I don't know if we have a general speculation thread. If we do sorry I'm not even sorry. I'm rereading the series. Well more like listening to the audiobooks for the first time and fucking James Marsters man. Just bow. Dude is phenomenal. I actually understood why the mantle went to Molly now. Hearing it makes a lot more sense and the foreshadowing has been laid out since Grave Peril.

There's so many hints and clues and hanging plots that I'm just like damn I wish Dresden would sit down and think about them some more. So what's your guys theories on some of the lingering mysteries we've got so far:

*Starborn
*Malcolm Dresden
-unnatural death, according to Chaunzaggoroth
-could only visit Harry in dreams until certain conditions had been met by others
*The Mothers most powerful name
*Cowl, Kumori identities
*Who fixed Little Chicago
*There was someone else at Chichen Itza who shouted Fuego
*Who is Dresden's grandmother
*Better yet who the hell knocked up Mab
*The Circle
*Just how big will Toot finally be
*Is the parasite Lash... or Nemesis
*Was Bianca infected with Nemesis or just Black Council. After all, it was her party that kickstarted the war and evvvvvverybody was there.
*As much as Margaret plans things through do you think Thomas being born on Valentine's Day will give him an out to being cured. I can't see her as the sort to not care about her firstborn being a vampire while giving her second tools to help him along.

That's just some points off the top of my head to jump things off. Any other plot points are relevant too. Crazy ideas and theories no matter how wild are more than welcome.

 

It was mentioned in one of the earlier books, I forget which, that he writes his case notes (the books) at the end of each case.

Now it's been mentioned I want to know who Harry's grandmother is. I never considered it before though.

I'm assuming that by The Circle you mean the Black Council?

 

I had noticed that too, but they were in Central America, and someone yelling "fire" right before a bunch of guys with guns started shooting at Harry probably isn't all that suspicious an occurrence.

Still like the idea of Cowl and Kumori being alternate-future versions of Harry and Molly.

 

Butcher has said that Harry is going to break the law about meddling with time in book 17 or something like that. So maybe we'll find out about Little Chicago then.

Lovely idea, this. I just listened to Small Favour, where Mac gives Murphy and Harry some beer after they've seen off the Gruff that Harry describes as "God's beer."

It struck me that he might've been literally correct there if Mac is an angel who has given up his wings or whatever.

I'm sorta curious about one of the last things Harry told Lasciel in White Night.

"After which, we were going to have a long talk about my mother and these outsiders and their relation to the Black Court and exactly what the hell was going on."

The Black Court makes no sense to me in this context. I've long been convinced it's a typo. What do they Black Court vampires have to do with outsiders? The connection has never been made before or since.

 

I doubt it. Remember the first line of the series. "My name is Harry Blackstone Copperfield Dresden. Conjure by it at your own risk." Those aren't the words of Harry at the start of the series. The read very much like a post-series Dresden penning his memoirs.

That does give a possible hint at Harry's future though, since the journals that Ebenezar left out for him to read are possibly those of the Blackstaff.

 

They're the journal of his master and back. I don't see why the Blackstaff would pass down to people based on that.

 

We know that Ebenezar is the Blackstaff and that he has been for a very long time. We also know that it's a secret position that doesn't officially exist. If Harry were to take on those journals at some point, he would presumably find out about the Blackstaff position.

I believe Ebenezar wrote in those same journals that he feels Harry is not ready to hold 'that mantle' yet. I think he meant the Blackstaff there. Also (and I hate using this argument), we don't know how the Blackstaff is passed on. Could be mentor-apprentice, could be by decision of the Senior Council.

Just putting it out there as a possibility.

 

Hmm wasn't there a quote in Cold Days which mentioned that Nemesis influenced almost everything which occurrs in the series?

This is one of my personal pet peeve in fantasy.


I also want to know more about Mac. An outsider calling him 'Watcher' iirc. Wtf is all that about.

 

Bets on Mac being an Angel, or a former Angel. There's a choir of Angels called the Grigori, also known as the Watchers.

 

Like Ben Affleck in Dogma.

