Well there was that time that you claimed to be a woman. You've always been a bit suspicious since then~

 

I'd be surprised if every single scum voted for Ollie, they usually try and spread it up a bit, unless they know I would think that automatically... Anyways, even though Eidolonic has me as confirmed town, I'm a bit suspicious of him. At this point after the recent events I have to be on his town read because if I wasn't, he would look extremely scummy.

I feel like Jeram's last post voting for Ollie makes him less scummy to me. If a scum knows that Ollie already has enough votes and will show up as innocent after his death, wouldn't he want to not vote for him unless he had to? Anyway I have a town feel on him for that reason.

Also would be surprised if Schrodinger was scum at this point. If I were scum and got mentioned on a witch list at the very bottom so was in no near danger of having a lynch start on me, I wouldn't bring it to everyone's attention asking what was scummy about me. I would rather it just be forgotten and not bring it up at all unless it became a bigger issue.

 

You could be right about Jeram, but like... I'm not sure if new!derp, or scum. I don't think I've liked any of his posts, and that 'tacking vote on at end' thing was... I dunno. It felt more scummy to me than town?

Would you, or someone else, mind looking over /all/ of Jeram's posts and doing some analysis on them? He's not really in any risk of being on the chopping block today, I suppose - it's almost certainly one of Vira, Kalas, or BillDoor (I'm noting that I'm okay with all three, but would prefer one of the last two - Kalas in particular).

My reasoning for Kalas lynch is that his flip is by far the most informative flip we could possibly get. If it's town, I'm wrong about pretty much everything, and I'm not even sure where to start looking for scum. Probably in the clump of people that I've decided are slightly derping town. But if he flips scum, then we have a very distinct thing to go off of - the hardcore defense of him by BillDoor, and the ugliness of that Ollie wagon.

Also! As to why Aekiel was killed last night. He was the first person to hop onto Nae'blis and vote, and there may have been suspicion in the scum camp that he was the cop, and had a guilty check. It's a small thing, but a possibility regardless. It'd be a poor assumption, but I'm not... going to assume competence until it's proven to me, I don't think. Because that whole Nae'blis/Ollie hopping around yesterday was ugly and bad.

Bit of a rambling post to say that I want Kalas or Bill dead, and I'm not really picky which one. If they flip scum, I want the other one dead tomorrow. And if there's no better leads by the day after that, Vira works pretty well. But hopefully our cop sniffs out one or two of the other scum.

 

I wasn't actually defending him, although I don't particularly think he's scum, I was criticising the bandwagon on him, and the people involved.

Also do you want to answer the question from my last post?

 

It's worth noting that we have 9 town alive, and 4 scum. It's actually going to be relatively difficult to get majority from here on out.

Schro - I'm assuming he gave you a suspicion point for your Ollie votepost, and not switching over to Nae'blis when it was pretty clearly the superior lynch, over someone that everyone had as a town read. Entirely possible you not switching wasn't your fault, because of the short days and time zones existing. But it was worth mentioning.

 

Still haven't been told why you figured me for suspicious, man.
And if Vira an Naeblis are our main suspects, why the heck are we going for Kalas or Bill?

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Oh, ninja'd. And that makes sense. I was probably either asleep or in school, since those activities consume 2/3s of my days combined.

 

There were 4 replacements.

Nae'blis is now Kalas.
Hgf is now Cheddar.
Taure is now Sesc.
Stojil is now Krogan.

My view on current gamestate is - if Kalas (Nae'blis) is scum, so is Bill. Vira is just scummy in general, and could be scum with them, or in the unlikely event they're town, scum in another scumteam. My preference is to hit one of the linked scum, though, since it would mean two days of scumlynches if we're right.

 

Again Eido would you mind answering my question?

Also I'd like to see some more from Custer, he hasn't made any sort of serious post yet.

 

Well, I'm mostly ignoring the obvious scum, admittedly.

It's nothing personal, and isn't really your fault - you aren't exactly going to admit to being scum, and go down without a fight. And I wouldn't expect you to.

But I've pretty thoroughly explained why the Kalas slot is scum, and who I think is scum along with it. And you're doing a pretty delightful job of linking yourself to him, instead of doing something that might change minds about you being scum, like doing some scum hunting of your own.

Basically, the biggest mistake scum make is actually responding to pressure defensively. I was much less certain than I initially appeared to be about my scum reads on Kalas and yourself, but your reactions today solidified them greatly. I'm mostly just trying to figure out who makes the most sense along with you two, at this point.

