I would like to see a Harry who grew up in the Neverwhere universe.

 

I think the number is actually closer to about 3,000. Except Hermione joins him in the whole "death-to-the-Gingers!" rigamarole.

And, of course, they get married and have a child and name it some disgustingly sick thing like Placenta or some shit.

 

Anything that has to deal with the word crossover is unoriginal and cliche at its basest form. Think about it, you are just taking a work already used and abused in some other fandom and mixing it with our own used and abused fandom to create a Doubly-Cliche-Crossover-Fandom(TM). If the fandom isn't already abused, well here you go starting that chain of abuse by mixing it with our raped fandom.

 

Well, I was hoping that Hermione would die a rape and heavy object related death, possibly involving a tea bagging session. But I suppose beggars can't be choosers.

 

Yup, just because you use 2 fandoms you can't have any original ideas or concepts. Definitely not an original plot.

Oh wait...:/

 

Yes, much better to make up a bunch of mediocre shit, fill it with plain characters no one will care about, than to take awesome characters and settings from world-loved creators...

...Originality is nice, but since everything has been fucking done before, I'll settle for something Epic over something Original.

Yes. Yes it is. Garth Nix is the author. I basically recommend anything by him.

A story about Harry Potter taking a magical shit is original, but I'd still rather read Denarian Renegade.

 

Ha. You all like to say that, but I have yet to see any of you come up with what I would say is 'original fanfiction'. It's an oxymoron in and of itself and that was all I was saying.

Don't get butt hurt because I called this thread useless at its most base form because it is the truth. At the same time, it gives authors new ideas to improve or evolve an already used and abused plot idea -or in other words make cliches more tolerable or even likable- yet due to this the word anti-cliche in the title of this thread is incorrect.

My point exactly. Is Denarian Renegade an anti-cliche? No, it's epicly awesome and original to point that no one has made Harry the same way that Shezza did and he has an amazing writing style, but that does not change the fact that, as fanfiction authors, we are most decidedly the opposite of original. We take someone elses work, just like millions of others, and write about it in different ways. How the hell can you call that originality? I call it interesting and fun to read, but I will never agree that it is original.

 

Everything has not been done, I haven't seen a Harry raised by Leeroy Jenkins.

 

Predictable cunt, aren't you?

 

There are plenty of original things out there that haven't been done before. Or at least that haven't been done well.

Like I err...I can't think of anything right now but whatever. Harry gets drawn into the world of Quidditch hooliganism or something? I dunno, most things can be twisted around and all of a sudden they're original.

 

Take that and make a story out of it and the fact that you use Leroy Jenkins is original. The fact that you use Harry Potter is, sadly, not. Using an independent!Harry is cliche. It's been done twenty million times to the point of killing itself. The same with everyone other genre we have. What is original is how the author molds those annoying cliches into something fun and interesting to read.

And when did I use insults? I said for them not to get butthurt, that is all. Who began with insults -Jon and, to a lesser extent, Darius- and who counter-argued? You, my friend, are a cunt. And not because of the fact that you are against me in this thread, just that you are. Oh, and yes, I am insulting you. Kthxbai.

 

Yeah, you really critisised this thread.

Oh wait, you didn't. You just whined about crossovers.

 

You use the word original, it does not mean what you think it means.

There is original fanfiction - saying there isn't is what people that can't write anything decent say.

DR for example is set in the HP verse and loosely follows the events but everything besides that is his own work, his own ideas. Therefore it is original. Not original fiction, as it's using the setting and some basic ideas but the story itself is original for the reason stated above.

 

When I posted originally, I was trying to make the point that fanfiction -in and of itself- is unoriginal to begin with. Shezza used the personality he equated to a dark!Harry and a Denarian!Harry to create her original Harry's persona. Dumbledore is still the same; Michael is still the same; the White Council is still the same; the other Denarians are still the same; Maeve is still the same. I find the work 'refreshingly original', as I've said before, on the level of what the author adds to it. The small things. What these posters are talking about is taking an entire fandom and meshing it with another and calling it original. That is not original. It's the small things about a character's personality or their actions in the story that create a more original work.

Oh, and World, I was using crossovers as an example. Look back at the other posts. "How about we mesh X with Harry Potter! Originality FTW! YEAH!" No, it's not, and that's my point.

I'm sorry for bringing up semantics because it seems to be a little too 'hostile' for some of you. Calm down and get back to your discussions about the originality of meshing together two authors' works.

 

A cunt I may be, but I will never be your friend. And perhaps a better word to describe your contribution to this thread would be 'trolling'.

 

Arguing semantics is what I was doing, sweet heart, and calling you friend is known as sarcasm. As I said above, my argument about your precious 'original' fanfiction might be a little too hostile for someone like you so I'll step away, go back to reading The Song of the Trees, and let you pull the string of your tampon out a bit so you stop becoming so irritated.

 

As I said before that argument is retarded. It's obviously not a completely original novel. But that doesn't mean it can't be original.

Don't even start trying to call other people being sensitive when you saw my initial post as even somewhat 'insulting'.

I don't think you understand - no scratch that I know you don't understand what you're talking about. In a good crossover fic the story isn't the crossover, the crossover adds new elements for the author to work with and *gasp* gives him more space to explain his original ideas.

 

Denigrating fanfiction on a fanfiction website is textbook trolling. You, Kolskit, are either genuinely short-bus retarded or a masochist. Oh, and quit hitting on me.

 

Doesn't Vash fap to these kinds of fights?
Good thing we are all to the point.
Come on people, insult the idea, not the person.