 

In relation to Mother Winter and Mother Summer, I did a bunch of research trying to determine who they might actually be for a fic. I previously decided they might be the Greek Moirai/Fates (or the Roman equivalent: the Parcae). Aside from their duties in relation to the seasons, one of them is seen with fruit and baskets and the like, and one is seen weaving on a loom, which I assumed to be Ma Summer and Ma Winter respectively. However in most incarnations of these deities, there're three women, not too. Aside from that they seem subordinate to Zeus, and are sometimes portrayed as his daughters, and judging from the power hierarchy in the Dresden Files this is unlikely to be true.

However it is entirely possible that current mythology is not entirely accurate and that they really are the Fates or at least took on that role at one point, given that one of Mother Winter's names is Atropos, who is a Greek Moira, and the other is Skuld, a Norn (Norns are the Germanic equivalent of the Moira).

In terms of how powerful they seem to be, I decided Mother Summer was the Greek primordial entity Hemera, or at least that's one of her names, and Mother Summer is the corresponding sister Nyx. In the most basic definition, Hemera is the personification of Day, and Nyx, the personification of Night. I couldn't find any common name for both of them, but then again I doubt Butcher would go the obvious or easy route. Just my thoughts.

 

Or Diana. The goddess Wicca worship. (I think that's the one, anyways.)

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Soo... It looks like maybe the Red Court isn't all gone after all.

http://9gag.com/gag/aYbZRYV

 

Odds are more will be revealed soon. All we know so far is that it gives Harry power over the outsiders, that his mother planned it and that this was how he was able to fight off a mental attack from He Who Walks Before that crippled the entire hunt. No doubt it will become more relevant as the end approaches and the role outsiders start to play will grow larger.

Oh, we also know its not unique (Elaine has the potential to be one atleast) and that there was another running around when the previous Winter Lady died.

Well, supposedly he was perfectly normal human. Just a very good man according to Eb.

I think there was a Word of God about this. I think it was something about fates.

No clue. Lots of speculation though. I have even heard it suggested that those two are Harry and Molly from the future. Worth pointing out though that we havent seen Kumori in a while. Might be that she is dead.

Again, lots of speculation with no clear answers. Mab, Lea, Uriel, Gatekeeper and Harry from the future are all possibilities I have seen.

As was said, its just someone yelling people to open fire with guns. Means nothing except a sort of joke.

By Word of God, she is long dead and plays no role in things anymore.

No clue.

Presumably something to do with outsiders. We don't really know more yet.

As Harry grows in power, so will Toot it seems. Would not surprise me if he becomes human sized before the end of the series.

Oh there is so much speculation about the parasite. Lots and lots of potential candidates have been brought up. Amusingly, there is a theory which would answer your question with: Both.

That is to say, Lash was infected by Nemesis when she was struck by the psychic attack from the outsider. And the headaches are Lash fighting back against the infection.

She was rather unstable. I would not be surprised if she was more like Lily. Someone that was totally uninfected, but just being manipulated.

I think there is a Word of God that states that Margaret was less concerned about Thomas than Harry, because he believed that Thomas was a survivor or something and would not need help.

Yes. By Lily. Who was told this by Maeve. Who was Nemesis all along, could lie and was infact taking great pleasure at being able to do so. Odds are Nemesis had nothing to do with any of the events mentioned, Maeve probably lied when she said Nemesis was behind everything to breed distrust and because she could, and Lily believed it because she was still under the false assumption that Maeve was incapable of lying.

Odds are Nemesis is behind a lot of the more major things, but I seriously doubt he is behind everything. Just the parts that are related to outsiders somehow.

 

Didn't Harry get stupidly lucky a number of times at Chichen Itza? I seem to recall that he even mentions it. That makes me think Harry was helping himself out from a different place in the timeline.

Same with Little Chicago.

 

I still believe that time travel was involved at Chitzen Itza. If I believe it enough maybe it will come true!

As for Nemesis, the Gatekeeper tells Harry that almost every major incident in Harry's life has foiled an Outsider plan, or something along those lines.

 

All three swords were there. One of the Archangels declared doom upon the Red Court. I think it's pretty safe to say a lot of divine intervention occurred.

 

I forgot about Mac. To get his bar declared neutral territory he would need two witnesses like Marcone to sign to the Accords. So I always figured Mac was someone dangerous. I never speculated on angel, but masquerading as a bartender seems very Touched By An Angel to me. I hope he's the previous Gatekeeper or just some kind of immortal Outsider specialist, like Abel.