.... What's the point of smurfing if you are only Gold I o,0


Anyways, I was one game away from my Promo series, but I lagged so hard today for some reason. Ended up losing two games in a row, with me being feeder.

 

Well, I'm onto promo series for Gold 3 after a convincing win on my Ezreal.

Me and Leona were vs Draven and Lulu and we pretty much manhandled them out of lane. I got a kill on Lulu, and denied like 6 full waves to them. We were up lvl 8 to them just hitting 6. Then we got a double kill on them.
In teamfights, Zac ruined my day. Super sad about that. He does so much damage. But the rest of my team destroyed them.

 

Not bad. First game in a while. Entered rank and went Zac.

Team was Ahri, Zac Jungle, Darius, MF and Janna vs Amumu, Leona, Morgana, Kayle, and Vayne. We murdered them at every turn, basically.

MF got a penta at like 15 minutes or something ridiculous.

Ended game as 5/2/15 Zac and now I'm sitting on the promo.

 

Played a couple of games today, kinda nervous as I hadn't played ranked in two weeks and aram's only so good for warm-up when you get 2 poke comps with rather crushing defeats.

Still, game one went terribly. Graves/Elise/Ryze/Ahri/Leona (me) vs Kennen/Amumu/Lissandra/Cait/Zyra - I think this one writes itself. Ryze got crushed top, going 0/6 within 12 minutes against Kennen, we went even bot though Graves wanted to go early on Zyra as she had AP/armor but I wanted to wait till 3. Either way he got poked out hard but Elise ganked anyway and we got Zyra.

From there it was just a bunch of skirmishes with everyone clumping up like penguins whilst they just unloaded their ults on us for 3 straight aces till we ff'd out, woulda helped if people just didn't clump or constantly roam in the jungle without buying any wards, I can't ward everything but such is life.

Game 2 was much better as jungle Naut again. I did little to nothing in this game as everyone else was Gold I, me being the lone Gold IV in the game. My Jax wrecked Tryn top, their Mummy shoved it into tower fucking Trynd over completely. Bot and mid went even with me just showing up to force flashes and from there it turned into skirmishes we kept winning due to no flashes on them and superior skirmish comp.

Went from 97 LP to 79 and back into Promo for Gold III, can't possibly be Gold II as I'm 2-4 in my last 6 ranked games now.

 

I am in my promo for gold 5 i just started picking up Zac top this week went 6 and 2. Won my first promo match was facing jayce top. He stomped me in lane but my voli jungle came up and we picked up 2 kills when there jungle tried to counter gank.The game was won about 22 minutes in after we aced them for the 2nd time at dragon and took there mid inhib.

 

After a couple days of casual games I reached my promo series. Finally I fixed my MMR. I had a good win streak, like 6 games or something.
I was unlucky on my promo matches, however. Our jungler gave first blood/doublebuffs to a Riven top, and she proceeded to get completely fed by our Wukong. I was fairly winning my botom lane, but Riven was too strong for any of us to deal with. Wukong kept dying to her all the time, and she got a couple double kills, etc. She had no problem 1v2 and 1v3. All the while, Wukong was cursing at everyone else while he kept feeding.
I say no big deal, move on to next game.
We have Jungle Yi. He tries to rambo, invades, dies. He keeps invading and dying. I counted 4 times before I stopped counting.
Late game he kept going solo to unwarded areas and dying, or jungling while the enemy took our base.
Was pretty sad too, my Leblanc was completely crushing their Ahri mid, and I was starting to gank bot a few times when Yi started to feed and ruin our plays.

Back to 65 LP. Meh. My MMR is fixed now, so I should be taking another shot at that promotion soon.

 

This isn´t funny anymore... My hidden Elo or whatever you want to call it must be extremely bad.. I am on a (winning) streak and yet got 1 LP last match and now 0 Lp.

 

Well, that just means your MMR is going up now Erandil.

