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Pokemon Fan Games

Discussion in 'Pokémon' started by Alindrome, Sep 4, 2011.

  1. BTT

    BTT Viol̀e͜n̛t͝ D̶e͡li͡g҉h̛t҉s̀ ~ Prestige ~

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    Played another fangame. This time, I played Phoenix Rising (thread here)

    It's got all the usual conceits: new Megas, regional variants, and some other things. In terms of plot it seems fairly typical from what I've played so far: go on a journey through Hawthorne. The plot is apparently just "get to Hawthorne University". No League as far as I know, which means no Gyms.

    I feel like it has to be said: This game is super pretty. Like whoah. It looks amazing. The maps are all elaborate, each town has its completely own tileset, etc. It all looks good, and there's clearly been a lot of effort put into graphical design of the region, the Pokemon, and more.

    But it also tends to lag pretty badly for me. Might just be my trashpile laptop, but the devs moved from Pokemon Essentials (RPGMaker XP(?) package which most fangames are made in) to something else explicitly to avoid Essentials' issues, but I've had far less problem with Essentials games. This other engine does have the additional effect of letting you press "Z" to double or even triple battle speed, but honestly, I'd rather that button not have to be there at all. Also it doesn't remember your speed across battles, which is really a shame.

    Another downside is the fact that the game is as wordy as it is pretty. It opens with a long intro of talking to an old "soothsayer", having to find his tea so he can continue rambling at you about random stuff, finding your mother to have her give you the tea leaves which results in her rambling at you about her ex-husband inviting you to come live with him at the University blah blah blah. It takes like half an hour (if you don't start clicking past the dialogue) before you finally get to choose a fucking Pokemon. It's way too much. Just let me play already, like damn.

    Also, I'm not much of a fan of what's actually done with those words. There's a whole quest where a girl whose sister was lost in the spooooky woods as a kid and never found gets a Phantump. It could be handled much more subtly: the game's beating you over the head with it, even though the character herself doesn't seem to know. It's not as outright edgy as Reborn (hooooo boy, the stories I could tell) or even Insurgence, but it still took me out of it.

    tl;dr: On one hand, pretty as hell. On the other, way too wordy and laggy. Can't really recommend.
     
  2. Villanelle

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    Stopped playing after Gen III, but I did get back into Pokemon and played a few hacks over the last ten years or so, but only sporadically.

    I tried Zeta/Omicron and dropped it quickly in favour of Insurgence, which was a real blast. Most of the Pokemon were absolute unknowns to me, and I've since spent an inordinate amount of time on Bulbapedia and Smogon.

    Over the past few days, I've started and finished what's available of Pokemon Gaia. Beat the E4 with Azumarill, Infernape, Gengar and Jolteon.

    I never put too much thought into my teams, often playing with what I thought to be strong/cool Pokemon, and would sweep through FR/LG with Charizard and Gyarados, and add on Aerodactyl, Zapdos and maybe Alakazam before the E4. So, this run-through Gaia was a lot of fun, but it got a bit too easy too quick.

    The idea of having a lead PKMN setup with spikes or calm mind and baton pass had never occurred to me. While I see the appeal, I still have a preference for fast attackers and potentially a tank. I'm simple like that.

    @Seratin

    It's been a few months. Thoughts on Renegade Platinum?

    I've heard it's the most polished of Drayano's hacks, and as such, I'm starting with Storm Silver. I haven't wrapped my head around the 3D yet, and I've spent the past few hours being indecisive about what kind of team to go for. I don't think I've been this neurotic about anything in months. So far, I've narrowed my choices down to Houndour, Flareon, Espeon, Natu, Murkrow, Spiritomb and Swablu, all of which are available rather early. Not keen on Ralts at all, as I've used it a lot in RSE and most recently in Insurgence, and besides, there's no fairy type.
     
  3. MonkeyEpoxy

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    I'm a huge fan of all of Drayano's hacks. There's nothing too weird added in, the stat changes he employs for pokemon are balanced to each other and make most pokemon worth using, and I like the difficulty curves of them. I'm playing Renegade Platinum right now and I have games progressing in Storm Silver, Blaze Black 2, and Volt White. Monotype runs are fun - it lets me pretend to be a Tamerverse character
     
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    If I want to try these Drayano hacks, what programs do I need?
     
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    My computer works fine for word processing and browsing, but DeSmuME lags a fair bit. Tried to Drastic on my phone on a whim, and it works surprisingly well. I've been playing Sacred Gold/Storm Silver on it, and while my hand cramps every now and then from the awkward positioning (...), it gets the job done.

    There's even a speed boost option.

    It's insane that DS emulation works better on my shitty Chinese phone than on my computer. I'm so behind with the times.
     
  7. Alindrome

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    Tamerverse? That sounds like it could be interesting. Is there any good fanfiction involved? :D
     
  8. pbluekan

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    Does anyone know any way to download the roms onto a DS? Or somehow access it’s memory? I’ve got my Pokémon 20th anniversary edition DS that I only ever use to play heart gold and the original Red version that came loaded on it.
     
  9. MonkeyEpoxy

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    IIRC you have to have a flash card for it. Acekard 2 is a great one for the standard DS. I loved mine back in the day - the nintendo DS games are so tiny you can just get a 32gb microSD for the card and just have a shit ton of games.
     
  10. Villanelle

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    Has anyone tried Pokemon Empyrean?

