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The 5 Exceptions to Gamp's Law of Elementary Transfiguration

Discussion in 'Fanfic Discussion' started by Skeletaure, Feb 6, 2010.

  1. Tylendel

    Tylendel Seventh Year

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    About the curse on the DADA position, it's a curse on one person/a position that can be occuped by someone. The curse is latent until someone take the job ; so, obviously, it's legitimate to ask if the curse would still exist if you chance the name.

    Why he did not curse "Light wizard" and "auror" ? First, there is to many of them. Second, even thought auror is a specific title, how do you define a "Light wizard" ? Someone who use "light magic" or white magic. What is white magic ? Etc. The concept become to large, imprecise. It would make the curse too volatile and dangerous for the caster.

    A taboo, if I understand correctly, is but on a word. Name are words. If you could put it on a particular person, all word using to refer to that person should technicaly fall under the taboo, so "You-know-who" wouldn't be used. And most people do not know that Riddle is Voldemort, so it is a waste of time to do it.

    Prophecy are powerful, but not because they have an inner power : we give them there power. As Dumbledore say in Halfblood-Prince, prophecy does not predict the futur accuratly, we can still make our future.

    If Voldemort had not heard of the prophecy, he would not have tried so hard to kill the Potter personnaly. They were his ennemy, yes, but he know Snape desire for Evans. So he will try to kill them if he can, but not target them specificly.

    When I see prophecy, I always remember a story told by one of my philosophy teacher. The King of a great emperor went to the Oracle of Delphi to know if his campaign against Syrracuse will be successul. The oracle say that the war will see the End of a great empire. Confident in his victory, he declare war against Syrracuse and lose badly. He come back to the oracle, angry, accusing him of lying to him about the future. The oracle say that he didn't not lie, a Great Empire came to his end, the King's empire.

    While prophecy may have some magic in them, the choice are what define a human beings. We can choose to ignore it or to bind our own future to the prophecy.

    In Harry Potter, magic is not mystic or religious, it simply is. Normal. For wizard it's like breathing.

    To return to the subject, who say that you can't transfigure gold ? You can, it will simply be something similar to lepreuchaun gold and since magic leave a trace, others wizard will know it's not real gold and don't give it any value. That's why the philosophal stone is so powerful, it doesn't just transfigure gold, it create gold, real gold.

    Why money is so valuable ? After all, it just print on a paper, no longer garanted by gold. Society give money value, it's not farfetched to think that the same apply to the wizard world.

    I don't know what are the four other excpetion to Gamp's law, but don't forget that while conjuration is transfiguration, transfiguration is not conjuration and Gamp's Law seem to apply only on conjuration. Since the food you conjure come from nothing, it has no nutrional value.

    PS: sorry for all the unforgivable grammar mistake.
     
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  2. Teresoul

    Teresoul Seventh Year

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    The Law is called Gamp's Law of Elemental Transfiguration. Conjuration is a part of Transfiguration and taught by McGonagall in Hogwarts.

    The Philosopher's Stone is a product of Alchemy created by Nicolas Flamel to be used in alchemy. The whole concept is a rip-off of Nicolas Flamel, so it's safe to say that Alchemy in HP is really alchemy. IOW, Alchemy doesn't conjure gold, it transfigures it from lead or other metals.

    I agree on your take on prophecies, except on the fact that they have magic.



    Also, Brown's take on blood having magic. There are two factors needed to be considered in magic, those being magical properties and (non-magical) symbols. In potions, one would use unicorn blood, dragon blood, wolfsbane and other ingredients because they have magical properties. However, in rituals, you need more than just ingredients to pull them off, for the ritual to "make sense to the magic". You need symbols, used as guidelines for the magic. Remember Voldemort's resurrection ritual. Flesh of the servant, bone of the father, blood of the enemy. He used those as symbols, not for their inherent magical properties. If he used them for their magical properties, then Harry's blood, bearing the protection of his mother, would have killed Voldemort while he was in the cauldron.

    Bottom line, if everything in the universe had magic, and magic didn't get along with electricity, then how would computers and television sets work in canon?
     
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  3. Admonkeystrator

    Admonkeystrator Seventh Year

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    Imperio.

    You believe you are in love with Hagrid's arm pit.


    Just because it's not natural love, doesn't mean it's not real right?