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Quite possibly the greatest crossover of all time.

Discussion in 'Fanfic Discussion' started by The Doctor, Jan 26, 2008.

  1. Dark Belra

    Dark Belra Minister of Magic

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    What about 'The Master' finds the magical world, tricks them somehow, then The Doctor arrives but is met with hostility? The tricking part would be hard, but maybe you can make wizards worship Time Lords, the reason, maybe a Time Lord saved the wizarding world from the brink of destruction. What do you guys think?

    BTW, We don't always have to go with the evil destructive robots, that blow shit up.
     
  2. The Doctor

    The Doctor Unspeakable

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    I don't really like the idea of the Doctor fighting in the war. I prefer Harry to be travelling through time and space with him. And getting some much-needed training at the same time.

    The Carrionites I suspect had an effect on Wizarding society, but weren't the origin of it. Like I said, there are many races in the Whoniverse that exhibit similar mental powers; it's quite possible that every human had "magic" at some point.

    I've toyed around with the idea that the DoM contains an "Untempered Schism" inside it, which is really what lies in the so-called Love Room.

    I haven't seen Torchwood, so I wasn't aware of the other abilities of the Rift (apart from the TARDIS pit stop). What do you think? Horde of Futurekind or Toclafane raging through Wales?

    Agreed. Davies' recreation of the Cybermen sucked.:wall:

    I've thought about ways to bring the Master into it.

    One idea is this: the Master needed a human to open the Eye of Harmony. So, he jumps around Earth, raping several select women. One of them turns out to be Lily Potter. Harry survives Voldemort's curse not by Lily's blood protection, but by regenerating his body.

    Hey, don't mess with the evil destructive robots. The Daleks made Doctor Who what it is.
     
  3. Dark Belra

    Dark Belra Minister of Magic

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    Since the Doctor is half human on his mothers side, maybe Harry can be the Doctor, He gets collected by Time Lords and is thrown into the war between the Daleks and Time Lords, this could be where he gets his much needed training to kill Voldemort.
     
  4. The Doctor

    The Doctor Unspeakable

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    That's if you believe that rubbish in the TV movie. Personally I think he was half-human for only that regeneration. All other times he's been full Time Lord. It's possible for him to be a different species, as evidenced by Romana's regeneration.


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    Don't ask.

    And for the record, he won't be regenerating into a woman. Ever. The Doctor is always played by a white Anglo-Saxon males. Always.
     
  5. InfernoCannon

    InfernoCannon Seventh Year

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    Well, to have Harry travel with the Doctor you could still use the Veil=Rift idea.

    Have Harry rush through the veil before anyone can stop. Instead of dying, he's spat out on a different planet. He lives there for several months, easily following the language as it is a future colony of Earth. The Docotr turns up, and combats the villain with the help of Harry.

    Of course, you could have Voldemort as the Master. The Master ran away from the Time War- what if instead of becoming Professor Yana, he became young Tom Riddle but kept his dreams of Universal Conquest. When I think about it, there are numerous ways to bring in Doctor Who.
     
  6. Banner

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    As far as I'm concerned, the problem is NOT getting Harry Potter on the TARDIS, or introducing The Doctor to the British Wizarding World: it's making the crossover WORK. We just don't have enough information about HP magic (and its limitations) to gracefully add it anywhere.

    Highlander, The Sentinel, Buffy, Stargate: I thought at least one of those would cross with anything. HP just doesn't crossover gracefully. The only really good long crossover that I can remember offhand is "A Drop in the Ocean," by Echo, over at Twisting The Hellmouth. And it mostly succeeds by focusing on personalities and avoiding comparisons between Buffy and HP magic - HP magic is used almost exclusively.

    JKR managed to write seven four-hundred-plus page books (God knows HOW many words) without giving us a functional definition of the single most important aspect of the framework. We know hardly anything about magic.