I just had the shittiest game ever. I played Kayle mid with Nasus, Annie top, Janna/Trist vs their Zac, Xin jungle, Ahri, Ezreal/Leona.

I got an early firstblood on their Xin when he tried to invade our Nasus. That was super for me, since I picked up the blue buff and I proceeded to push mid lane until I hit 6. I was thinking I had pretty much won mid lane. I ganked bot and we got a double kill. However, instead of backing like our jungle and me told them to, our bot lane proceeded to stay and gave up two kills to Ahri.
Top was a wash. Annie got a solo kill, but then she fed several kills back to Zac.
Their Ahri was pretty good, and she pressed the inch we gave her into a dominating 7/2 score. It was so frustrating because my team kept getting picked off when trying to farm like I warned them they would.

Mid game we were pretty behind, as Zac was massive and Ahri was Ahri. We managed several skirmishes where we came up behind 1 kill and we managed to take dragon with Nasus so that kept us in the game. Me and Annie managed to pick off Ezreal and then I picked up Ahri so we pushed mid and got an inhib. They tried to baron but we came back and had a huge fight. I managed to get Ezreal and take Ahri very low. Our Trist managed to pick up the triple kill cleanup but she jumped away from their support Leona instead of picking up the quadra. /facepalm

After that we grouped up to push top towers down, but Annie went bot lane for some reason and got caught out by Xin Zhao. However, I guessed Ezreal and Ahri would be rotating down and I ambushed them in between mid and top and got a double kill. This play I was super proud of. Trist died, but Annie mopped up Zin and Xac and I ended up killing Leona as well.

We won thankfully.

 

Played two matches today. An (arguably) perfect Zac jungle game with zero deatsh and complete domination of objectives. Btw, me and ally Aatrox kept bro-fisting after landing our knockups together. When enemy popped our passives, we just turned around and killed them, and actually managed to synchro-allchat 'you cant touch dis'. Damn but that dunk combo is awesome.

Second was was more tense, and very eventful. I completely dominated the enemy Tristana/Nami, even after tristana got 2 early kills after a gank and my support's derp. My lane was Varus/Soraka. I just Q'd to victory, secured ALL the dragons, and ended the lane phase with a massive advantage.
We almost threw the game because our olaf and kassadin kept going alone and hunting enemies by themselves, but eventually we started grouping, winning teamfights, and eventually got the game.
Edit: I should mention that I myself was not exempt from almost throwing. I got cocky from my advantage and died 2-3 times for absolutely no reason. Tristana got huge in the meanwhile. We lost an inhib by the time we got our shit together.
Towards the end the mouse was shaking on its own, I was so scared I would lose because of this.

Now on my promos, but wont play them today.

 

Double post makes me sad

I played my promos yesterday.
First match was Varus/Soraka vs a Twitch/Nami. Again, an easy matchup, in which we were able to easily score a first blood in the first 2 minutes.
However, that made the enemy Lee Sin decide to camp bot. After a few successful Lee ganks (double of which were unsuccesful) I ended up far behind on my usual build than I normally am. I was even with Twitch in gold, but he had more kills byt the end of lane phase.
We were still killing them on 2v2, but we rarely got the chance to 2v2, as Lee was in full babysit mode.
However, that enabled our Aatrox top to get huge, even though he died a couple of times early. Once he got a few items going, he easily dominated teamfights.
Their Khazix and J4 always jumped me, and since their entire team always wasted their CC on me, who couldn't deal too much damage anyway, it was easy for Aatrox to clean up after this. We also had a weird AP Corki who didn't do much, but he was, I suppose, annoying in the damage he dealt from afar.
It seemed bleak early, and I suppose it could have gone either way up until a certain point, but we won.

Second game was a disaster, in which I was forced (as last pick) to go top Ryze versus a Renekton. Top is the only lane I'm not comfortable with, and I have no idea how to deal with Renekton. I was doing relatively well, until enemy Lee Sin ganked and gave the first blood to Renekton. It was a riot after this, during which me, and my entire team, fed like mad until they took our base. No lane won. One of the worst games I have played recently.

