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Plot Bunny Thread

Discussion in 'Fanfic Discussion' started by Skeletaure, Apr 17, 2009.

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  1. Nooblet

    Nooblet Sixth Year DLP Supporter

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    Sounds like a magical version of The Three Stooges
     
  2. Admonkeystrator

    Admonkeystrator Seventh Year

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    Multi!Voldemort is just a big fucking Slash fic waiting to happen.

    Kill the idea with fire.
     
  3. Striker

    Striker What's up demons?

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    Everything involving male characters is a big fucking slash fic waiting to happen. But the fact that that is the first thing that came to mind when you were presented with the idea of multiple Voldemorts is a bit disturbing.
     
  4. Oz

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    Dunno if this has been mentioned yet or not because this thread has gone to shit and I barely skim it these days. but Erised Burning has a fic where the horcruxes are 'revived' by Voldemort. It was a good read way back when.

    http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3127161/1/Blessed
     
  5. Admonkeystrator

    Admonkeystrator Seventh Year

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    lol. Hardly the first thing, but it is what I ended up posting.
    Everything in the HP verse ends up as a slash fic, so it's a fair bet multi-mort would too.
     
  6. T3t

    T3t Purple Beast of DLP ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    Multi-Voldemort, according to his canon personality, would just end up killing each other off and make it useless as a plot device. If you made them less insane and capable of cooperating (i.e. not going on retarded Prisoner's Dilemma/Game Theory loop) then they'd be way too powerful and the author would likely have to resort to a deus ex machina to destroy them, or some other terrible plot device. So the idea is rather pointless.
     
  7. The Arid Legion

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    Wrong. It was, and still is, a fucking awesome read.
     
  8. inspiratieloos

    inspiratieloos Muggle

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    My 'strokes of genius': Vernon has no idea that magic exists, Petunia was ashamed of what her sister was and thus the only thing she told him was that she and Lily didn't get along. When Petunia finds Harry she realises that they will be forced to take him in (due to what is in the letter), she just tells Vernon that her sister has been murdered and that they'll be taking in their nephew as the only living relatives.

    There is no reason for Vernon to treat Harry different than Dudley and Petunia can hardly go around treating Harry differently 'for no reason', that wouldn't be normal after all. They won't have to spoil Dudley as a contrast to Harry either, thus Dudley becomes a very different person and Harry's accidental magic is less often and less noticeable. Even when Petunia finds out Harry has done magic and for some reason decides to actually tell Vernon, you can hardly go around to suddenly hating the nephew that you treated like a son for years (what would the neighbours say).

    This would probably work best from Petunia's POV because Harry's Hogwarts time wouldn't be that different.

    The second: Piers Polkiss gets a Hogwarts letter, he goes to Hogwarts. When he finds out Harry-the-punchbag is the Harry Potter it is too late to flee (either just before 1 September, on the train or in the Great Hall just before the sorting). There is no interaction between Piers and Harry (and Piers parents and the Dursleys) before they are at Hogwarts. What happens?

    Third: Similar to the above. Hermione (or one of the other muggleborns, or an OC) lives at Privet Drive, or close enough to be in the same school/class as Harry. This does not mean they are friends, Hermione already has no real friends and she doesn't want to be outright hated by associating with Harry, the teachers also don't like him so she knows better than to talk to him.
    Then comes her introduction to the magical world and she finds out she actually knows the famous Boy-Who-Lived. The only problem, she has ruined any chance of becoming Harry's friend (at least at first) because of her behaviour over the last 10 years...
     
  9. Alindrome

    Alindrome A bigger, darker mark DLP Supporter Retired Staff

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    Your second idea could actually be pretty funny if done right. The first could be interesting, but has no real story to it, and the third seems like the setup to a bad H/Hr story.
     
  10. Mutt

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    Actually, they all pretty much suck. The first one isn't a plot/story idea, it's a justification for changing Harry's home life. That rarely turns out well.

    I don't see anything happening with the second beyond Harry thinking "That dude was a dick, but who cares about him anymore?" and Piers- I don't know what he'd do because he has no real established personality outside of being Dudley's sidekick.

    The third, basically what Palindrome said. And it seems out of character for Hermione. If she hated everyone the teachers did, then why would she help Neville as often as she does? More likely, she'd help Harry if they grew up together. Which would, of course, lead to an even worse H/Hr fic.
     
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  11. T3t

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    It wouldn't be necessity lead to a bad H/Hr fic - there are people who could undoubtedly pull it off, but it's not a plot. What exactly happens in the story apart from the two of them knowing each other earlier? I can't really imagine any creative divergence, but I'm sure somebody could think of something clever.
     
  12. Psychotic Cat

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    After much screwing around, little progress and a hard drive failure I'm posting this here. Let people who can actually write be inspired by it. Or laugh at it, that would work too I guess.

    Crossover between HP and Dresden set in an au that is basically dresdenverse, except with the addition of some hp characters/events, though changed to fit the dresden verse.



    Voldemort was basically a cult leader with a vision of shaping the world into a magocracy.

    Instead of going after Potter over a prophecy, he's attempting to recruit James/Lily, behaves a typically Voldemort fashion and overestimates his ability to withstand two death curses when they're not eager to join him, Potter gets taken in by his godfather Sirius.

    Potter leads a relatively uneventful childhood and trains under Sirius. The story starts as Potter is finishing his apprenticeship and meets Albus Dumbledore, leader of the Order of the Phoenix. I figured that could go two ways, Dumbledore contacting Potter on his own or Sirius introducing him/having already introduced him but Harry only being introduced to the Order once he finishes his apprenticeship.