    Edited to add the link ('cause my mama raised me good):
    A Drop in the Ocean, by Echo
    http://www.tthfanfic.com/wholestory.php?no=267#chapter1
     
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  7. The Doctor

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    That just gives fanfiction writers license to write whatever they want to. And I hope Rowling never comes out to explain it, because the explanation will be shit.
     
  8. Dark Belra

    Dark Belra Minister of Magic

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    I have to agree here, as long as you show some sort of difference between magic and all the other abilitys, you can make magic as powerful as you want or as weak as you want.
     
  9. yak

    yak Moderator DLP Supporter Retired Staff

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    Oh, hell no. Was that a troll?

    Read the first passage from the first chapter of the sequel to get an idea for the kind of fic this is.

    http://www.tthfanfic.com/Story-277/echo+Snake+Charming.htm

    Snivelling Draco's lines read more like Spike's "I don't give a shit about your soddin' birthday, Potter. I just came for the ride", Willow is "the vampire formally known as Willow - Lily Joyce Rosenberg," and Dawn is Harry's constant love and desire who he hasn't seen in seven months.

    Fuck that shit.

    Yak.
     
  10. Banner

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    I enjoyed a great deal of the story. There were parts I didn't like, but the characterizations were fun, and there were nifty concepts. It was interesting to watch the students growing up.
     
  11. Helltanz98

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    Harry Potter and the Stargate was good, an added bonus was its author is a member of DLP.
     
  12. Link

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    You can't make a good crossover if you mix equally 50% Harry Potter and 50% the other fandom elements. "True" crossovers which crosses equally the two fandoms are usually crap. You can't mix apples with pears.

    Nonjon's "Brown Coat, Green Eyes" is great because it's a Firefly fanfiction, where Harry Potter happens to be in. Denarian Renegade/Knight is great because it's an Harry Potter fanfiction where he happens to find a coin from Dresden's fandom; Harry Dresden, the hero from the Dresden Files is barely mentioned in this story, even though it's supposed to be a crossover between the two fandoms...

    In a crossover, as long as one fandom is being relativly 'minor' to the story, it's usually good.
     
  13. Helltanz98

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    Harry Buffy cross overs, I have yet to read a good one.
    I'm working, and I use that term very loosely, on a Harry Potter Halo cross, but since I didn't post the first story I need to really go in depth on the back story.
    But good Crossovers are rare.
     
  14. Andro

    Andro Master of Death DLP Supporter

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    Your Halo crossover must have Grunts.

    Lots and lots of Grunts.
     
  15. Helltanz98

    Helltanz98 Professor

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    Why do you say that Andros?
    We need better HP Hellsing cross overs.
     
  16. Helius

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    Correction: Your Halo crossover must have Grunts and be of a higher standard than your other fics, which ain't exactly well-written.

    As for the Grunts, they kinda got popular through Soulguard's fics. Savor the Grunty goodness.
     
  17. Dark Belra

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    Your halo crossover must be much better then the average fic or you are dead. I am not joking. Your Halo story must have the Flood, I love the Flood.
    How are you going to do the crossover because I have not seen a good one.
     
  18. Helltanz98

    Helltanz98 Professor

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    I should not have even brought up my own cross, Helius you have if I recall, have made you opinion of my works, hence why I am rewriting the older ones.
    That said it does contain the flood, assuming I get around to typing and posting, and yes the Grunts make an appearance.
    As to how, the story was originally meant to be the sequal to a non obvious cross over with Halo, forerunner backstory stuff, I never posted the first one though so I have to type the back story into the story.
     
  19. Andro

    Andro Master of Death DLP Supporter

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    Grunts are the weapons of the Gods. Their dialogue is just so awesome, ie Die motherfucker!

    I've got a purely Halo story in the works, entitled "Hellenica: Arbitrary Justice". If the Elites were able to foresee the Prophet's betrayal, things would have gone much more differently.

    The Halo fanfic giants are Mr. Clark and Kavek. Soulguard too I guess, but in terms of actual writing skill he's not in the other two's league.
     
  20. Helltanz98

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    Where you going to post it Andros? I'll look into the other guys as well.
     
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