    It's rather good, reminds me of Insurgence. At the moment, there's about 50-ish hours of gameplay and access to the first eight gyms. It reminds me a bit of Insurgence, in that there are "delta" pokemon and there's a plot beyond collecting badges. There are lots of mini sidequests that are actually interesting, like controlling a lost Ratata and having it find its way towards its owner. There's nifty little features like item crafting (egg yolk + egg shell = lucky egg), a Safari Zone for EV training and lots of new items.

    The stand-out Delta so far has been an electric/flying type Tailow/Swellow.
     
  11. Otters

    Otters Seventh Year ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    I've been playing 4chan's Pokemon Clover. Muchly fun, with pokemon resembling a drop of cum, terrorist bomb, and KFC showing up so far.
     
  12. BTT

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    Just beat Pokemon Empyrean, an RPGMaker game set in an original region. It's a dumpsterfire that's occasionally fun.

    The storyline is, simply put, ass. The "empyrean" in the title refers to psychic super-aliens who went against Arceus, were incinerated by divine judgement, and the survivors came to the Pokemon world. Time travel is involved, more than just as a side thing: after beating the 8th Gym you head out to tackle one of these Empyreans yourself by heading into the desolate future of 3023, where half of the population is cyborgs and the other half is people fused with their Pokemans. There's lots of OCs and timeline fuckery so there's more than one of some OCs and god they all suck.

    Onto the gameplay. It's the usual Pokemon stuff, with some additional mechanics:
    • Generation Power ("GP") is a hereditary measure of how superperfect your mons are. I'm not certain what it actually does but apparently the more GP the better your mon. You get GP by breeding and luck - except for Genderless mons, which can just be fused and are therefore probably easier to maximize. But then there's plenty of mons that you get only one of, so they can't ever reach the heights the others do.
    • There's big boss monsters with 3000 HP and beyond. They're immune to statuses but not to Leech Seed, mostly, so Venusaur fucks their shit right up no questions asked. They're annoying, mostly, and it was only super late game that they got challenging.
    • Cards are something you can equip to your 'mon, in addition to a regular item. Each card is for a specific species, and boosts that mon's stats by 1.25x/1.5x/2x, depending on the card's rarity. This means that your stats go through the roof if you've got the right card, but getting that right card is grindy as fuck. Booster Packs can only be bought right before the 7th Gym and have an 1% chance to drop in the wild, so good luck getting the ones you want before that. Even then they cost $400,000 in Pokebucks, so best get grinding money. And those Booster Packs contain only three cards, which depend on your savefile. At least cards sell for a shitload. In-game card trading is worthless.
    • Having said that, money can actually be gotten pretty easily with "Apriplums", which are like berries that just heal HP. More importantly, if you use an Apriplum it gives you a seed, which you can then plant and water. Apriplums, once planted, can offer new flavours (depending on original) and so if you consult a growing guide you'll be raking in the cash in no time. But that still takes 3000 steps at a time, and occasional wandering to get Fresh Waters to water your cashplant. Decent idea, bad execution.
    • There's new Mega Evolutions, which are mostly just recolors of existing mons, and which are given out slapdash. Typhlosion gets a Fusion version which looks ugly as sin but has 970 BST. Feraligatr gets told to fuck off, as does Meganium.
    • Fusion Evolutions are Megas but they also get a 1-PP unique move which deals mucho damage. And, as mentioned, insane BSTs. Downside: if that mon faint while fused, you also faint, so the battle's over. I wouldn't really call it "strategic", though.
    • Some things just aren't in the game. I tried to get a Mamoswine but he couldn't get Ice Shard, so I had to scrap those plans. There's no Return TM in the game, as far as I know, and half of the Mega stones are missing. No Z-moves, no Dynamax.
    • Shinies get 1.1x stats, but later you can shinify your mons for a million pokebucks, so whatever. There's also "double shinies" which are called Platinums, but they looking boring as sin, even if they get an additional stat boost. Shinies are also sometimes original, meaning my Kingdra, Thetis, looks dope as hell.
    • There's a dating sidequest which just kinda ends. Either go full hog or don't go, writers.
    • The Data-type suuuuuucks. It's immune to a shitload of types - Grass, Poison, Steel, Fighting, Rock, Ground, Dragon, and more - and if it gets hit with an Electric attack its SpA is going to go through the fucking roof. Porygons are somehow deadly beasts that can sweep an entire team if you're not careful.
    • There's also a new Light type, which is rare enough that it doesn't matter, and one mon gets an original Electrolight type for some reason.
    • There's other mechanics which I could discuss: crafting (mostly useless), Poke-Kata which let you beat up trainers who challenged you and escape their clutches (discarded now?), all HMs being replaced entirely with items...
    So yeah. A lot of new mechanics, most of which require grinding on your part to use but not on the computer's part, leading to more and more inequality in what you've got available as the game goes along. I had to switch to Easy on the near-final boss because it drained 50% HP automatically of every mon before the battle even started and then blocked off items on Normal Mode. Miss me with that shit, please.

    Only really recommended if you've got time to waste and no strong feelings about RPGM and the things mentioned above.
     
  13. KHAAAAAAAN!!

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    Been enjoying the heck out of Pokémon Insurgence. The Dark storyline is actually half decent and they've got the bugs down to a bare minimum.

    It's been a great time waster during long boring conference calls. The music slaps too.
     
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