Hello, Mr. Happens, I don't believe you answered me?
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You feel like a piece of cardboard but DLP Tone Slaughter I guess.

 

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Bolded/underlined seems hyper-aware, which is probably a slightly scummy thing IMO, especially given all that fen proceeds to do (in this same post even) is suspect Vaimes. I could see this as a scum having difficulty getting grounded in the game and latching onto someone they know to fake hunting. (Universe A)

That said, I could still see a universe where a town!fenwicked is having difficulty getting grounded in the game and naturally fell at this conclusion. It's too difficult to assess one way or the other. (Universe B)

Overall I'd personally say: Universe A 70%, Universe B 30%

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Hmmm. There's reads in here at least. It is entirely unclear why he threw me in with Vaimes though. I also don't understand how he thinks Eido has genuine desire to solve the game, but more on that later, and Stan has already talked about that at length as well.

Not sure I get too much out of this one alone.

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This one reads more genuine than not to me I guess, but very mildly so. Hard to say.

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Okay, so... I can see this as a town perspective, I suppose. The issue I have is similar to what Stan has voiced, and that's that the quote fen drew for Eido does not display anything about a desire to solve the game. Seems logically inconsistent. Might suggest that fen is making shit up.

I'm not really sure why scum!fen would think this is a good idea.

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This is by far the worst post in his ISO in my assessment. Smells like panicked backtracking. Total lack of reasoning. Eww.

I would support a lynch of fen, but... not super confidently. I suppose the percentages updated are like 75% scum / 25% ML at the most confident. I'm still worried this could be a townie slot, but not overly so.
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I really need to go in like 5 minutes. Catching up quickly and Citrus detailed ISO look are my first priorities upon return. Really disappointed I didn't get to look at Citrus in depth. I'll see what I find SUPER quickly here.

 

Honestly, I kind of like that line, lol. I know what behavior you are referring to, but this just... doesn't bother me.

 

If I were to tell you that cobalt (the host this game) said in a game we played with fenwick 3 weeks ago that fenwick should not be lynched early because he needs time too get reads.
And look at the 2nd spoiler of yours with that in mind.

 

We might be talking across each other here. He bounces off posts other people have made, but doesn't use them to talk about the game or do anything. I usually see this as easing into a thread as scum when you have nothing better to say.

 

@Stanari this is why I'm salty.

Nothing against M Plus 7 since he's probably catching up but...

I talk about it.

 

Sorry, I'll read through your ISO later. I did see you talk about it, but it didn't stick. That's on me.
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I can see that for sure. Doesn't particularly bother me either really, it's just the worst thing I saw in there and shook out GTH more scummy than not.

It's not even that her lack of specificity means she's scum, it just makes it that much harder for me to tell whether she is.
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My detailed thoughts on Citrus will definitely have to wait. Super super quick impressions:

- could be buddying me; that's concerning, because I'm not sure how much Citrus has actually been honestly trying to assess me
- "pretty strong" response post sticks out as... noteworthy, need to think on it more
- some honest attempts to assess in there, re: Eido, I think ?
- reads lists seem rather static at quick glance

Needs more thorough examination

Need to go now, ahhhh, BBL

 

So, knowing Kai, I think he simply doesn't care much about the game. That's kind of mafia indicative, because he's more likely to care a bit as town in my experience. Does that meta help you a bit?

 

note to self: do this upon return

 

I looked through parts of fen ymself earlier today and made the case .. look my iso for the details whenever you get back.

I feel like so far not a single person has bothered to check because no one has mentioned it.

 

In the process of catching up.

Really like Jans posting since I left, kind of think most of his focus on the Cobalt/Fenwicked(Quinn) type thing re; his meta with them and comparison/consideration analysis etc comes across very genuine.

@Stanari - What about Bears 955 did you town read? That post (And the rest of theirs from last night tbqh) doesn't do much for me either way, the whole Fonti/Eido focus on Fenwicked stuff feels a little like busywork if anything.

