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STAR WARS II (A Death Eaters/Mafia Variant) :: Concluded [Republic Win]

Discussion in 'Little Italy' started by Vesvius, Oct 4, 2011.

  1. Kang

    Kang Denarii Host DLP Supporter

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    Hey guys just got back from the airport so sorry for not reporting in earlier.

    I agree with the must lynch on day one especially with a target people are suspicious of. You guys remember Ashaya from the first? If we dont lynch Schrodinger then it will keep coming up and the Sith will use it to divide the lynch votes.

    That being said we should not mistake stupidity and naivity for scumbagdoucheness and also lets not follow blindly what the more experienced players say - they may be Sith after all.

    Vote Player: Schrodinger
     
  2. Klackerz

    Klackerz Bridgeburner

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    Wow ninjae'd by Kang. So ignore the Kang part of my post.

    Then hgf or calutron :3

    ---------- Post automerged at 03:34 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:26 PM ----------

    I have some serious fucking connection problems :facepalm

    Also

    You are just too high profile to stay low profile Lutris. :3

    Also I don't like lynching on the first day since chances of getting a citizen are just too high.

    So I am not voting now and if I vote it will probably be for some of the lurkers like Calutron,hgf or Kang.

    I want to vote for Calutron or hgf just because of SW1.
     
    Last edited: Oct 4, 2011
  3. Lutris

    Lutris Jarl Dovahkiin DLP Supporter

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    D fucking 8.

    /contributin'
     
  4. Kang

    Kang Denarii Host DLP Supporter

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    > Posts same amount in thread
    > Gets called lurker
     
  5. calutron

    calutron Unspeakable

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    KaiDash, you analysis of Schrodingers death is not entirely correct.

    Much like Schrodingers cat in the real world, we will not know the status of Schrodinger till the box is opened.

    Schrodinger can in addition to being a townie or a rebel, may also be a darklord.

    Additionally, while the prime accusers that might lead to Schrodingers death might be innocent, those who have entered the bandwagon in the middle, and give it momentum are particularly suspectible. All this assuming of course that Schrodinger is lynched and turns out to be a townie.


    Klackerz fuuu, and study law of indepandant events in probability theory.
     
  6. Schrodinger

    Schrodinger Muggle ~ Prestige ~

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    The thing is, at this point I'm the perfect target for a covered-up night kill: it'll get everyone all confuzzled about who I really am.
    I'd rather clear the air and die like a man for the Republic than have my body used as a tool by the Seperatists.
    So go ahead and lynch me. No hard feeling. (except for Sesc).
     
  7. Kang

    Kang Denarii Host DLP Supporter

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    QFT

    That or the surgeon covers it up and we are like whaaaaaaa?!?
     
  8. SmileOfTheKill

    SmileOfTheKill Magical Amber

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    THE CONFUSION IS OVERWHELMING.

    This is going to be a fun one.

    Voteee.... I dunno.
     
  9. Klackerz

    Klackerz Bridgeburner

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    Schrodinger seems innocent imo.

    @calutron:What can I say, my past is coloring my mind. Also learn to spell. :3
     
  10. Nemrut

    Nemrut The Black Mage ~ Prestige ~

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    Well, I don't know about advising "unreasonable caution" and the "deliberately spreading uncertainty" parts. I just think we need a bit more than more or less random finger pointing to lynch someone on the first day.

    I think Rats said in in game one or two that the probability of nailing a pro-town role is higher than catching and anti-town one and I believe he was right. Now, I am not at all experienced in this game like others are, this is my second game, but I just don't see the big appeal of first day lynching that is more or less random.

    I know this is going to make me more suspicious and it is true that Schro is probably going to divide votes from now on if he isn't lynched, so yes, it is probably going to be better in the long run if he gets killed soon, but it shouldn't have come to this so fast.

    I will wait a bit until more people have voiced their opinion before I cast my vote, if I do so, that is. First day lynching just seems to be a chance game with little probability of hitting the right target. I just don't see the advantage.
     
  11. Relic

    Relic High Inquisitor

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    So if Scho is lynched and he is indeed a townie then you get off scot free because you just voted for him because he's annoying.

    Though, other people voted for the same reason - you seem either like a scummie (sp?) townie or actual scum.

    Go after Taure first imo, then if he turns out to be a townie - try Nemrut, but if Taure is Scum my next bet would be Ashaya.
     
  12. Taure

    Taure Magical Core Enthusiast ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    Oh, we're certainly likely to lynch an innocent on day 1. But if we refrain from lynching because of this, then day 2 just becomes the new day 1, and you're in exactly the same situation, only with a person dead from a night kill.

