Im not saying you said to Lynch me.

That's absolutely not what I said in that post.

I'm saying you haven't treated explaining your read on me and handling others misreads one in the same fashion as you have others throughout the entire game. You haven't done it in the same way you're doing Blab now despite logically from your point of view having me as significantly more likely town than Blab.

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I posted this and you flat out ignored it to instead just do some dumb back and forth with DC.

 

I don't get your point re: blab. Fable thinks blab can only possibly be with you, but he made that post waaay before you even voted for or pushed on blab, yeah? And only as an "I don't believe this but if we entertain this world then I think xyz" hypothetical.

 

The point about Blab is Fable is trying to move me back into the POE because he dislikes my push on Blab and thinks Blab is town but only has me as scum with Blab? So um, how does this make any sense from him?

 

Yeah because I'm fucking drained at this point and just want the game to be over. Like I've explained why I think it's dC/miner pretty much all day and neither one looks worse than blab to me. Like you said his approach wasn't consistent with his thoughts but he explained why he was assuming 5 wolves instead of 4 earlier so yeah it makes sense. And Miner and dC are never not the next two lynches so unless you are with blab there's no way we don't get to f4.

 

Can you at least see where I'm coming from with the other points, like say mos confirms me as town you admit it looks bad?

 

I'M NOT TRYING TO PUT YOU BACK IN THE POE WTF?!

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Like I just said I don't get what you're doing today jesus Reg.

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Can we just lynch Miner today? That's all I want at this point.

 

Rollseyes.

 

Okay yeah blab would be my answer to that over you but that doesn't mean that I don't still think it's miner/dC.

 

And I've asked for explanation behind that Blab town read over and over again and been given f all. Your above stance is what I'm talking about in "putting me back in the PoE" and about 'not fitting with you only having me with Blab" as well as "you've treated your town read that was super strong at daystart really odd this whole day phase".

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Anyway I'm stepping out before I pull the remaining few strands of hair I have out. I'll be back 1-2 hours before deadline.

 

Yeah because having a V read push me all day feels bad especially when you're doing it just to say you did.

 

Eh, at the start it was me looking to see if I had a blind spot and to narrow down the scum team using other tools but your play this day phase genuinely makes me think you could be mafia and not a "for show read", I'm more than willing to face the music if I'm wrong.

 

So now I make sense with waco, Zen, and Cobalt because....

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And I fake a gladiator claim to keep you and Pein from death tunneling each other as a a wolf because......

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Cuz not for nothing but I feel like I'm the same level of clear as stanari.

 

To endgame as scum I guess? I mean there was a period where your scum pool was Fonti/Kai/Miner so it'd not like you didn't have a path to win? Some of the interactions with the flipped scum doesn't look particularly w/w but I know you're a very good scum player so I wouldn't rule you out on that alone?

The gladiator thing means nearly nothing to me since it was just very obviously fake and didn't have any real impact. It's also something that can be done as scum that know it's TvT as a 'look at that" thing? So yeah not reading into that part

And I consider some of what Stanari has done as unfakable due to the context of them, lesso for you.

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I think there a 50% chance this ends in a F3 with DC/Fable/Me and think there's a 100% chance I hate that.

 

I now completely understand why Pein got upset as she did earlier cuz your argument is complete nonsense. "Your a good wolf" is such complete catch all trash and I'm not even sure on what basis you're making that statement when you've never seen me wolf before.

 

Ooooookay

I'm gonna make this as simple as I can

Let's assume possible scum are {blab/Miner/dC/Regfan}

The aim isn't necessarily to hit today, it's to make a lynch today that EITHER hits OR clears someone.

So:

What we need to agree on is, which of these four people, if town, clears another one of these four people?

I moved to blab because I'm IN this group, so I'm pretty agnostic. I'm cleared to myself regardless, so if blab flips town scum is Miner/Reg, cool.

For all you OTHER people out there, you need to pick a lynch that eliminates the most scumteams if it flips town. I was under the impression this was blab for most of you.

 

Not aiming to "have it narrowed down for tomorrow", if we're doing that you can just say it's irrelevant which of Miner/Blab is lynched since a scum lynch clears the other and a town lynch confirms the other. I think it's more important to "aim for scum" in that grouping; we can't really afford to lose our mslynch.

And Fable, I've been told about your scum strong scum game from a few people. It's not my argument for scum reading you, not even remotely so to generalise it to that is pretty unfair. My issue with how you're approaching and assessing today.

 

Well no, b/c IMO a Miner lynch leaves too many non-blab people on the table and a blab lynch does not.

At least this WAS my opinion until everyone started spouting off about dC/Miner. Now we might be better off with something else.

Of course it's possible that everyone in that group has two possible buddies, but...

...aaand of course there's no way for ME to promote this because I'm part of the group, so if I say something like "I only make sense with blab, so lynch blab to either clear me or hit scum" the obvious answer is "NERR YOU'RE SCUM WITH SOMEONE ELSE". So, like, if people who AREN'T in that group could figure out which teams in that group of four they think aren't reasonable that'd be great.

Anyway the thing is we totally can afford to lose our mislynch if it puts us in a position where guaranteed only two scum are remaining. And I'm not saying we should aim to miss, just that we should aim not to lynch someone where missing on them leaves us with ambiguity.

 

EoD is tonight, correct?

Really kind of want to townread the second part of this quote.

 

I really do see a disconnect in the way you've approached your town read on me and peoples misreads on me and how you've handled town reads in both WH8 and earlier in this game. If you're town here I think you'd consider it important to convince others they're wrong about me since if you were to be shot I'd almost certainly be mslynched and it'd be them wasting time considering worlds you think are impossible. I find the way you've approached it on the other hand to make plenty of sense as mafia.

/Shrug.

 

The tl;dr is:

We're probably going to lynch in Miner/blab

Whichever one we pick, we're saying:
"If this person is town, we lose our mislynch. If this person is scum, we don't"
So to minimize worst case, we should pick the person who's the LEAST harmful in the first case.
If they're both equally harmful on a miss then fine, but that's not the impression I've gotten from people's behaviour today.