The third game went much better. Jungle J4 to victory. Like a gentleman, I gave all the kills to my team, and they in turn helped me get objectives. Relatively easy, quick and painless victory.

Goodbye Gold V, I will not miss you.

 

So I just dropped from Gold 4 100 LP to Gold 5 0 LP.

http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/19765581#profile

You can check my graph. over 150 elo lost.

I don't know what I"m doing LOL

 

If I had to guess it would be that your play style is too aggressive. You have a significantly higher amount of deaths than I would expect based on the last ten matches you have; a fed Vayne shouldn't really ever be dying, Ahri with 1 kill needs to play passive, Yi triforce, Kassadin "invest in the late game" build when you're behind. I think triforce Yi is for when you are fed, and the ROA/Tear/Zhonya build is really more for when you are ahead (and able to gib someone with a combo then lolwarp away after the CD comes up while you're invulnerable) than if you have a low cs count with not many kills.

Also, you're probably on tilt.

 

This so much. Lose 2 games in a row, stop for the day or play some fun shit to regain morale. Otherwise you're going to be stuck in a downward spiral of 13 losses in a row back down to Bronze.

Morgana's also a pretty weak mid laner now. She's a safe pick but is outclassed by a ton of others.

 

@Consumptus: Your builds are all of my wut.

Vayne: If you're seriously that stupidly fed, you junk the BORK and buy another PD or get LW. at that point, the enemy has so much armor you're going to be hitting for peanuts. LW will break the armor. PD will let you bullshit your way through it with crits + atk spd. BORK just becomes a burden at that stage compared to raw crit damage.

Shyv: Run exhaust instead fo flash. you have W for pocket-ghosting and Ulti for flash maneuvers. Exhaust lets you actually stay on someone's ass when you don't have phage/red buff and makes your early ganks really deadly.

Yi: Never build the fucking spirit upgrade or Tforce fucking ever on Yi. Items are trash on him. You're not a bruisier. You're an ADC that happens to need bulk. Build straight ADC, not bruiser trash. If you're worried about getting blown up as Yi, then you need to either learn Yi timing better or buy the good stuff, like Randuin's.

Yi's all about the high damage autos and Q resets. Elder lizard and Tforce? none of that shit helps him. He's either always spamming Q cause he entered at the right moment or always autoing cause he failed/is chasing a guy down. He's not the guy that's doing Q-auto-q-auto chains like akali. Tforce is a wasted purchase since you'll never fully optimize its use. For that same budget, you can get IE which really does make Yi explode people everywhere.

Tristana: Why do you have QSS? If Malz is flashing on top of you, you have Lee, Annie, Janna, and Elise with 5 CCs to fuck his shit up. Failing that, because of the delay on Malz ulti, you can R him away. Other than that, they have no threat on their team that necessitates QSS with Trist's skill set. You pretty much squandered Trist's abilities by purchasing that QSS so early. You made Trist's gimped mid game even more gimped.

Kass: Don't build RoA. Ever. You're an assassin. Start going in and nuking people. Zed/Nidalee are going to outfarm, outzone, and outpush you all day every fucking day. Your entire goal in lane should be "once I hit 6, every other lane is dead". Since whoever you fought mid is 100% guarnteed to be a skill shot champ, you didn't need massive sustain. All you have to do is keep dodging and wait for lvl 6 to gank-mania everyone else.

If anything, you should've let your jungler come in to take up some farm while you use your ulti to murder people.

Morg: Please never buy mobi boots on her. She needs bulk or damage. If you're dieing for that speed, buy Twin shadows. It's defense + move speed + active seeking slow. Morg is the one you do want RoA on because she's about being an immobile wall, not a gank machine.


