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Quite possibly the greatest crossover of all time.

Discussion in 'Fanfic Discussion' started by The Doctor, Jan 26, 2008.

  1. Skeletaure

    Skeletaure Magical Core Enthusiast ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    I'm not entirely sure if that's possible...

    I mean, you'd have to remove every trace of Doctor Who to make it good, which would mean it was no longer a crossover...
     
  2. The Doctor

    The Doctor Unspeakable

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1YPsaHFD8w
     
  3. Skeletaure

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    ...

    Quite.
     
  4. yak

    yak Moderator DLP Supporter Retired Staff

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    When muggles are dying during Voldemort's second rise the Prime Minister seeks out the help of The Doctor. Doctor vs Voldemort. Propecy still valid.
     
  5. InfernoCannon

    InfernoCannon Seventh Year

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    How would the PM even know the Doctor? The only organizations which know him (that we know of) and would actively seek him out is Torchwood and UNIT. Considering UNIT is outside of British government control and Torchwood is as well. The only people Torchwood would answer to is the Royal Family.
     
  6. yak

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    It was a throwaway idea which came from one of the very few eps of the new Doctor Who series that I've watched.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Christmas_Invasion

    Prime Minister Harriet Jones and the Doctor deal with an invasion by Sycorax. After the Doctor sends the invaders packing with a promise to never return, Jones orders Torchwood to shoot them down. The Doctor gets angry and initiates the PM's political downfall. I didn't see the beginning, but it was a good ep. I felt sympathy for both the Doc and the Prime Minister, but I side with the PM on making the right call.

    It was intimated that the Doc and the PM had met years before. Looking it up on Wikipedia I don't think the years match (it was her 2nd term as PM in 2006, she wouldn't have been PM during Vol's rise).

    I was trying to spark an idea in the mind of any interested authors. I suppose the Royals, Torchwood (wikipedia says: no), etc. could be looking into the strange situation. Or some strange interaction between the Veil in the DoM and Tardis, or an accident with a time turner, etc could draw in the Doc. There's a multitude of plot devices that can be used to cross the two verses over. The hard part is to write it well.
     
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  7. Philly Homer

    Philly Homer What you call elephant cum I call mouthwash

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    Keep wishing, I have been hoping for a good Harry Potter/ X-Men crossover for a long time. In fact every time I read the words, my hope rises, only to be quelled ruthlessly by a shitty fic. The chances of us actually seeing a good crossover with either one of those fandoms, are becoming astronomically low.

    That is a hint for a good author to write one, or at least attempt to write one.
     
  8. yak

    yak Moderator DLP Supporter Retired Staff

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    There are good x-men fics, and good harry potter fics, but I've never found a good hp/x-men fic.
     
  9. Dark Belra

    Dark Belra Minister of Magic

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    You could probably get the darleks, to somehow, get to the magical world, maybe Voldemort thought it was a valuable artifact and opened it, Darlek king comes out, death eaters try to kill it but fail, they run when they see this, Darlek king then revives his race. You could introduce the Doctor here.

    Ya, it could be difficult to make a plot work properly.
     
  10. The Doctor

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    I guess it's up to me then.

    One idea I've had is Harry nicking a time turner during the DoM battle at the end of OOtP, and him using it to go back and save Sirius. He fucks up time a la Father's Day, and Doctor arrives to fix everything up.

    Or alternately a predestination paradox where Harry ended up saving the Doctor's life sometime in the 21st Century, so the Doctor's forced to reciprocate in the 20th. Or possibly Harry fathering one of the children that aids him in the struggle against Voldemort. Add to that the somewhat "magical" abilities present in various alien species in the Whoniverse - the Carrionites, the Time Lord's own psychic abilities, "psionic energy" - well, the possibilities are endless.

    Edit:
    The Ministry doing some arcane ritual and accidentally summoning Daleks from the Void? I like.

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    The Doctor doesn't have to kill Voldemort in order to defeat him. The Family of Blood, anyone?:mrgreen:
     
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  11. Dark Belra

    Dark Belra Minister of Magic

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    How would the ministry cover that up though.
    Another idea is to get the cybermen to march out of the veil, as last time I saw them was when they went into hell or something like that.
     
  12. Aerin

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    No no no, a Protoss army marches out of the veil after an Arbiter's Recall ability malfunctions! :D

    /epic
     
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  14. Augurey

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    Wouldn't that be more like Aiur sending troops through a Gateway and dialing a wrong number?
     
  15. The Doctor

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    It's the Void, the region of space that lies between universes. Or something.

    I want to bring back the old-school Cybermen, personally. I can already envision it: Cyberman, the last survivor of Mondas, frozen for over a thousand years until an archaeological dig uncovers the casket...

    Edit: Better yet, set it in the 1920s, in the Valley of the Kings. Connect it with Tutankhamen and the Curse... The Curse of the Cybermen... I can see a plot coming together.:D
     
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  16. Aerin

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    True, a Gateway could work.

    A massive energy influx to mis-align the exit co-ordinates so when they send troops through, they appear in the Atrium of the Ministry.

