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Complete The Denarian Knight by Shezza88 - M - Dresden Files

Discussion in 'The Alternates' started by Rehio, Oct 26, 2007.

  1. Methene

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    True, magic must be the answer to that. To take another fandom as an example: in Star Wars Yoda, although he is 900 years old can still move quick as lightning.

    For all those who are about to yell at me saying that the Force is different than HP Magic, bear along.

    We know that magic makes people more resilient, able to live longer and allows them to survive injuries that would cripple or kill a muggle (that last point may be fanon, but it has merged into my perspective of the HP world). In that sense, magic imbuing a person's body into making it tougher, stronger, faster works much like the force.

    EDIT: I just realized something. Although, Lord Voldemort was born in 1926, his new body, which would dictate the speed of his reflexes is not even one year old at the time of the duel.
     
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  2. Palver

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    I just can't see Voldemort as old and frail. If his body is too old he probably would regenerate it or something. His life's goal is to avoid death and subsequently aging and weakness that comes with it. And he is fucking unnatural already.
     
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  3. Datakim

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    Quite Right!

    And I think this is far better than the canon books! :)

    The canon-Harry is such a pussy that Voldemort obviously had to be one too for canon-Harry to have any chance. Shezzas Voldemort is the kind of "Dark Lord" he should be!

    @Methene

    But Harry has Magic too!

    Voldemort has: Speed = Base human speed - old age + magicboost.
    Harry has: Speed = Base human speed + magicboost + mecielboost.

    Harry might actually be more powerfull thanks to hellfire than Voldemort is(maybe?). He simply cannot take advantage of that power properly since he lacks the skill of Voldemort and as a result his spells are a lot more inefficient and wastefull nor does he know how to do the really difficult magical things the way Voldemort and Dumbledore can. The whole Voldemort letting go of the wand thing is a prime example of this. Harry did not even know such a thing was possible.

    That is kinda what I was thinking of. Not that Voldemort would defeat Harry with superfastlightingspeedreflexes but rather by doing things with Magic Harry in his youth and ignorance had never even considered.

    Ofcourse it was just one sentence in the story so I might have gone a bit overboard with this whole thing now.

    EDIT: Good point about the new body Methene! I totally forgot!
     
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  4. Lucullus

    Lucullus High Inquisitor

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    *facepalms*

    It's most certainly not canon. All the bad indy!Harry shit must be getting to you.

    Are actually asking what's wrong with childish nicknames like Dumbdork? If so I'd like to link you to this thread.

    Harry is also much more skilled than his canon counterpart and I don't see you nitpicking about that. So why shouldn't it be the same for Voldemort?

    To stay on topic, I'd like to say the duel was very well-written, though I feel Harry should not have escaped that relatively unharmed. While you did show that Voldemort is still an adversary to be feared by having him be near invulnerable to whatever Harry threw at him, the same could be said for Harry.

    Harry needs to really take a beating from one of the antagonists, preferably one so hard he needs a long recuperation. The way I see it, Harry has too many things going for him, such as Meciel, the sword, and the luck of God, and frankly, he seems too invincible to me.

    If he is already able to escape duels with the most powerful wizard in the world without taking more than a scratch or two despite not reaching his full potential in his magical and other abilities, I can't imagine what will happen as his magical power increases and he learns how to wield the sword like Michael/Sanya.
     
  5. Mors

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    My best Voldemort is still SIAUL, Shezza. You'll have to work hard to catch up. Great chapter though.

    And one more thing... from Renegade to Knight,, in every chapter in every fight, Harry's eyes are 'widening'. For example:
    It's been bugging me throughout the series, but I usually ignore them or think Harry's eyes are really, really expressive. But two consecutive paragraphs... it's just little bit irritating. Dunno if anyone else had had the problem.

    Does Crucio have a wand movement? I can't remember from canon or the films.
    His wand was already out, and he'd used the AK already.

    Waiting for the next chapter, as usual.
     
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  6. Dark Syaoran

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    I thought SIAUL as a story sucked balls.
     