EDIT: Also, I see you like homeguard. STOP DOING THAT. If you're an ADC, you want furor or Alacrity for continued super amazing kiting. If you're any sort of 1v1 or chaser, you want furor for chasing constantly. Hell, basically everyone wants alacrity or furor. Unless they're the support that stands in back or the main initiator, then they want captain.

Homeguard only pops up in 3 real situations:

1) You're losing rather badly and need rapid defense in multiple lanes and are actually able to go to those other lanes.

2) You have teleport for bullshit ganks at super speeds.

3) You're beating your enemy, but it's always close. Homeguard boosts the speed you return to lane for a bigger advantage, assuming that 475 gold doesn't screw over your advantage in the first place.

If none of these situations fit your current game, don't buy homeguard.

 

@Con

Your Morg build is meh. If you buy mobility boots on her you have to be roaming as soon as your ult is up and if you're going to buy abyssal you need to buy it before zhonya's.

Kass shouldn't start flask, you can get by on 4 hp pots and 2 mp pots. That and you should get tear if you're not that far behind, if you are just skip it and get double dorans into roa, vs ads you probably want single dorans, catalyst, and seekers.

As Trist I'm going to assume you kept getting jumped on by Noc and then knocked up by Nami almost every fight. What you'd want to do in that situation is e Noc when he comes on you and then ult him away, saving your jump for Nami ult, and if Malz comes to ult you, then you have QSS. QSS was a decent buy since they had a ton of magic damage and enough cc to make it worth it.

Yi shouldn't get triforce or elder lizard against Kayle/J4/Lulu, in fact you shouldn't be playing Yi against them period. If you're going to do insist on playing Yi against heroes like them I'd suggest getting a bork/ga/hexdrinker/shiv, essentially items that let you do more damage while still keeping you alive.

As Twitch I'm going to assume you kept getting pounded by Malphite/Lissandra, in which case you probably should have gone double defense items or taken cleanse over barrier.

As Cait you should have taken cleanse over barrier since you were against Ashe. That and if you're really behind your counterpart you probably shouldn't be getting vamp scepter as Cait vs that lane since it's over as soon as you get caught, unless you were able to weave in and out of team fights. Also you got so little gold, in a 55+ minute game you should definitely be at full build, not mid game build.

Never first pick Shyv. As far as the actual game goes I don't see anything that you could have done to win that game, their comp was way better. The game was 100% on Graves/Shen to carry, if the other team played their comp correctly then there would be nothing that you or Cass could ever do in team fights.

When you play Vayne you either buy bork or you buy bt, not both of them, and if you do buy bork you should keep it throughout the whole game since it scales so well on her. Against that team you'd want QSS over bt since they have so much cc. Gameplay wise you'd have to just stay back, auto whoever comes near you, save tumble to reposition and not for damage and keep condemn for when someone comes near.

As Morg you should have went double doran's into negatron, sorcs, and then abyssal instead of rushing zhonya's. What you'd need to do is bind Nasus and ult when you could get Kass and Kayle with the whole thing.

Your itemization as a whole is bad, you need to think before you buy items, as a general rule of thumb: You get mobility boots to gank and get around the map, zhonya's if you need to drop aggro, look at fights and see if you're dying because you're too squishy, you get caught, or you can't sustain yourself throughout the fight and build to suit that.

 

I'm... Gonna disagree with this. Kass is fragile as fuck without a RoA, even if you do something stupid and rush a Zhonya's, he needs an RoA (ideally) to stand a chance of diving in. Yes he's an assassin so ideally should be either 1) Waiting to dive in and finish someone off or 2) going deep and instantly trying to get his target before getting out again.

Usually the Kass' I see do option 2, so, I think RoA is perfect for Kass - it helps with your early into mid transition too as it's free sustain from Catalyst, allows you to get tankier and gives you some damage whilst you farm up your second item, whatever you choose that to be. All depends on how you play him but personally RoA is a core item on Kass to me.

TLDR; RoA is almost always worth it on Kass unless it takes you too long (20+ minutes is the very limit imo)

 

I don't remember every single game, but here are some of the ones that I do remember.