    Sure, you have a bit of information from the identity of the night kill, and you have some information from roles, if the people with those roles come forward (often unwise) and are believed (often unlikely). Excluding psychic Asians, the information gained via these roles takes time to accumulate into something useful enough to actually lynch with confidence. If we only lynched when we had confidence, we'd probably be waiting night upon night upon night to decide who to lynch. Meanwhile, the Separatists are picking off citizens one by one.

    Essentially, we can't rely on the information from roles to lynch. We have to do it on the basis of how people behave. Roles are handy and add flavour and fun to the game, but the basic mechanic is still "He sounds a bit dodgy, I think we should drop him down a well."

    Relic: what part of the above reasoning do you disagree with? The idea of "must lynch someone" is endorsed by many of DLP's Mafia experts.

    ---------- Post automerged at 01:15 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:10 PM ----------

    Addition:

    That kinda left the last part of the argument unsaid.

    Given that we need to lynch on the basis of behaviour, lynching someone is a good way to see how people behave and react, which gives you something more to lynch from than randomness. But you need a pretty much random lynching to get the thing started.

    I'm not saying that it has to be Schrodinger. Just that he is as good a person as any, and there were votes all ready for him. I'm not going to rescind my vote at this stage, because that runs the risk of no lynch. But if another, stronger, bandwagon forms, I'll certainly join it.
     
  13. Vesvius

    Vesvius High Inquisitor DLP Supporter

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    Voting recap so far

    Schrodinger: 6 Votes
    Sesc, KaiDASH, Ashaya, Taure, Oliver of Kingston, Kang

    KaiDASH: 1 Vote
    Schrodinger

    Taure: 1 Vote
    Relic

    Yet to Vote: 14
    Calutron, Custer, Fenraelis, Hgf, Jwlk, Klackerz, Lutris, Nae'blis, Nemrut, Riley Poole, Scrib, Silens Cursor, SmileOfTheKill, Zeitgeist

    There are 22 Players so 12 are needed for a lynch.

    Day ends at 10:00 PM EST tonight, so 11 1/2 hours left.
     
    Last edited: Oct 4, 2011
  14. hgf

    hgf Fourth Year

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    Well, I'm willing to lynch Schrodinger. Don't really care who it is at this point. Better just get someone lynched. I don't have much to say and I'm not exactly sober right now so I'll leave it at this.

    Vote Player: Schrodinger
     
  15. Silens Cursor

    Silens Cursor The Silencer DLP Supporter

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    Maybe it's just me, but Kai really doesn't come in any way like an anti-town character, and to be completely honest, neither does Schro as an RPer. If anything, I agree with calutron - it makes sense for the Sith to jump on board for lynching during the middle or end of a bandwagon.

    So, going off of that knowledge, and the general nonchalance to the choice, and knowing that people have used 'drunken posting' to come off as innocent before, my greatest suspicions fall on hgf. I'm not going to call for a lynch quite yet, but there's something there I don't trust.
     
  16. hgf

    hgf Fourth Year

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    Well, I'm definitely not the only one that's nonchalant about it, most people just try to go with something like "I don't like it but I'm still voting for x", which I did as well in the last game where I was anti-town. I just really don't care at all who is lynched today. My only suspicions are completely baseless "feelings" that I get from reading what people post. For what it's worth I think KaiDASH is suspicious because he just seems suspicious.

    When it's like that it doesn't really matter whether or not I vote with the bandwagon or not.
     
  17. Klackerz

    Klackerz Bridgeburner

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    I don't KaiDASH is suspicious.He's seems more bitter to me than anything else. :3
     
  18. calutron

    calutron Unspeakable

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    I think we can all agree the Schro will most likely end up being a townie, so a reasonable assumption to make about those who would want to lynch him is that at least a few of them are rebels, voting to push along the death cart.

    I am going to vote for OllieK, since he seems to be closely emulating hgf last game.

    Vote Player : Olliver of Kingston

    As I said, there is nothing about Ollie that makes him any more suspicious than, Schrodinger, other than the fact that he was bandwagoning and the list of bandwagoners has a better ratio of town:mafia than the game at large.
     
  19. Another Empty Frame

    Another Empty Frame Fake Flamingo DLP Supporter

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    After reading the posts that I woke up to, I have a couple things to say.

    Custer, you make a good point, but I feel safer having someone lynched than what Schrodinger said will likely happen, a cleaned up night kill.

    Calutron, really starting in on me due to one post? Perhaps I'm not one of your separatists and if you're one of them then for obvious reasons you decide to target me for a lynching.

    Separatists go ahead and kill me, if it's needed for the Republic to draw you out, I don't mind.
     
  20. Nae

    Nae The Violent

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    Vote Player: Schrodinger

    We need a lynch, and thus far, accusations are flying in every direction. A decision has to be made soon. Schrodinger it is.

    It's too early to tell about everyone else, but I'm having a bad feeling about calutron.
     
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