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Power He Knows Not...

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Vincent V, Aug 2, 2006.

  1. Vincent V

    Vincent V Slug Club Member

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    Okay we all know that Dumbledore told Harry that he thought the power was love. I have a different theory though.

    I was searching across the web for things to put in my fic, A Killer's Path. Well somehow I was sent to Wikipedia and after clicking around a bit I found an article about eye color. I was curious so I looked through it.

    It seems that green eyes are common among people of Celtic origin. I scrolled down to the end of the article and found a link to hair color.

    Red hair is found in Celtic nations such as Ireland, Scotland, and Wales.

    I remembered reading something on a HP site (Think it was Veritaserum) that said that Harry's eyes would come into play in the seventh book, so I started looking for any magical or mythological arts or rituals that are associated with Celts. It only took a few minutes of searching before I came up with Druidism. Druids are magical people able to control the elements.

    My theory is that somewhere along the line, one of Lily's ancestors was a druid. I mean...Have we really been told anything about Harry's ancestory on his mothers side. I can't recall anything other than that they were muggles. Now this theory could be crap and all of this coincidence, but I thought I would post it here anyway.

    Hope this hasn't already been posted.
    Edit: Oh and so everyone knows, I'm going to use this in my fic... So don't go stealing the idea!!! *Ahem* that is all
     
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  2. Omega

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    It's sad I know, but you just have to accept "The power the dark lord knows not..." will likely be Harry being able to channel his love for Ginslut into a pink ray of love.
     
  3. Vincent V

    Vincent V Slug Club Member

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    NO!!! I spend twenty minutes coming up with a solution that doesn't involve Ginslut, and you barge in here and through down my work. How dare you!! But yea you're probably right. *Shrugs and leaves to get some spaghetti*
     
  4. Dark Lord Rostam

    Dark Lord Rostam Button La Famiglia Midknight

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    I think Voldemort would know about Druid magic, maybe not how to do Druid magic, but know about it.

    The Power the Dark Lord knows not.

    He does not know love, so Harry will most likely have Love as his power.
     
  5. mcatrage

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    i don't understand 2 things

    1 how does voldemort not know love

    2 how does harry know love

    yeah doesn't matter the book will be something corny i bet but still doesn't make sense to me.
     
  6. Vincent V

    Vincent V Slug Club Member

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    Yea, DLR. Voldemort might know about druid magic, but he would also know about love. Doesn't mean he's able to use them.

    The prophecy was vague. Let me live in my fantasy world for a few moments. But you all owe me twenty bucks when this is what happens in book seven. :D
     
  7. Raijin

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    Does anyone but me think the power he knows not is a little to vague. Its not really specific so Harry could do something as corny as hitting Voldemort with some unknown spell and call it the power he knows not. Or it could be as general as simple chemistry. Who thinks that Voldemort knows enough about sodium to spot it and tell it shouldn't be put in water?
     
  8. Dark Lord Rostam

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    1 I think it has to do with the fact he was abused all his life, a misfit, hates everyone, and went under way too many dark rituals to count. That might distort his view on things.

    2 Harry, while abused, does have people who love him. You know, that giant family with red hair, I mean I guess it's kind of hard to forget them. Also, Dumbledore, and he loves Ginny. Oh, and he didn't undergo dark rituals.
     
  9. Randeemy

    Randeemy Headmaster DLP Supporter

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    I tell you what Vincent. That is some good research. I read about the importance of the green eyes and Lily's secret. How good would it be if you have discovered a decent 'power he knows not'
     
  10. KANE

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    Kudos on the research VV, but i think you might be reading to much into canon. Yeah, JK likes to use magical myths and write them into her stories, but i think (despite the entire membership of DLP's protests) she's set on her 'power of lurve' thing.

    Having said that, i would love to read i fic, post HBP or otherwise, that put that theory into play... obviously considering it didn't include fluffy slash or ginslut...
     
