I always thought it has a really long incantation, so that makes it a bit unwieldy...

 

This idea wouldn't get out of my head. Sorry if something similar has been posted. Anyways:

What if Voldemort didn't plan on making Harry a horcrux? Having already fulfilled his seven soul fragment quota, he had no intention of doing anything but killing the boy that night. When things go wrong, an eight horcrux is born.

This could be elaborated on in a number of ways, the most obvious being at the Hogwarts battle. Perhaps nobody but Voldemort knew that Harry was the seventh horcrux and not the sixth. So Voldemort escapes as a spirit again, delaying what should have been the war's end. Then the Hogwarts survivors are forced to create their own army to combat the recovering Dark Lord.

So yeah. That's been bugging me for most of the day.

 

Voldemort didn't plan on making Harry a horcrux.

 

Ah, man. Mistake.

Idea could still be used in some way though.

 

Shezza did that, right (somewhat)? Most awesome ending scene ever.

 

Dunno, I don't think I've read any of Shezza's works yet.

 

Fix it.

/filler

 

Anyone ever thought about a Dune universe/Harry Potter fusion? It came to me with the whole 'most ancient and noble house' thing that each series seem to have in common.

House Potter, Dumbledore, Malfoy, Weasley, Greengrass, etc...

 

The ancient and noble house thing is fanon. And a particularly cliched and irksome piece of fanon to boot.

IIRC, aside from 'old families' like the Weasleys, Malfoys, and so on, the only literal 'Moste Ancient and Noble House' was the Black family. And tbh that came across mostly as arrogant, superficial, wizarding upper-class posturing.

My dick's bigger than your dick; my family tree's bigger than your family tree.

Canon: pissing contest. Fanon: indy!Harry done to death.


On the other hand, taking aspects of Dune into the Potterverse...

A messianic leader in Harry, quasi-brainwashed supersoldiers, large-scale political and military warfare taking advantage of extreme geography, and so on...

That all has potential. Potential which I like.

Potter characters transplanted into the Dune universe wouldn't be too big a difference - half of the sci-fi technobabble and psycho-mysticism is close enough to magic compared to modern life as it is. It would be a renaming of characters and deterioration in quality of writing more than anything else, unless someone incredibly talented and original managed to pull it off.

 

The Order of the Phoenix disagrees with you, it seems.

 

Sure, but he was still planning to use Harry's death to make one, so the plot bunny is still canonically valid (i.e. the idea of Voldemort having 7 horcruxes and not 6 because Harry is an unknown extra still works).

Nope, he notes this:

What he is dismissing as fanon is the idea that there are other families with titles like this, or that it is some kind of common thing among Purebloods, rather than just something the Blacks called themselves because of their egos.

The same with with "Dark Lords" really. In canon, Voldemort was the only Dark Lord. Ever. Grindelwald is described as a Dark wizard, not Lord. Loads of fics treat "Dark Lord" as some kind of title for the baddest Dark wizard of the age, but canonically, Voldemort was the first.

/tangent.

 

Who was it that said that when technology reaches a certain level, it's indistinguishable from magic?

That I could see, actually. Even if he himself is unwilling/reluctant, Harry having a troupe of fanatical followers/guardians that were willing to do anything, anything (including killing for him or his cause without him knowing) for him would be pretty awesome, especially if it's shown how they eventually develop into that mindset over the course of the storyline.

It would be especially interesting if they were characters that normally would be against this sort of blind following, e.g., Hermione with logic and her blind trust in authority figures, Tonks because of her duties/morales as an DMLE Auror, etc.

Anyhoot, while the 'noble and ancient house' outside of Black thing is fanon (and agreed, irksome fanon at that: no 'Noble House of Potter/Bones/Malfoy', for example), pure blood families could easily be adapted into the roles of Dune noble houses.

For example, House Weasley? Their planet has a poor GDP outcome, and trade mostly in food supplies. They value trust, honesty, family, etc.

You can imagine what the Malfoys would be like.

 

Isn't that just Dumbledore's suspicion?

 

Can't recall. Even if it is:

1. Dumbledore is word of God. Recall the idea of Voldemort having make 6 horcruxes was just Dumbledore's suspicion as well.

2. It's a suspicion validated by the fact that Voldemort's soul was in the state necessary to turn Harry into a quasi-horcrux.

 

Well, at that point, ol'Voldemort's soul was probably so unstable from being constantly broken into chunks, that the strain from Harry's mother's protections probably and rather unexpectantly sheered off a piece of his soul like how someone poking a broken biscuit would shatter that biscuit.

 

Seems like the kind of thing Voldemort would create a horcrux from, though. Destroying what he thought was the only thing capable of stopping him? Oh yeah, definite horcrux bait right there. Besides, before that there were only five horcruxes (diary, ring, cup, locket and diadem), so Voldemort would have been using the symbol of his ultimate victory as the fuel for his last horcrux (six + his original soul). It's a reasonable enough assumption, and logical to boot, to think that Voldemort intended Harry to fuel the creation of his last horcrux, though I can't think of what item he thought to use to house the fragment.

 

I do not think an item was mentioned, if there was one...plot hole, perhaps?

 

A plot hole is something that is contradictory, illogical or impossible, or an inconsistency. Obvious missing relevant information can be plot holes too, but in this case it's not a plot hole as whatever Voldemort was planning to use isn't all that related to the plot. It's just another thing we don't know about.

 

Ah, I see.