Vira is possible. Same with Republic. And Jeram. And mayyybe Cheddar. Custer could be a no-content scum. And I probably shouldn't dismiss Krogan, despite thinking Stojil was town and tunneling on me. All kinds of fun possibilities, no?

Tell you what, Bill. If you're convinced you/Kalas are town, why don't you help me scum hunt?

Pick two names out of this list that you think are the most likely scum. I promise it's totally unrelated.

Vira, Republic, Jeram, Cheddar, Krogan.

 

Tbh, I can't get a damn read on anyone and am desperately hiding it with poor trolling while I try to reread. Currently feeling the clearest scum is Nae'blis/Kalas so...

Vote Player: Kalas

I'd be willing to change to Vira or Bill if one of those bandwagons pick up, but that's where I stand for the current moment.

 

I'm a fucking moron.
Anyways, I gotta agree with custer. Naeblis slot.
Vote Player: Kalas
What's the verdict on LochNess?

 

LochNess is pretty clear town at this point, I think. Her refusal to vote Ollie doesn't really clear her, but switching to Nae'blis freely and staying there makes me pretty happy about her. That's subject to change if Kalas flips town, I should note.

 

I know, I've experienced this rather intimately, as I'm sure you remember. But do you really think I'm so stupid as to make the same mistake again?

 

I'm not sure there's a polite way to answer that.

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Quickedit, attempt to doublepost.

I don't think you're stupid, no. I just think you're still new to mafia, and you haven't been town yet, to really grasp how town should handle pressure. You basically want to ignore it, and continue doing things to help town. Hunt, hunt, hunt. You dying, or us being wrong in one instance of suspecting someone isn't going to lose the game - you just want to get as many reads and as much information possible as out there. That long carefully crafted post at the start of the day just absolutely reeked of scum.

Town are much less likely to have that 'crafted' feel to their posts, and it be more information laden, and yes, a touch more aggressive. I probably shouldn't be saying this while a game is still going on, but I understand that you're trying, and you aren't doing that badly. It's just the little things.

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Unrelated note:

I wouldn't mind getting a chunk of Twilight time today, actually. It's the time we have in between someone getting lynched, and the day officially ending, where we see what the flip was, and can discuss plans for the night/next day.

There are two drastically different paths for this game to take, depending on how Kalas flips, and having some time to talk about possible cop check targets is not a bad thing at all. I'm ~75% sure that Kalas/Bill are scum, but that still does leave 25% where I'm a terrible human being and am stupid, etc, etc, and we would need to see what to do in order to make up for the ground lost.

 

Y'know what would actually help? If people lurked a little less and started voting. *lehypocriticalcough*

 

I'm sliiiiighhhtly drunk so not posting much.

But where the fuck are peoples and why no posts and votes.

Day ends at batshit crazy hour of morning or something. It's up there somewhere.

Obviously scum not voting but town need voting. Don't make the first tree days all be bad.

 

I already voted. Anyone who doesn't vote is confiremed scum, AFAIC,

 

I just finished like 12 hours of Game of Thrones board gaming, and I'm about to go back, so I'm going to make this quick and quote some awesome posts of awesomeness. I will be back periodically before I go to bed, I just didn't have a chance to check DLP all day.

Agree with most of this. 'Desperately latched on' indeed.

This post also deserves to be repeated.

Also this.

I think Bill and Vira are highest to me, though honestly, all three are fairly even.

:facepalm

I'd include Jeram in that, though at a 1, certainly not high priority. I have a strong townread from Sesc after those awesome posts that articulated my thoughts so well.

I am about equally interested in Kalas and Vira. I think with Kalas/Bill scum team, that'd be a very interesting role reveal if you lynch either of them. With Vira, I have just as strong a feeling. So, I think that Kalas is the better target, with either Bill or Vira tomorrow.

As I said, I'll be back to see any responses, etc, but for right now I am going to

Vote Player: Kalas

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So, Sesc, can you switch to Kalas? As I said, I'm equally comfortable with a Vira lynch, but I think Kalas/BillDoor are possibly a scumteam, so this rolereveal could be very very helpful.

 

Whatever. Even if I didn't see Nae'blis as suspicious, I suck at reading people anyways. I'd rather have someone lynched than no lynch.

Vote Player: Kalas.