    Dumbledore, personality wise is basically canon Dumbledore mixed with a dash of Charles Xavier. Power wise I figure he'd be senior council level, but due to various idealogical differences, he stays away from the council. The Order would be dedicated to finding young people as their powers emerge and protecting people from the supernatural more than the council is unwilling to. In terms of the OotPs place in the Dresdenverse, they'd be something like the Venatori Umbrorum/Fellowship of St Giles, though probably not so large.

    The founders of Hogwarts never actually finished starting Hogwarts, they were four young revolutionaries who disagreed with the way the white council did things. They attempted to start what would eventually have been HP-verse wizarding society based around Hogwarts.. but never actually got that far before being executed for gross violations of the third law.

    I guess they wouldn't be hugely noteworthy but they're a big enough part of HPverse that I wanted to work them in and they serve as a decent inspiration for Dumbledore dreaming of a great school of magic(Because it's just hard to imagine Dumbledore without Hogwarts).


    I worked the timeline out as Storm Front is set in 2000, with Dresden being 25 and Potter Being 20 and the story starting up after the war with the red court breaks out.

    Plotline wise, Potters childhood/apprenticeship could be skipped/glossed over or dealt with in a prologue. The first story arc I had planned basically focused on the red court war and character development, small enough in the grand scheme of things to not affect the events of the Dresden Files until the eventual point of divergence where Potter/Dresden cross paths.
     
  13. Oruma

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    Thinking about altering some characters in my current fic.
    The latest idea is Fascist!Amelia Bones.
    Suggestions, please?

    something from last month.
     
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  14. Genghiz Khan

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    I liked your idea, Psychotic Cat. It could work if given enough time and effort. However, do give me a few details here. How would Potter go by his life here? Will he know Dresden? How does wand magic fit in? And what political stance will the order have against the various vampire courts? Does the grey council agree with the motives and actions of the order (when the story gets there)? Is Dresden going to be an antagonist here? I doubt I'd go ahead with this story now, but the I could use some parts of what you say.
     
  15. Lindsey

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    Psychotic Cat, I love your idea because just a few days ago I thought of a plot very similar to yours except it's Dresden going to Hogwarts.

    Dresden is 25 sometime between 2000-2003 and Harry would be 23 in 2003.

    I was thinking that Dresden, after what happens to his uncle either flees, or gets sent to Hogwarts in Harry's forth year. Dresden would be in his 5th year (as he has to take his OWLS) and a Gryffindor.

    I was thinking the two Harrys could team up given the situation, Dresden needing to learn Hogwarts-esque spells and Harry just needing something to win the Triwizard cup.

    In this world, both sets of wizards are the same and at the beginning most the Wizards were more Harry Potter-esque than Dresden-esque. The founders were once apart of the High Council that were fed up with the way things were being run and unable to get permission to make the school. They end up leaving the High council with many of it's lower ranking members.

    The council hates the betrayal and over the years tries to get the community of wizards to join them until total war breaks out between the two communities in 1700s with the founding of the British Ministry of Magic. The Council loses because of the overwhelming numbers and new spells. The British Ministry of Magic bans everything to do with the council, summonings and pretty much anything related to Dresden's magic.

    Wandmakers are kept in total secrecy and therefore, outside the hidden wizard communities, wands do not exist. Dresden-magic is developed with help from the Native American tribes and other cultures who used magic for eons.

    Dunno if this would work, but I like finding out new ways to compare the two worlds. The more I look into each series, the more ways I realize they are similar.
     
  16. Aekiel

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    Obviously you've never read the books. The Dresdenverse system of magic is fundamentally incompatible with that of the HPverse. Even if you insert the idea of magical energy into HP magic you've still got the problem of standardised forms of spellcasting, gigantic holes in HP wizards breaking the Laws without consequence (legilimancy and obliviation being the two most obvious ones) and wands not being anything more than foci in the Dresdenverse, where focus-less magic is wholly possible.

    Simply put, if you go the route of merging the two magic systems you run into immediate road blocks that make the idea all but impossible without completely destroying at least one of the magic systems, and probably both.
     
  17. Lindsey

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    Actually, I have managed to come up with ideas for most of the things you just said.

    Legilimancy and Obliviation are the only two things I need to work on to make it work. I would be changing a few things from both systems, but I think I might be able to get it to work.

    I just didn't post everything because it would have been a monstrous post.

    Most of it is how you learn magic and how you believe in it.
     
  18. Admonkeystrator

    Admonkeystrator Seventh Year

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    I have a bunny involving Ron and his Jealousy issues, believe it or not.

    Instead of the usual "target HP at all costs!" thing alot of people have going, a blood supremist, last of his family and completely sterile... Needs to kidnap someone for a forced "blood adoption" ritual.

    It strikes me that, an actual blood supremist, would not target the last of the potters/blacks but would also be loathe to use a muggleborn..
    Ron is the ideal choice.. He's 6th in line or whatever, to take over the Weasley family.
    * Overshadowed by all of his older brothers
    * One of many kids
    etc etc... all the cliche's associated with Ron in fanon.

    So Ron becomes a well-to-do, or wealthy heir and the story develops from there.
     
  19. Jormungandr

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    God no.

    /characters.
     
  20. Styx0444

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    I'm out of thumbs, but this.

    Harry Potter/The Suffering crossover. Could it be done well? I'm leaning towards no, but...
     
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