I am seriously confused at the moment; I have been since yesterday. My main picks for the Separatists (Sesc and Kai) subsisted on the existence of a shared QT between them, but Sesc claimed the Galactic Senator, which is a role we should try to get night-killed rather than lynched (lynches are for Separatists). Now I seriously doubt my scumdar and wonder if I'm always this pants-on retarded. First Fiat, then Little Knee, and now -

Kai himself confuses me. Lots of people are piling accusations of Separatism onto him, yet he had that weird, pro-town Seer Plan. He wanted to use Sesc as the lynch-bait instead of himself, and I don't know what to think anymore. I say he's innocent, and he'll probably reveal himself as Xanatos. I say he's guilty, and he'll probably be the Probe, or something.

Both ways, I'm the laughingstock. D:

And now with this AWOL Renegagade (wtf?), I need some time to think and fix my scumdar through this confusing bullshit. For now, I'll lay-off the accusations and take a backseat. My suspicions have proven to serve nobody. =/

 

What I think we have right here, ladies and gentlemen, is an opportunity. If Sesc is the Galactic Senator, we have a chance for a beautiful trap. Tonight there are three possible ways for a Night Kill, but we have a ticking bomb. With Sesc's permission, might I recommend that the Jedi Master use his bus driver powers to switch a random person with Sesc tonight? That way he can activate his trap card and deal a blow to the Seperatists while saving the glorious Republic.

 

This plan is bad because it involves killing basically the only (semi-confirmed) townie we have.

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It's different (and worse) from what I suggested yesterday for a few reasons

1. I suggested my plan yesterday BEFORE Sesc roleclaimed
2. My plan wasn't 'kill the senator so another person can randomly die'

 

While this is true, it could also give us an extra shot in the dark. Sesc, what do you think?

 

Actually, the plan is a little wonky, since it relies on either the 'randomly selected' target to be targeted, and thus switched with Sesc, or it results in Sesc being targeted and a random target, more likely than not an innocent, being randomly killed.

Also, I'm actually a little bit more confident in my proposed idea that the Healer happened to target the Renegade. I really can't imagine any good reason why the Renegade would not have killed somebody last night. Presuming they did taint on the first night, since they could not yet kill anybody. I guess that they can opt of their night actions, but it seems like a rather unlikely course of action.

 

Well, me being me means that I'm not going to support a lynch on myself (for obvious reasons?)

I'd be kind of ok with a zeitgeist lynch (mostly because it's not me) but I'd really like to see the focus of the game shift away from me, zeit and sesc for a while because it seems like many people are just flying under the radar.

 

Personal investment derived activity levels, as well as timezones(hello to the normally would be sleeping Sesc) are a nuisance that, for better or for worse, needs to be worked with them in mind. The former is a highly relative sense though, since it is difficult to determine whether someone's activity levels are related to their role, current events in their life, or simply just how they are or choose to play.

 

what?

I'm just saying that many people are staying out of public eye because of the insane amounts of attention on myself, sesc and zeit.

 

Oh, I wasn't denying that. Heck, in the two games that had Fiat and Zeitgeist together previously, their... discussions... certainly cast a shroud over everything else. I was merely giving an objective statement about activity levels that could apply independently of that.

 

Well, Kai, as scummy as I think you are, I'm willing to go after someone else. After all, there's more than one Separatist here. I've said in the past that I am suspicious of calutron, for the reasons quoted below.

No one else really stands out to me, since Sesc is pro-town. I'd love to hear who you guys are suspicious of.

 

Heh. I'm actually quite surprised that nemrut wasn't some kind of scum. Going to defer to the bandwagon for a few days, I think. Clearly my Mafia intuition is not what I thought it was, lol.

 

ok - one other idea to cement the 'Sesc is trueclaiming senator thing'.

If Sesc is NOT the Senator, and you ARE the Senator, tell us now.

Then we will lynch one of you today.

If we lynch the fake-claiming senator (ie: they die and are shown to be scum) then that's great! The person we didn't lynch is 100% town.

If we lynch the real senator, they should kill the person fake-claiming senator. This is an ok result too, because trading 1:1 town for rebel is (almost always - and in this case it is) a good trade for town (But I'd like it more if we lynched the fake-senator to start with).

If nobody else claims Senator today, I (and everyone else) will assume Sesc is 100% town.

This is bad if Sesc is infact scum, so if you are the real senator and you don't counter-claim sesc today, that is VERY VERY BADLY -ev town. Also, I will push for you to be lynched d1 in any games that we happen to play together in future just on principle.

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I'm sorry for making another post about sesc, but I think this needed to be said!

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If you are innocent but NOT the senator, do not lie about being the Senator. This is also -ev town.

 

Fuck Lutris was killed.

He may have a role or something and if he had a role, we must be wary of anyone who comes out with a role.

I am mostly suspicious of Nae'blis and SmileOftheKill after reading the posts.

Why did you randomly vote for Kai, SmilefFtheKill?

 

As I said earlier, I'd rather we look at other people today and revisit me tomorrow maybe?

The days aren't really long enough such that we can pressure two people in one day, so yeah...

I think I've said a lot as far as expressing my ideas go, so getting someone who hasn't talked much to talk is probably a good thing.

 

Klackerz : Don't worry so much man.... It's not like you actually investigated anyone in SW1... You took a shot in the dark and managed to hit nearly everybody. So even if Lutris was the probe mechanic... There's no need to bury our heads in sand

 

I was just honestly following Sesc with my first vote.

I have been incredibly busy with work this week so my semi-retarded short posts was all I was able to manage, and what I did follow was Sesc. I thought that Sesc was being truthful, so there went my original vote. Aft-wards, seeing how KaiDASH got everyone to vote for Nemrut... well I now really do think he is scum.

Mind, all this logic is following that Sesc is telling the truth. If he is, KaiDASH needs to die.

 

How does Sesc being town make me scum?

 

Vote Player: kaiDASH.

I haven't been around lately. Time zone is fucking me over. But I have reason to believe kaiDASH is hiding something. He wasn't upfront about some of the behind the scene actions. I won't be answering any questions that compromise my role, but some might figure it out. (I'm not the probe, btw)

I should've done this earlier, but then Sesc tried to start a bandwagon against me, and I was worried that quickly blaming someone else might be seen as too defensive and might as well lead to my lynching.

So die KaiDASH.

EDIT: OH, and Sesc, lern2Apostrophe. :|