@Beruru - I'd like your detailed read on Stanari and a reads-tier list from you, even if it's just a "placements based on top of my head" when you get a chance. Need to start having a better idea of where your head is at on people in this game.

@Gemma - Talk to me about some of your 981, specifically the Beruru/Vaimes placements and reasoning. Also uh, you sort of not including me and not counting me as a player in the game here is a little sad, I know it's mostly a "I don't want to try and think about your alignment/you'll self-resolve" but like, that's not how I think/would like for you to approach me? Can you also talk to me about the Jan/Vaimes/Nego thing in 1014, I mean the teams not impossible -- Jan/Vaimes one of the few "2 scum possibilities" in my upper bloc , don't have any anti-alignments in there but like, why's that what you're going to -- thought you had Jan as a relatively decent town read? Please try and talk with me and work with me here on some of this stuff when you're in the right headspace too.

 

I read it, I don't think it's an amazing look, but without actually reading the link, the context of a mash seems incredibly different?

 

I mean, if that's real, yes, and I'd be happy that my baseline read maps rather well onto it.

(Also, sorry for slow responses. I'm actually reading things that aren't in my alerts now.)

 

I mean .. cobalt knows him and i am basicaly trusting his meta in this regard. iso lonelygiant in the mash and you see the quote where cobalt is defending him. Otherwise I would have never stumbled over it when looking at his playstyle.

 

I don't know, lol.
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Okay that was suddenly way too many words.

 

Ditto'ing most of what Newcombs said in 1024 but I think you're not reading how it's played out even remotely close to accurately. Wasn't a case of either of us being positive you're scum, or wanting to push through a lynch, was us both having concerns with your posting, explaining it and voting you while looking at others / elsewhere and hoping that if you're town we'd be able to see it via your response/reaction/posting/play.

Starting thinking you might be town the prior night when I'd popped in and read your posts/responses to me and posted about it in 712, spent a lot of time just going through your ISO and typing up where my headspace was with you yesterday at work but kept deleting/restarting etc it and then ultimately decided I'll just wait on more from you to actually post/get to a read -- what I ended up on was I kiiinda of actually think the whole "Regfan knows me and I'm town here and he's scum reading me therefore he's scum" type of attitude from Nego snap reaction in 661 is more likely to come from them as town? I think it'd be a little more calculated and thought through as scum? I don't mind their explanation to the M7/Beruru thing in 678 either. The whole "Newcomb knows I'm better as scum on D1, I think he's town but it's a thought I want to get down in case I'm lynched" attitude in 686 feels kind of genuine too? Like I don't think it's a reasonable thought or a correct one, but I very much can see it one that can come from Town!Nego here? The lack of reasoning behind the Beruru town read on the "I town read Beruru and therefore trust them on M7" other than it being a feels read though isn't great? Pretty much, there are some things inside your posting there that makes me think you might be town / make me want to look elsewhere for now; don't think any of them are hugely strong, think I'm possibly reading into some things I shouldn't be/aren't my strong suit but yeah, enough that when I've got a huge amount of players I'm ~not feeling great~ about that is worth moving for.

 

Yeah, sorry, I can't really parse your thought there.

You say Kai is just bouncing off other people's posts to make useless posts. The focus of that thought feels like "Kai bouncing off other people's posts" and not "Kai is making useless posts". Am I misunderstanding?

 

No, I think you have it right when you put it that way.

I got confused about where him doing nothing came into it because that wasn't what we were talking about. You asked me about whether his posts are pretending to be original content.

 

Look after yourself, is much more important than this game.

 

An extremely vague and bad ?joke?.

Sorry friend.
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I am capable of holding like one post of conversation in my working memory right now, I apologize if I'm tangling up threads. My original question wasn't getting at what I really wanted to ask:

Why is the focus of this post that Kai is bouncing off other people instead of that Kai is shitposting and nothing else?

If you answered this, sorry, I am very good at reading comprehension.