Midknight it's ok let your S&P side out...to bottle it up inside you is bad for your health... :lol:

 

Stupid, Cervus! Stupid!

I don't know why I keep clicking on this darn thread, I just woke up and this is the first thing I see.

Stupid!

 

Personally, I appreciate the quotes because more often than not I don't have the stones to actually click the links myself.

Don't want to risk temptation and all that.

Same reason I won't see Brokeback Mountain. The Cowboy was my second favorite village person (the first one, not the cheap second guy).

I fear I've said too much.

 

Ugh, this just reinforces my hate for slash.

 

It was the constant dialogue that got me, reallly. Well, besides... pretty much everything else... *sigh*

 

holy horse crap...and it got 2.5k reviews? eh...

 

Well, people like things that are..er.. interesting and easy to read.

 

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2033105/1/

Broken Soul Tattered Wings by WolfBreed.
Summary:-Xmen evo. & charmed xover. Harry has lived a life of torture and shame but with the arrival of his 16th birthday and the surprises it brings he will now truely discover how cruel and unfair the world can be.mpreg, rape, abuse, selfmutilation


I couldn't and still, can't read past Chapter 1

 

Here, I'll save those of you who are scared of clicking the link. Here's the gist of what you'll find:

I just don't understand why people enjoy writing this, why people enjoy reading this, what there is to be gained from stories like this for either the author or the reader. And it has nothing to do with the 'slash' aspects of the story. Mainly when I see a story like this, and lots of responses for it... all I feel is sad. That people are going out of their way to identify with every horrid cliched teen goth stereotype on the planet, and not even in a fun way. rape? abuse? self-mutilation? check, check, check. I mean the authors of these sorts of stories are usually skilled and descriptive, but it doesn't matter how shiny you polish a turd. There's nothing to be gained from eating the turd or reading the story, as far as I understand it.

 

I seriously hope you reported it, nonjon, even if it would most likely do nothing.

 

Reported it for what?

I mean I don't like it. I see no redeeming value in it in the slightest, but I don't care that it's there. I mean there's obviously language depicting a scene we can all imagine as being pretty horribly raunchy, but to me that doesn't go beyond the "M" rating it has. It never even refers to anything specific other than 'seed' or 'hole'. It's a mature theme, but not XXX or NC-17ish, in my opinion. Others I'm sure will disagree, but you can't simply say 'if this was a movie scene, would it get by with an R rating' because writing and visuals don't have the same sorts of rules.

In case it wasn't clear, this was the link DaytonDeusBlack posted and I just looked at the same Chapter 1 he couldn't get through. I certainly had no desire to look at any further chapters either.

But it's not against anything in my rulebook. Other than logic, good taste, reason, and righteousness. Which are not criteria for getting fics toasted. Might be criteria for flaming the guy, if he wanted all feedback. But I don't even want to pay it enough attention to properly flame it. Stories like this just don't make sense to me, but after 400 reviews or so, obviously someone gets it.

 

You are giving the M rating ridiculously wide breath then. That's definitely a no-no explicit/graphic lemon scene in my book. Can't really get more explicit than:

 

For what it's worth, I think that's R.

If he said "After what seemed like ages Vernon thrust his dick in deeply one last time and shuddered spilling his burning seed into his nephews torn ass.", that'd be NC17. Then of course, since it's slash we're talking about, FFN admins might as well deem it teen...

 

I know I give "M" more credit than it's worth, but for something like a scene of rape, avoiding ever using specific terms like "dick" or "ass" as IP illustrated to me is where one of the lines is. You can't just say "he was raped". If it were a movie these scenes would be cut with lots of shadows and blurry movements, etc... and the audio would be giving you a clearer idea. So how do you translate that into fic?

No idea, myself. But for me, this description hasn't clearly crossed the M line into NC-17. I could be convinced otherwise probably, as it is more descriptive than some (anyone know how descriptive "A Year Like None Other"s torture scenes were? And it got booted...) But it's not offensive enough to me. Even still, if my beef with a fic is that they rated it too low, or they should be careful they don't get too graphic I just tell the author.

I think plagiarism is the only abuse reports I've ever sent off to fanfiction.net. All their other instances of abuse are too unclear and those admins are too trigger-happy, in my opinion.

 

This is NOT NC-17.

NC-17 pretty much means its not fit for anybody. M seems to do this justice. You can't ask for artists you like to be given latitude, but stories you don't like to be treated more harshly. Its this any worse than when Harry tortures someone in Vash's story?

I mean I love Vash, but some could assert the whole "penis in the piano wire" was NC-17.


Regarding this story itself, its RIDICULOUS. Harry DIDN'T have a rough enough CHILDHOOD?! The people who write this are middle class teenagers who fancy themes of suffering and angst. The problem is they never experienced anything REMOTELY like this (The worst case is probably they're father's smacked them or they fight with their folks. They feel oppressed and victimized, so they write stories with Harry doing this. The thing is, is that people who REALLY went through this are NOT going to sit their and allow it to be teenage fodder. These people are either truly fucked up (on HARD drugs) or they have gotten help and are trying to lead a normal life. Some may come to terms with it and write REAL work about it (see Eve Enzler: Raped by her father, wrote Vagina Monologues amongst other things).

These are "dark, angsty, brooding" teens that want to express their suffering, but they lack the skill to subtly portray Suburban ennui and the feeling of being trapped. Instead they, so they rely on hyperbole and extreme stereotypes whilst they forget the humanity. Harry had a rough enough child-hood that with the proper writing, it could be taken in ANY direction.

Also, this is just shallow. It has no emotional depth. Its just Harry suffering and being fucked up. The characters are not designed uniquely or their actions explained. Everyone is static. This type of story depends on the reader going, "Oh, that's terrible." Then the author nods gravely and says, "Yes. It is VERY terrible. Shall I show you more?"

Harry doesn't become a hardened street thug who fights back. Its him taking the abuse and internalizing it. It continues with this pattern. Sometimes he is saved by wizards when he attends Hogwarts, and they are all guilt ridden and fall for this quiet diffident kid who really is like a broken puppy. Does a puppy HAVE to be broken for him to be a sympathetic character?

Anyway, usually around here it turns into a big LOVE fest where Harry is saved and everybody loves him. This is because it is a SHALLOW story. Congratulations, the cycle is broken...Now what? And they never have an answer, because the story sucks.

 

Dark Mark
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2722469/1/

I want to kill . . .

 

Holy shit. I got half way through chapter one when my head exploded.



EDIT: I went through the reviews and found some pretty funny ones.

EDIT TWO: I'm seriously considering reporting this fic for the third chapter being only an A/N, At least this abomination will be off the web. I know this contradicts with what I said in the War on FF.net thread but seriously, how can I let this piece of shit live?