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Supernatural

Discussion in 'Movies, Music and TV shows' started by Cyclops, May 17, 2007.

  1. syed

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    The thing is the demon Sam was questioning never had the idea that sam was trying to seal hell, why wouldn't he tell sam how to get into hell. Also, once in purgatory why would anyone notice, the monsters went after dean because they could feel castiel. Sam was just something else out in the mists. Also, why on earth would things in purgatory would know where reapers traveled in there.

    The angel tablet may tell how to summon/resurect angels, so that could be how Gabriel is seen again, or Metatron found?

    Crowley claimed he could read his half of the tablet, so who did he get to translate it?

    I wonder if we will ever see the return of jesse? He would be perfect for the MoL.
     
  2. draconian139

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    I'm wondering something about last episode:

    Kevin was supposed to just be hallucinating Crowley, right? It just seems so strange that the window was back in place when Sam/Dean got there(though that could have just been to throw them off) and that Crowley somehow got through all the wards. I'm thinking that spending all of his time doing nothing but studying a tablet about demons is driving him insane and this was just a worse manifestation than him hearing Crowley's voice.

    We don't see him actually take Kevin either, instead it fades out and we just hear Kevin screaming. I mean if Crowley really can get by the wards that easily and he's been in Kevin's head for a bit why has he waited? What bothers me is that there's been a lot of things that haven't made too much sense these past couple seasons and I'm not sure whether it actually was a hallucination like it seems or they're actually going with Crowley taking him.

    In terms of Bobby being in hell, my first thought was that it was a remnant of when he traded his soul to Crowley in season five. I know Crowley returned his soul but I thought he may have found a way to use the initial deal anyways. I was disappointed when they didn't reference that at all. Hell in general was just far too tame, I mean the glimpse that we got of Dean being tortured in hell was far worse. I know that there's other parts of hell but you'd expect Bobby to be in one of the worst areas, and that little jail cell just didn't cut it.
     
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  3. syed

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    My money is that Naomi interfering, with mind games and secret deals.
     
  4. Jon

    Jon The Demon Mayor Admin DLP Supporter

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    Actually Hell was supposed to be a massive queue.

    The writers plothole'd themselves.
     
  5. LOUD-Noises

    LOUD-Noises First Year

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    I don't see it as a huge plothole really. Crowley himself said he can 'change things around' when it comes to punishments and such.

    Besides, I thought that was more particularly meant for masochists.
     
  6. syed

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    Or it could have simply Crowley messing with Castiel?
    Or to just mess with and demonstrate his power to the whole of hell itself?
     
  7. Kai Shek

    Kai Shek Supreme Mugwump

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    Come on guys. Just because a character says something doesn't make it true.
     
  8. H_A_Greene

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    I thought that was mostly so that they(Crowley+Cas) wouldn't waste any souls that would be needed to fight off Raphael at the time? Afterward with the Leviathan mess, and the whole year that followed their demise, he could have given up on that route and started focusing more on the tablets for power.
     
  9. syed

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    SO leviathons knew of their own tablet, crowly magicly appeared with the demon tablet, and all angels knew of the angel tablet.
    In the leviathon global search and the lucifer crypts, it is more than likely there were other tablets located.
    Crowley was originally the king of the Crossroads, the one in charge of the deals, so he might have come across them at some point. I wonder if it takes a creature, to find their tablet. So a God for the god tablet, a fairy for the fairy tablet, reaper for the reaper tablet etc.
     
  10. Goreshade

    Goreshade Fourth Year

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    Main thing that has been bugging me this season is how Sam and Dean have this new secret base that's supposed to be impenetrable but they never think to bring Kevin to it. Why not?
     
  11. Kai Shek

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    I thought of that too, but the answer is pretty obvious.

    Their Grandfather and his whole group died so a demon couldn't find that place. Why would they put the one person Crowley is looking for right in the middle of it? Even if the chance is 1 in a 1000 that Crowley could even find it, why would they ever take that risk?
     
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  12. Banner

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    What I never understood, that Bobby's house was left untouched till the leviathans went after it. Why did the demon, angels and monster never try to burn it down? It is not like it was hard to find.
     
  14. Banner

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    I figure that Bobby had some really impressive protections on his property. Bobby looked pretty minor at first glance, and just not worth the effort. Also, he wasn't *known* as a major supporter of the Winchesters til pretty late in the game. John and Bobby's estrangement wasn't just for show. John Winchester was good at pissing people off.

    The Roadhouse burned, but it was was public and a well known Hunters' hangout.
     
  15. syed

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    Why did the leviathans take out his house then, as they were anti monster so hunters around and able to kill the competition is a good thing. while they did figure a way to deal with big mouths, it only just made them an irritant for sure to the new top predators, as they could not actually kill any one. after they got the tablet, then they were a big enough threat to hunt and kill.
     
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    Blackvoice Third Year

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    It's All In The Details is a time-travel fic of sorts, where God actually speaks to Castiel during The Man Who Would Be King, so he travels back to the day Dean sells his soul, and starts changing things. It's an entretaining read, and the way they resolve some conflicts is rather original. I'd recommend it, since they recently started updating again.

    Sympathy for the Devil (and Dean Winchester) I haven't read, but its summary is this:
    It's by TardisIsTheOnlyWayToTravel, so if not masterfully written, it should at least be a decent timewaster.

    Edit: it's also marked as a Dean/Cas fic, so there's that.
     
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  18. Banner

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    In "Sympathy", the Dean/Cas is extremely non-graphic. Otherwise I wouldn't have rec'd it here. DLP tends to get hysterical at the first sign of m/m sex (note: f/f sex is extremely popular). I'm reasonably confident that only a truly rabid homophobe would be offended.

    Sympathy is more about the characterizations and plot twists. The sex really is completely off-screen. I promise.
     
  19. Innomine

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    Well, you've sold me. I'll read them.
     
  20. Jon

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