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So...what was the "Power He Knows Not"?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Skeletaure, Mar 4, 2008.

  1. Perspicacity

    Perspicacity Destroyer of Worlds ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    No worse than another black-clad baddie in another plot-hole-ridden universe. *cough* George Lucas *cough*

    Blow up a planet? Bad. But tell your son you love him on your deathbed? All is forgiven. Let's get down with some Ewoks!
     
  2. Spira

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    "The Power He Knows Not" is just JK trying to justify that her book has any meaning. These were books written by a bad author who has her own fan-girl fantasies.
     
  3. TimeLord

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    I wouldn't say she is a bad author. I think I'd go with she is an author who didn't like being thrust into the spotlight so quickly and thus just got tired of writing Harry Potter.
     
  4. Knox

    Knox The Last Remnant DLP Supporter

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    I agree with Time lord a little bit. She goes from having nothing at all, to a Multi-millionaire. And in the span of two to three years she had secured her place as one of the best authors of all time. But that also doesn't mean hated the spotlight, she just isn't used to it, though by book six she should have been. So Ill only protect her till book five
     
  5. Sorrows

    Sorrows Queen of the Flamingos Moderator

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    To be fair there is practically no precedent to what happened to her, sure people like Tolken and C.S Lewis are well known but there was nothing like the instant popularity she had, now every writer wants to be 'the next J.K Rowling.' She couldn't have Imagined anything like it in a thousand years.

    We may all bitch about it but we are all a sucker for 'good guys vs bad guys' stories, they appeal to the little Disney-loving kid in all of us.
     
  6. sgtoutlaw

    sgtoutlaw Second Year

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    I like the stories of the young magic user saving the day, but I generally like it when they actually get stronger. I can hardly say he got any better through the entire series.

    Other then that, it could have been something like in The Belgariad at least.

    Oh, and who wouldn't love writing a book that isn't that great really, but making millions off of it? xD
     
  7. Chaotic Harmony

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    The Power He Knows Not! Was most definitely friends! Harry had all his “friends” that helped him through his emo faggitoryness, if he had been a friendless orphan loser he would have become just as big a meanie as Voldemort. It also was with his friends help that he even came close to defeating Voldi. Without friends, something the Dark Lord had none off (he only had servants and more servants), Harry would have never figured out how to get past the "challenges" in Philosophers Stone (Sorcerers Stone. Whatever.), the devils snare alone would have butsecksed him hard.

    ^ That is in no way to be taken seriously.

    Honestly I believe PHKN, was just like most of her work, an already used idea that she thought would make her sound as if she knew what the fuck it was she was doing as a "professional" author.
     
  8. Breed

    Breed Third Year

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    Does anyone else think that Horcruxes are just a blatant rip of The One Ring from LOTR?

    PHKN for me was Love and Acceptance of Death. He was willing to die for people he loved, which Voldemort, who was afraid of death was not willing to do. The whole thing just added up to a 'sacrifice yourself for the greater good, and everything will turn out okay' kind of thing. I wouldn't be suprised if suicide bombers have copies of HP along with Al-Qaeda brainwashing videos.

    What was needed was this dialogue somewhere:

    Voldemort: "Join me Harry! We can rule over all!"

    Harry: "No, I'll never join you. You killed my father!"

    Voldemort: "No Harry, I AM your father."

    Books 1-5 were good, but I kinda got bored halfway through 6, and I had to force myself to finish 7.
     
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  9. Knox

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    The power he knows not" is the Hallows. Voldemort knew OF them and while he possessed one he had no idea it was Harry who actually held power over it. And he had no idea Harry had the other Hallows. >_> Done, Finished, Tag em' and Bag em'.
     
  10. Warlocke

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    Meh. It's a closer match to a Lich's phylactery from D&D, which is... Well, it's the same damned thing. :)

    The one ring had powers of its own and apparently made it much harder to kill Sauron. Horcruxes and Phylacteries only cover the 'harder to kill' bit.
     
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  11. Nuhuh

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    The idea of Horcruxes is damn old. Or basically the idea of hiding your 'life force' 'soul' 'mortality' in an object and then putting it away from you physically. I have seen it in Persian folktales and there is a particular Germanic one, if I can find it I'll put in an excerpt.

    So that particular idea could be anywhere from fiction history or folktales.
     
  12. Knox

    Knox The Last Remnant DLP Supporter

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    I'm sure a few old Grimm, or some such, stories had a similar thing in them, I remember hearing of it before HP that's for sure.
     
  13. maidros

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    It has even made it into the `Evil Overlords list' which says that `The object/s which can kill me won't be placed on Mount of Despair, beyond the River of Fire, guarded by Dragons of Eternity. They will be in my safe deposit box'

    As for the Horcruxes themselves, they appear ad nauseaum in Indian myth. Every sorcerer of note places his life force in a pigeon/parrot/magic stone and seals it away in a safe place.

    Finally, the 'Power he knows not' is author power, or the power of deus ex machina. That is all there is to it.
    Regards,
    Maidros
     
  14. Anarual

    Anarual Seventh Year DLP Supporter

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    Am I the only one who wasn't able to finish book 7 because I thought it was pure 100% FAIL and stopped reading after the first 100 pages?

    Btw. The power had to be pure dumb luck or just sheer idiocy , Harry was retarded in that book...
     
  15. Blaise

    Blaise Golden Patronus

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    No, you're not. In fact, a good number of people didn't even start book 7, if they're to be believed.
     
  16. maidros

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    Hardly surprising. Book 6 killed off any interest I had in the series. I never read, nor do I have any plans to read, Book 7.
     
  17. Kenshkrix

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    DLP's review of book 7 convinced me that I don't want to purchase it.
     
  18. peregrine1989

    peregrine1989 Third Year

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    I am one of those Sad people who woke up real early to get book six and seven. After Six you would have thought I would have learned.

    As to the Power he Knows not... That is either totally forgotten about or more something completely irrelevant.
    I refuse to see the Deathly Hallows as the Power he knows not, as thats just a plot device made up by an Author who was starting to realise that it was really hard to come up with a way for Harry to win, what with the Anti-dark attitude and everything.

    I always thought of it to be the power of shitty Girl friends. Examples include;
    Emotionally unstable Cho Chang.
    Ginny 'the stalker' Weasley.
    and Parvati 'I am pretty yet don't get a date until the last minute' Patil.

    I don't care what you say she had a date then dropped it at the last minute to go with 'The-Boy-Who-Lived.'

    Oh and the fact that he ended up choosing Ginny means she was the 'best' of a Bad bunch. I really have no idea what that says for his other love interests.
     
  19. Knox

    Knox The Last Remnant DLP Supporter

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    Hey now leave Cho and Parvati out of this.

    Edit: 500 posts!
     
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  20. Schrodinger

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    The power he knows not was definitely being a suicidal retard who can come back to life randomly. I don't think Voldemort was expecting Harry to bounce back from death after an AK, so it was something Voldemort knew not. a way to come back to life without sacrificing your humanity. Voldemort also did not understand why someone would get themselves killed for a bunch of backstabbing sheep, so that works too.
     
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