  11. Brooklynight

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    I have to agree with DLR and KANE that JKR that Ginslut is going to be the death of Voldemort. Its an interseting idea though, I'd like to see Canon Harry have some sort of unique magical ability but I think its unlikly. Whatever the resolution the the Harry/Voldemort conflict will be it will happen within a year from the end of HBP so even if Harry were to discover this power I don't see him being able to train it to the point were it would be useful for the Voldemort showdown. Good luck on using it in your fic though.
     
  12. Wasteland

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    As much as I hate to agree with everybody. It would have to be the power of love, what other way is there. The Power of the Uzi that Voldermort Know's nothing about. Drops a couple of Mags into Voldemort. With any luck though if it does have to be love hopefully it won't be for Ginslut. ( I have never heard that one before, bloody awesome ). If all else fails maybe Voldemort will win and the Wizarding world will be destroyed :D

    Also nice research Vincent. Is actually a really good theory :D
     
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  13. Niffler Lord

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    The way the books are set up the 'power the dark lord knows not' does not matter. Think about it.

    Whats keeping Voldie immortal? Horcruxes.

    So destroy those and then a simple AV (or even a mad gerbil) can kill Voldie. The 'special power' that Harry has is worthless.

    Kudos to VV for the research and the idea (you get rep).
     
  14. Wasteland

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    In the last book harry has quite a feat in front of him he has to find Voldemorts Horcruxes, Destroy the Horcruxes, Survive, Find the power the dark lord knows not and then kill him with it. All within the space of a book. It better be one hell of a book because i doubt the way JK has set harry he's anywhere near the ability to actually do it

    Do you think little harry has an AV in him at all Niffler. It couldn't end with the AV because i'm sure Voldie is quite well versed in that power by now
     
  15. Krull

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    Well it pains me to say it but….yea you guys are right the power he know not is love…but, as a side note, I would also like to say that in my opinion Vincent V’s idea is so much more believable…but alas…Voldemort will die in a pink blaze of fluffy fluffiness (and the theme song from Happy Tree Friends will magically start playing in the backround)
     
  16. mcatrage

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    if harry uses an AK ever i'll be completely surprised, i just don't think JKR has it in her to make harry capable of killing.

    for the final battle. (which i'm guessing will not be all that big) harry uses some spell that herman finds which is like a super patronus charm and everyone has to think about the person they love.

    then harry passes out for a week and he wakes up everyone is happy and he asks ginny to marry him.

    (severus and remus die along the way)
     
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    The Girl Who Lived Septology uses Druidism in it, but obviously it's a girl Harry. I think I read it when I was new to fanfiction but I don't like it anymore because Ginny becomes a Druidess and a naked Ginny is not something I like to envisage.
     
  18. Skeletaure

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    I doubt the "Power he knows not" is Elemental powers, as all wizards can do this.

    The Augamenti charm causes a stream of water to be conjoured.

    The Indendio charm causes whatever it hits to burst into fire.

    In the Ministry of Magic fight, Dumbledore counjoured a whip of fire that he could control and direct to do as he wished.

    You could argue that the whole are of Transfiguration is manipulatiog the Earth.

    As well as these, I have no doubt that there are many other spells that affect water, fire, air and the earth.
     
  19. Wasteland

    Wasteland Second Year

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    You're right though, I just can't see sweet little harry killing someone, Its just no him. After he kills voldermort with his puffy pink cloud of love/doom I'm sure he'll cry for a week about how he's a murderer and off himself.

    I believe the key to voldermort's destruction lies somewhere in the joining of the wands, somegthing has to happen there. Wormtail who owes harry a wizards debt will somehow distract voldemort and harry will win with the power of love of his parents and that coming out of his wand :)

    There has to be somthing when Voldemort killing Lilly and James we don't know because JK insisted that she have her say in how the scene was done.
     
  20. Duke of Rothwood

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    Yes while in canon you are likely correct Wasteland, I much perfer VV's idea and he obviously put a fair bit of work and thought into it. Well done, I look forward to seeing how you pull this off in your story
     
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