The 4/10 Morg game should have been our victory. We got their inhib turret at 25 mins after a 1 for 5 ace. But after that ace we literally never grouped up again and the enemy team picked us off.

The 4/3 Trist game was pretty sad. There were a whole bunch of level 1 shenanigans which resulted in 3 kills for us and 1 kill for them, but me and Janna got to lane late without any assists. Then Noct managed to kill our Lee in the jungle. Annie dominated mid lane, but Noct and Malz used double ulti's on her whenever they were up. Our Elise went 0/5 in top lane. Elise and Annie are duo queue'd. Me and Janna faced off against thier duo queue bot lane and we picked up two double kills, making me 3/0/1. It's why I picked up the QSS because I was so far ahead and I needed to prevent Rumble from killing me. Annie however goes on a bitchfest complaining about getting camped. So she wanders off by herself several times.

The Yi game we had another duo queue who didn't say anything. First pick says he'll mid and then he picks amumu. So I pick Yi jungle. Ends up the duo queue switches and we have amumu support. I wasn't trying to build a Triforce, I just needed health so I wouldn't get instantly blown up since we had no tank. I picked up the Zeal so I could better splitpush, and duel whoever came for me. We had our Vayne 3/0 through 3 ganks from me, but meh, wasn't enough. I also disagree about Lizard Elder. I was jungle, and the item provides a huge spike in power when you build it. I needed all the early power to gank the lanes since they were all behind.

The Vayne game, they backdoored us to death. We were behind early, since they had so much damage mid game. I should have built another PD, but I don't think I had enough money until the end.

The Cait game was stupid for me. Malphite and Syndra both ran TP. We had another duo queue bot lane. Lulu walks into the bush at lvl 1 and gets blown up by Leona and Ashe for first blood despite me pinging be careful. Thankfully, we pretty much outplayed them and our jungle picked up a kill in bot. Then the fun bot lane parties begin. TP malph ulti, TP syndra ulti, etc. Super fun game. Our Yi and Trynd stepped up though and carried. Trynd destroyed top lane Malphite. It definitely wasn't 55+ minutes. I think something is wrong with LoLking, as I distinctly remember 30 second death timers. I'd say it was around 35 mins. We had to wait for Trynd to reconnect. As for Vamp Scepter, I had Lulu vs a Nami and Ashe. They had just as much poke and harass but with Nami sustain. I needed the Vamp Scepter or I would just get forced out of lane.

Edit: I also believe RoA is core on Kass. I went Seekers first (vs Zed and j4 jungle) and then got my RoA around 17 mins. It's absolutely critical for the early game since Kass's ulti still has a long cd and you can get blown up during that time. It also increases your mana pool so you can stack your ulti. It gives you sustain so you can survive in lane.
Also, I disagree about never first picking Shyvanna or any of my champion choices. That game we had everyone in the role they wanted. Graves still went 0/4 by 15 minutes. Our Janna ditched him to help other lanes.

And yeah, I of course played badly (the evidence is right there lol) but I don't think my item builds or champ picks were wrong.

 

The problem with first picking Shyvanna, or any low cc jungler, in soloQ is that it can often mean your team has no engage or hard cc for teamfights. Which means you can't group and to win you have to either catch them out or splitpush them to death, but it's soloQ so it's always your team that gets caught. So you probably shouldn't pick a shyvanna unless you already have some sort of engage from the rest of your team.

 

^ Yup, which is why 9/10 games I end up on Nautilus or Cho if I fancy jungling, because people just don't want to pick champions with much cc/hard engages. Hell, short of having a Thresh it's rare there's anyone picked who can catch someone out these days.

Shyv has her place, just not as an FP jungler unfortunately. That said, I'd do it anyway if I had the guts, you just really need to run exhaust to force a flash with your appearance in the lane, and potentially forcing a FB if you can get it post flash.