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Pottermore Discussion

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Another Empty Frame, Jun 16, 2011.

  1. Brazilian_Wizard

    Brazilian_Wizard Muggle

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    I'm sorry, I mistook western and eastern (I always do that). My intention was to say that Eastern Europe wizards and witches attend Dursmstrang. I will correct it on my post.
     
  2. wordhammer

    wordhammer Dark Lord DLP Supporter

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    Normally I don't bother quoting the material, but this bit is just... I dunno, charming?

    Enjoy

     
  3. Stokbrood

    Stokbrood First Year

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    You know, it's things like these that make me fall in love with the series all over again!
     
  4. Erotic Adventures of S

    Erotic Adventures of S Denarii Host

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    Another Bump.

    So I still check in on Pottermore every month or so, a few new bits up, some chapters were opened a couple of months back, and they seem to be going back and adding new content and refreshing old content to encourage you re revisit old areas.

    While I enjoy Pottermore, I find it something you can only enjoy once really. And while I do like the additional information, and that she is putting it out there for free, in some ways it seems she is just crow barring stuff in after the fact.

    I didnt like her saying Dumbledore was gay, not because I dont like him being gay, I think it would have been fantastic... if it had come out in the books, not afterwards, there was opportunity in DH with Ritas back story of him.

    I prefer reading historical bits and pieces like Remus being bitten, as that's not something I would expect to see in the books but is interesting to read about.

    What would you like to see covered in future updates? Flitwick is a character I was always interested in, as he was hinted at having a cool story line.
     
  5. Peter North

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    Personally I'd like to see some more back story on certain death eaters when they start book 5. But I agree it is kind of irritating to have to keep going back to reread previous chapters on pottermore. It also doesn't help that I have a slower internet connection which make surfing that site a pain.
     
  6. Erotic Adventures of S

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    It would be nice if they had something like a journal where you could rapidly access all the extra info, rather than trying to find the right chapters.
     
  7. Rhaegar I

    Rhaegar I Death Eater

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    Personally, I want to see some stuff on Grindelwald, but Flitwick makes a close second.
     
  8. Lord Raine

    Lord Raine Disappeared DLP Supporter

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    If they're going to explain shit, I want to know what connection, if any, Grindelwald had with the Third Reich. Did he instigate it? Was Hitler his puppet? Was Grindelwald Hitler? Or did it work in the reverse, and Hitler inspired Grindelwald?

    There can't possibly be no connection between them. They happened in the exact same timespan and had functionally comparable ideologies. I refuse to believe it's a coincidence, point-blank.
     
  9. Skeletaure

    Skeletaure Magical Core Enthusiast ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    I'd like less material on characters and more on the world. In particular I'd love anything giving a glimpse of the international wizarding world and the geo-politics of relations between wizarding governments and Muggle governments, especially where national borders may have been redrawn recently. Also anything on the colonial era and what wizards were up to during that time.

    Also interesting would be anything more on the wizarding economy, in particular the private sector. We've seen retail and government but not much else. A look at a Nimbus factory or something like that would be interesting.

    I agree that there's a connection, but you may be looking for something a bit too direct. The "mood of a nation" appears to be a real magical entity. For example, when the mood of a nation falls, dementor numbers increase. JKR has commented that magical and Muggle worlds mirror each other. Voldemort's first rise took place simultaneous with the Troubles in the Muggle world, and they had certain similarities in terms of style of warfare.

    It's entirely possible that the connection between Hitler and Grindelwald is entirely abstract, relating to this whole idea of the mood of the nation. Neither one of them ever directly influenced the other or even met the other. But still their ideas are in sync because the magical world and the Muggle world are in sync on a deep, magical level.
     
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  10. Andrela

    Andrela Plot Bunny DLP Supporter

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    I agree with Taure's explanation, because it has more magic in it than simple inspirations.

    And magic's the name of the game here, of course.
     
  11. Lord Raine

    Lord Raine Disappeared DLP Supporter

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    If magic decided to make two Hitlers because 'muh balance,' then magic is an asshole.

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    Actually, Taure, wouldn't that imply that magic is inherently segregating itself from the 'mundane' world? If magic sees Hitler and decides there needs to be another one because the magical world didn't have one, that implies that magic perceives the magical world and the mundane one as being two separate and distinct worlds, instead of one shared one that wizards arbitrarily decided should be segregated.

    Would that not imply that magic being separated from the rest of the world is an inherent predisposition of magic itself?
     
  12. Andrela

    Andrela Plot Bunny DLP Supporter

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    Well, there's your reason for the Statute of Secrecy being invented, Slytherin and purists viewing muggles as inferior, Voldemort rising to power and a LOT of people dying.

    Just joking, but it'd be funny if it turned out that magic is sentient and kind of a dick.
     
  13. afrojack

    afrojack Chief Warlock DLP Supporter

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    As much as I like this idea, the historical Hitler's life is rife with material (like his meth addiction) that could easily be twisted, just so, to make it look as though Grindelwald truly had a hand in every cookie jar. Which is also an idea I like.
     
  14. Andrela

    Andrela Plot Bunny DLP Supporter

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    This presents a problem though.

    In a scenario where Grindelwald influenced Hitler, it could be argued that a wizard is responsible for the Holocaust. Now imagine you're a Minister for Magic and you have to tell that to your muggle counterpart. "Yeah, magic is real, btw one of our folks caused WW2 lol."
     
  15. afrojack

    afrojack Chief Warlock DLP Supporter

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    I imagine certain wizards have been responsible for terrible atrocities throughout history, not unlike Muggles.

    EDIT: Also, since Gellert was likely considered a rogue much like Voldemort (having been expelled from Durmstrang), he was probably explained away in a similar fashion.

    There were also several relatively contemporary atrocities that may or may not have had anything to do with magic.

    What if Gellert was active in Russia at the same time? Damn.
     
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  16. wordhammer

    wordhammer Dark Lord DLP Supporter

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    Maybe Grindelwald initiated the Holocaust because he wanted to harvest the extensive magical writings hidden within Qabbalist texts, where different lines of Rabbis had ever only been given part of the greater chronicle- a giant distributed jigsaw that they never expected anyone to solve, but he'd found a way.

    Invading France? That was a muggle decision.
     
  17. Photon

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    Saudi Arabia has death penalty for witchcraft. And it is not just "random outdated rule" - for example see http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-18503550
     
  18. Nocturnesthesia

    Nocturnesthesia Fourth Year

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    I remember seeing a mention in a fanfic that the Holocaust was the Nazis' idea and operation, but facilitated by Grindelwald in order to fuel some fucked up rituals he invented that required human sacrifice on a massive scale. Morbid as hell and I doubt JKR would actually go there but still a fucking rad idea.
     
  19. Andrela

    Andrela Plot Bunny DLP Supporter

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    Now now, we're talking about the chick who had centaur mass-rape and a guy who fucks goats. JKR can certainly go there.
     
  20. Glimmervoid

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    The goats were a joke and the centaur rape fanon. There were two types of centaurs in Greek mythology. The wild lustful type in one corner and Chiron in the other. Chiron was the wise teacher, skilled in arts of Apollo (music, archery, prophecy etc).

    While Potter-verse centaur can be a bit quick to anger, they clear draw deeply from the Chiron. The importance of astrology and divination to their culture shows that.

    As for Grindelwald influenced Hitler... I'd be very against anything which 'excused' the crimes of the Nazis. Let Hitler and muggles be the cause of the Holocust. Grindelwald can create his own crimes while making the most of the chaos of WW2.
     
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