neglected to mention, but that Riddle found.

    The diary might also give details about Riddle's life that help Harry understand his enemy far better - his motivations, his fears, his weaknesses, some of his strengths.
     
  17. Perspicacity

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    How about when Harry stabs the diary with the fang, it destroys the Riddle spirit and sentience, but the interaction between the two soul fragments causes the magic of the diary to rush up his arm and be absorbed (along with its contents) by Harry.

    I like Rin's suggestion that this process doesn't give Harry superpowers, but rather it periodically shares pages of Riddle's life in diary entry form. Early on, Harry's exposed merely to Riddle's words, but later, as Riddle's knowledge grows, Harry gains images and experiences (the diary, as we know from canon, had Pensieve qualities toward the end of Riddle's seventh year).

    This is a premise for a story that has lots of possibilities; the key would be to figure out where to go with it from here. One idea (similar in some respects to Master Slytherin's excellent novel) might be for Harry to start to understand Riddle at a much deeper level than canon.

    Riddle may initially be a sympathetic, lonely character with whom Harry identifies and realizes he can learn a lot. Harry could appreciate early on Riddle's pragmatism and ambition, two qualities that Harry lacks. He could recognize Riddle's brilliance and what an opportunity Harry's squandering.

    He could see just how much control Dumbledore has wielded over the magical knowledge of the most recent generations (Occlumency, Dark Arts, and Magical Ritual books, e.g., have been removed from the Hogwarts library, presumably by the Headmaster). Early on, Harry could learn to recognize Dumbledore's manipulations and distrust the man. He could enter into a quiet, covert power struggle at Hogwarts with the Headmaster. He could see the value in building a cadre of loyal followers. Dumbledore, in turn, could start to distrust Harry because he sees him not as the naive, pliant boy he once was, but as a growing threat.

    A third year where Harry employs guilt and blackmail against Lupin could be entertaining. A fourth year may have Harry recognizing the Triwizard Tournament for what it is--a golden opportunity to cement his status on the world's magical stage and to exercise freedoms available only to Champions on his path to greatness. A fifth year (provided Harry doesn't join Voldemort) could see Harry consolidating his power via the opportunity granted him by the Ministry's appointment of an incompetent.

    Lots of possibilities abound. The trick will be to come up with a tight story (along the lines of Master Slytherin's) and not the mess that Partially Kissed Hero grew into.
     
  18. Naja

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    Well that was certainly thorough :).

    Rin: That was exactly what I had in mind. I see what you mean about the Diagon Alley cliche, defiantly something to avoid. He would progress quite quickly, as he would be motivated (3rd year Revenge; 4th Year Tri-Wizard).

    Pers: Many brilliant ideas there. I don't see Harry going truly evil, but he would defiantly be more self-serving. For example, he wouldn't directly blackmail Lupin, but he would use the guilt you mentioned against him. The power struggle with Dumbledore would be, I think, one of the most interesting aspects of the story, but also the most challenging to write. At least for me :p. I'll give it a go though.

    Haven't read Master Slytherin's work, I'll do that now to pass the time.

    Edit: For Riddle to die with the diary intact, perhaps he could fully absorb Ginny, thus killing her and becoming fully corporeal. Riddle walks right up to Harry, who he thinks is dying from the poison and Harry promptly stabs him with the fang.
     
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  19. ParseltonguePhoenix

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    I'm wondering what a Harry raised by Pettigrew might look like.

    Say Peter accompanies Voldemort to Godric's Hollow the night he offs James and Lily, and attacks Harry. Once Voldemort's spell rebounds and his body is destroyed, Pettigrew could either run and frame Sirius before going into hiding as a rat, or take Harry, frame Sirius, and escape to somewhere outside of the influence of both Dumbledore and the Ministry. He could take Harry and Voldemort's wand, for example.

    He could either want to raise the child who offed the most powerful Dark Lord in British history and have his power that way (think Dumorne's raising of Dresden and Elaine to become his magical thugs) or through some twisted attack of conscience he could see it as his responsibility to raise the child of the friends he betrayed.

    Probably not realistic at all, but I think it'd be interesting to see a Harry raised unknowingly by the man who betrayed his parents to their deaths.
     
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  20. Skeletaure

    Skeletaure Magical Core Enthusiast ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    I just remembered an awesome idea that I came up with a while back and posted in another thread.

    Think of it as Borg!Harry. Or deity!Harry.

    Basically, after CoS, when Harry destroys the diary, due to the fact that Harry's soul was in contact with Riddle's, which was in contact with Ginny, and also due to that in this AU Riddle has successfully killed Ginny, Harry ends up with his soul "spread" between his and dead Ginny's body, his soul filling the gap that destroying Riddle made.

    Ginny is no more. This isn't a soul bond fic. Basically, Harry is now one person with two bodies. Two sets of perception, two brains to think with, two physical manifestations to act with.

    At first Harry is shocked, and doesn't really understand. He keeps accidentally moving Ginny's arm every time he wants to move his own etc. It takes a while to learn to multi task on that level. But he instinctively hides that fact that Ginny is dead and he can control her body, not wanting people to judge him, not wanting to tell the Weasleys that their daughter IS dead, and not really knowing what's going on.

    Harry then has the whole summer to get to grips with his new state of being, and begins to master it, and use it two its full potential (one person with two brains = very clever).

    The story would progress with Harry developing a magical technique that replicates this process and slowly gaining more bodies. Eventually he has loads and is practically a diety. Unkillable, because if you kill one body there are always the others, multi-present, extremely clever and able to process information very quickly, and so on.

    So yeah, Borg Harry.

    I had in the other thread some interesting ideas of how Harry could accidentally gain a few more bodies first before deciding to deliberately go about gaining bodies, which is quite the step. I think one idea is Sirius Black gets kissed and Harry then ends up with his body too.

    As he gets more bodies he becomes less and less human in the way he thinks, and this leads to him deciding to deliberately continue to spread.

    The plot could then go in several directions.
     
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