    Tassadar or Fenix teaching Harry...now that would be fascinating.

    Human's theoretically do have latent psionic abilities, and you could argue Psionics and Magic are similiar/ the same. Both deal with influencing, altering and changing reality around the user, and can also be used to either help or harm.

    Certainly not go the route of giving him alien weaponary or w/e, or teaching him to the Judicator-caste level. But strong enough for a standard Psionic Storm or Illusion abilities.

    *Ponders* Fenix teaching DADA.

    "I can still...how do you humans say it? Throw down with the best of them?"
    If Fenix and Moody met and Fenix adopted Moody's Constant Vigilance...*facepalm*

    But it would be interesting, a three-sided war. Magic Wielders vs Magic Wielders vs Psionics. Harry leading say...6 Templars/ Zealots. You get the magical number 7, not too big so you can't accuse of God-Modding...*Grins*

    And actually, I could honestly envision Harry as a Dark Templar. He is intimately aware of darkness, cold and shadow. The cupboard under the stairs, fighting Voldemort, etc etc.

    And actually...Tassadar could have been shunted through dimensions when the charged Gantrithor impacted the Overmind. The "Dark" energy could have ripped open a veil-like portal and Tassy get's punted through, emerges at the same second Harry reflects the AK on Voldemort when he's 1...*Grins*

    Throw in a psionic connection between Tass and Harry...*ponders*

    Of course, the question remains of the time. I'd say Tassadar finds Harry when he's 4 or 7. Intriguing side note. Both 4 and 7 are known as magical numbers, and religous. 4 is the number of the earth and 3 of the heavens. So when you add 4+7 you get 11 which is the age they attend Hogwarts, which would make you think 11 would be a stronger magical number.

    Honestly, I could see Harry preferring a Protossian life-style to a human one. A life of quiet, calm, care and voluntary duty among "brothers" as it were. So far, all he's gotten is pain from the Muggle world, pain and manipulation from the wizarding world...

    And Psionic power could be the "Power the dark lord knows not".

    Because, who the hell would expect to see Harry implode/ explode the heads and bodies of his troops without raising a wand or thinking/ muttering an incantation?

    *Muses* Hogwarts having a Khayadarin Crystal as it's power-core. Makes sense, in a way. The psionic energy allowing sentience, power, granting a connection between Head's and Hogwarts. An apt analogy would be a ouji board. It allows the communication. *Sage nod*

    If you throw in hair grown midway-down his back done in a specific hair-style with tiny Khadarin crystal chips threaded through, you have rudimentry nerve linkages allowing Harry to communicate with both Tass and his own warrior's.

    *Bows*

    Sort of like a "coming of age" at 11 thing.

    Where would Harry be housed? *Muses* I'm tempted to say an island so Tassadar can "Occlude" them via psionic energy. Sort of like a permanent, mobile notice-me-not charm. Also possible they reside deep in the ocean.

    As you know, the Judicator-caste upon the Arbiter can "freeze reality" as it were. What if the Protoss did something similiar. Building a pocket of their own reality deep within the ocean. And instead of freezing reality, it's just a barrier.

    Now as to how they'd get Harry away...*ponders*On their way to the ocean, they find Harry locked outside of #4 Privet Drive and crying. So they take him under the proviso that Tassadar installs a mental block which wouldn't allow him to talk about the Protoss except with Tassadar and the rest.
     
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  17. Helltanz98

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    I expect great things of you Aerin, make it so.
     
  18. Augurey

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    The first rule of Psi Club is "Don't talk about Psi Club."

    The second rule of Psi Club is "Don't talk about Psi Club."
     
  19. Aerin

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    Psionics include telepathy.

    /check mate
     
  20. InfernoCannon

    InfernoCannon Seventh Year

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    Here's an idea to introduce the Doctor to the Harry Potter world...

    Seeing as the rooms constantly shift around in the DoM, I'm going to suggest that the rooms aren't fixed to the doors but are around Britain and merely connect with the doors randomly when they aren't moving. To accurately describe this, envision the TARDIS in Father's Day during the paradox, the "hull" was empty as the TARDIS existed elsewhere. If the rooms act in a similair way, then the Death Veilo could be in Cardiff, built beneath the Rift.

    Three weeks after Ootp (for Harry) the Doctor comes across a body floating about in space- it turns out to be Sirius, and in the ever so completely complex web of time, the Doctor recognizes his face from the news he saw once whilst on Earth. Taking him back there, the Doctor quickly realizes that there is something slightly different. He's in London, having claimed to have found this person dead in the street, and is reflecting about the course things have taken over the last year (post-series 3) when he realizes that the Carronite's could have been around for centuries before he arrived. With every intention to got back in time and scout it out, he notices a perception feild around a pub (the Leaky Cauldron) deciding to figure out how such technology arrived to England in this timeline, he gets drawn into the war as he meets Harrty and DE's attack the Alley.

    PS: Doctor, you have to write that. Mondas Cyberman vs Parralell Cyberman? Mondas Cybermanm wins hands down.
     
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