I still don't know what to do with you tbh. Cobalt being a wolf kind of looks good for you but your ISO is just...not great.

 

Yes, that is Kai.

 

This claims real like 90% of the time here.

 

EBWOP: ok yeah and all of Cobalt's targets were claimed or dead when Cobalt fakeclaimed the info oracle whatsits.

So, I guess Cobalt --- Why, exactly, did you pull a fakeclaim gambit in #2214 when according to this narrative you had already caught a scum?? Like, "reaction test" doesn't cut it given that you're risking your goddamn PR claim to try this.

 

Neighbourizer Scientist + Doublevoter + BG + Daykill + 1-Shot Doc is not anywhere near enough power to go up against 5 scum let alone scum that have RB's & Rolecops. We were missing town power which is why I wanted the mass-claim to happen because we had to have something at least reasonably decent.

 

I did SAY I was rushing out the door when I posted that :v

So my doorthought was "holding a tracker claim to catch scum in a lie is sensible"

With those targets though, >_>

(I mean WIFOM why would Cobalt do it this way around rather than claim having targeted someone that went AFTER him to validate his gambit, but then why the hell did town Cobalt not just claim straight up?????)

 

There's also the fact that mafia having a roleblocker and a backup roleblocker means there has to be something worth them roleblocking inside the game. Daykill is unblockable, Doc & Neighbourizer are 1-Shot here so roleblocker & backup roleblocker are not being put in a setup just to deal with a double voter & a BG.

 

Okay, but the execution still completely sucks.

 

Like ignore "oh he pulled a gambit" shit (Which is really stupid and annoying) but even a small amount of setup spec here pretty much confirms him as legitimate.

Unvote, Vote: Pie

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Fable - Actually read my following posts, please?

 

Ugh. I don't think scum!Reg sacrifices all his hard-earned towncred to defend scum!Cobalt here.

And I still feel like Cobalt's hardbus on Zen feels like not a hardbus.

And I can believe Cobalt was incredibly, incredibly stupid.

I guess the important thing to how this is resolving, is:
Vaimes, Fable --- Do you think pienyan will not get lynched this game? If not the whole point is moot b/c we should just lynch pie now and get a test of Cobalt's claim as a bonus with it. If so then fine we can lynch Cobalt first and then do pie if Cobalt flips legit.

 

Reg are you actually a wolf?

 

Totally.

But answer me this; how the fuck is Jans role, doublevoter, daykill and BG anywhere near enough power to go up against 5 scum most of which have roles themselves in a closed setup? It's not.

 

It's probably better to kill pie first tbh.

That way scum will shoot Cobalt and I can live for another Day. :]

 

OTOH putting them in to deal with a tracker is weird because the tracker can catch them? Like, why not just put in a ninja?
Fable --- Look, if he's a wolf then we lynch him when pie flips town and Cobalt flips scum. Like, we're not at LYLO here and we can actively test everything with lynches? scum!Cobalt IS going to die whether it's tonight or tomorrow, so scum!Reg is committing suicide by tying himself to him.

 

Maybe miner is a strong role.

 

And why the fuck is there roleblockers in the game if there's no tracker here and they can only block a BG (which is the most pointless role to block anyway since if it ever activates it dies anyway) and a doublevoter (which proves itself as conftown but it's ability does literally jack shit)

 

Oh and there's another answer to this: The roleblocker and backup roleblocker are extremely weak if there's no-one to block with them. In which case they're just in the game for the same reason people sometimes put Godfather in a game with no cops.

 

Or scum docs with no vig.

Shrug.

Unvote, vote pie

 

We've seen a role cop and a back-up RB. If it's something like role cop, RB, back-up RB, goons x2 that doesn't seem unbalanced at all.

Meanwhile you eating this claim up because it fits your stupid wolf!pein narrative despite it making no fucking sense is super gross.