  7. Skeletaure

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    SIAUL's Voldemort was very impressive though, even if you disliked the story. He actually had a workable plan to take over, unlike most Voldemorts that just go around destroying and killing for no reason.
     
  8. Lucullus

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    I thought Mors had meant his favourite Voldemort is still 'stuck in AU land', whatever that means, when he said SIAUL. *facepalms*

    It's only after Syao mentioned it was a fic that I thought of Stranger In An Unholy Land. Good fic though, even if my memory of it is a bit fuzzy.

    Does anyone know whether the Cruciatus Curse is visible as a spell, ala Stupefy and Avada Kedavra. I was always under the impression it is an invisible force hitting a victim and then causing the pain rather than being a red/scarlet jet of light.
     
  9. Skeletaure

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    Sometimes it's invisible, sometimes it's a jet of red. We've seen both in canon.
     
  10. Lucullus

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    I don't recall it being a red jet in canon? Quote?
     
  11. Skeletaure

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    Haven't got my books on me at the moment so I can't. Was Harry's Cruciatus in OotP against Bellatrix red?
     
  12. Jon

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    Charity <3
     
  13. uriel

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    "Charity" was your only reaction? The update rate is phenomenal.. everyday I log on and there's an update :)
    And doesn't anyone else want to see angry sex between Molly and Harry? I mean come on .. the sexual tension is there.. really! :D

    Only found two spelling mistakes, corrections in bold

     
  14. Lucullus

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    Only for you Taure, am I hitting out my books! :D

    *blows dust off my copy of OOTP*

    Nope. Nowhere in the whole DoM scene was the Cruciatus ever described to be red in color.
     
  15. Lucullus

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    I want to see Harry/Molly too! How about a Harry/Molly/Amanda threesome?

    Seriously, I'm glad to see that Meciel understands the danger of Harry underestimating his foes eg. Voldemort, and is trying to get him to see sense. Harry's arrogance needs to be toned down, or rudely deflated by an opponent.
     
  16. Mors

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    So, no colour is mentioned. In fact, I'm inclined to think no colour is ever mentioned in canon... the victim (usually Harry) is too busy screaming. ;) Maybe the red colour is just a fanon thing. It might've come from the red curse Bella threw at Sirius in the DoM, since we all know she loves to use her Cruciatus.
     
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  17. Datakim

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    Not much to say about the chapter here. I liked that Harry went to the Carpenters for assistance. I bet this is going to be fun with the son calling him a demon of night (or whatever) and Charity going insane over the thought of having a Denarian in the house. What time is it exactly? Is Amanda at home or have the schools started at this point in the story already.

    Oh! And I liked the whole oedipus complex mention. Given how young Harry was when he got the coin my first impression of Meciel was more of a parent figure and mentor to Harry. I mean she did practically raise him from early childhood. Given that, I have always been a little weirded out over all the romance stuff. Then again whats a little spiritual-incest among evil fallen angels and their hosts. :)

    @ Lucullus

    I dont know. Harrys arrogance here is really a part of who he is in the story. He has had his ass handed to him before like in the third task where Voldemort knocked him around with ease and it was only assistance from the knights that saved him. He was also beaten by the drakon and had to beg for assistance from Maeve. Dumbledore too has been demonstrated to be his superiour and actually knocked Harry on his ass once (literally).

    We also know from the prologue that he will be defeated by the white council wardens and imprisoned and magically blocked by those cuffs of Voldemorts. And in front of the entire school at that.

    One of Harrys strenghts here seems to be the ability to jump back into the game however. I seem to recall a line at the end of renegade where Harry started showing his arrogance and smartmouth attitude and it was because of this that Meciel knew that Harry was going to be fine.

    Ultimately its up to Shezza but I for one dont want to see a humble Harry thats constantly cowering in the corner simply because Voldemort is stronger and more skilled.
     
  18. Jon

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    I'm one of the reasons he updates so often. :p I need not say anything else 'cause he already knows what I think about it.
     
  19. Rahkesh Asmodaeus

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    I hope that shuts any Harry/Meciel shippers up.
     
  20. Rehio

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    Harry/Molly/Amanda/Charity/Meciel.

    That's right.
     
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