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Complete The Denarian Knight by Shezza88 - M - Dresden Files

Discussion in 'The Alternates' started by Rehio, Oct 26, 2007.

  1. Rahkesh Asmodaeus

    Rahkesh Asmodaeus THUNDAH Bawd Admin DLP Supporter

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    Yes, Jon is right. In the Dresdenverse, he does mention the existence of countless gods. But there was also a point in which Lasciel says, "I was there when the Almighty first breathed life into the universe." Or something along those lines. So in Dresden, God is the beginning.

    So it's not Christian in the traditional sense, as Dresden does acknowledge the existence of other gods, but he also does say that they are weaker than God. And that God is the Abrahamic God.
     
  2. Robo Jesus

    Robo Jesus High Inquisitor

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    I'm going to quote a post I left at another forum here in regards to Godhood. =/

     
  3. Rin

    Rin Oberstgruppenführer DLP Supporter

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    Just to be asanine, the root word for "god" in the English language, at least, comes from a nominal (noun) form of the verb "to invoke", which meant "the invoked".

    ENTRY: gheu(ə)-
    DEFINITION: To call, invoke. Oldest form *ĝheu(ə)-, becoming *gheu(ə)- in centum languages. Suffixed zero-grade form *ghu-to-, “the invoked,” god. a. god, from Old English god, god; b. giddy, from Old English gydig, gidig, possessed, insane, from Germanic *gud-iga-, possessed by a god; c. götterdämmerung, from Old High German got, god. a–c all from Germanic *gudam, god. (Pokorny ĝhau- 413.)

    In the Romance languages, the word for god is descended from the word that meant "to shine," *dyeu-, which gives English its word "day" and became "deus" in Latin, and evolved from there. A different form of the word (*dyē- (< *dyeə-)) became the words for Day in the Romance languages through Latin diēs as well. Finally, the word is the root for "Jupiter" from *dyeu-pəter, "O Father Jove", Jove being the head of the Indo-European pantheon (*dyeu- became Zeus in Greek, and Tŷr (which gives us Tuesday) in Norse).

    Sorry. I'll shut up now.
     
  4. Robo Jesus

    Robo Jesus High Inquisitor

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    Heh. Nah, you just help back up my point (for which I thank you:D); which is that languages change over time, and the roots and original meanings of the words we use today have in some cases changed so radically that they have almost nothing in common with what they were originally used for.
     
  5. Lyndon Eye

    Lyndon Eye Minister of Magic DLP Supporter

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    This seems like a promising start. Dumbledore's motives are realistic enough to be believable and you captured his ambivalence towards Harry really well.

    But one point I still don't understand is why Dumbledore regrets his deal with Fawkes. It doesn't seem as if there is any blatant disadvantage to having such a powerful being by his side. Is there something about that in Dresden Files that could explain it? If you could clarify, that'd be awesome.


    Anyways, I liked the Dumbledore point-of-view and think that more of them would be insightful for the reader.
     
  6. eXcalite

    eXcalite Seventh Year

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    Speaking about the deal with Fawkes..Is there any chance you could tell us when we are going to see the results of Harrys night with the winter fae?
     
  7. rj_stone2

    rj_stone2 Seventh Year

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    It was explained earlier that the deal with Fawkes was pretty costly for Dumbledore. IIRC, he gave up the ability to have a family.

    Of course, that wouldn't be such a horrible sacrifice if he wasn't inclined that way from the beginning, if you know what I mean...
     
  8. Kardikek

    Kardikek Groundskeeper

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    I'm just assuming this Dumbledore lusts for tits as much as Harry.

    It would indeed be odd for Snape to continue antagonizing Harry, not only because of whatever stern words were spoken from the headmaster but for a very simple fact.
    If Snape in any way causes the expulsion of Harry there won't be anything protecting him from getting killed by Harry and he should know that very well. Don't think he values the life of Harry more than his own sorry ass.
     
  9. Skeletaure

    Skeletaure Magical Core Enthusiast ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    Snape is quite prideful though. I don't know if he would admit, even to himself, that Harry would beat him in a duel, despite all the evidence.
     
  10. Datakim

    Datakim Chief Warlock

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    It was rather interesting to see Dumbledore's point of view about things. I am glad that you are going to ignore all the comments JRK has made btw. I am sure everyone here agrees that the whole Dumbledore is gay thing was nonsense.

    Is Harry actually a demon or is Dumbledore wrong here? I had gotten the impression from somewhere that Demons come from Nevernever while the fallen are stuck in the outside. I think it was in Renegade. Though I suppose thats nitpicking at best.

    I wonder if Dumbledore has realised yet that Harry is the one that killed the Dursleys? I mean it was hellfire that burned the house down and Dumbledore was there so he knows that. Not hard to connect Harry to the deaths for someone as smart as Dumbledore. Just wondered if he should think about this in connection to failing the Potters/Harry. If Dumbledore had not stuck Harry at the Dursleys, Harry would never have had the opportunity and probably not the desire to take up the coin afterall. Might be an additional reason for Dumbledore to try so hard not not to fail Harry(again).

    @Kardikek: I don't think Snape truly views Harry as a threat. I doubt very much that Dumbledore would have trusted Snape with information about Harrys exploits or his true nature. Without that knowledge and with Snapes blindness when it comes to Potters, I doubt he has any clue about how deadly Harry truly is.

    I think all that Snape knows at this point is that Harry can protect his mind exceptionally well, he can kill magicless merpeople(not exactly a huge feat) and that he managed to kill a dragon in some freak snowstorm. And I would not be surprised if he thinks that something else killed the dragon and Harry just took the credit. Snape probably does not know that it was actually a Drakon. Has Harry done anything else exceptional that Snape would be aware of?

    Snape learning the truth about what Harry truly is would be rather cool actually. Especially if its followed by a major asskicking ;)
     
  11. Lord Apophis

    Lord Apophis Professor

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    I dont remember if Snape knows about Meciel but if he did not so might Dumbledore have told him, if only to remove any doubt Snape had that Harry
    would be able to kill him...

    I really like this Dumbledore, his motives and such are great and while he is a Light Wizard so does he not hesitate to reveal his knowledge in the dark arts if it is to his advantage.
     
  12. Hawke

    Hawke Squib

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    All I meant is that even the worst of people will change as they age. Harry started to show some change as he started becoming more of a mercenary. However, he seems to have slipped back into his more petulant ways. As far as my comment about Amanda... if someone is kind, shows respect, is giving to someone (like Harry) on a consistent basis, they cant help but change their attitude a bit, even if it is towards that one person. I would think he would grow kind of protective about her, while still maintaining (to Harry at least) to be annoying. He did do that once, but I wonder how he would respond to her being threatened now...

    BTW... Nice Avatar!
     
  13. Kyle_Dodge1

    Kyle_Dodge1 DA Member

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    Okay. I see what you mean and I agree. This avatar isn't as cool as my previous one.
     
  14. Xanos

    Xanos Card Captored and buttsecksed

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    ok this i want to see...now thats truly a, and i quote will smith "AH HELL NAW!" moment^^
     
  15. Shezza

    Shezza Renegade 4 Life DLP Supporter

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    -SNIP- See WbA for the real CH15
     
  16. deathinapinkboa

    deathinapinkboa Minister of Magic

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    Well shit...

    I can see why you decided to include that, but I do hope that Dumbledore isn't perminately blind. I am all a twitter to know what comes of this.
     
  17. Mindless

    Mindless Big Boss DLP Supporter

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    Talk about outta the blue. I can only imagine Harry's reaction.
     
  18. Anlun

    Anlun Denarii Host

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    Nice, good inclusion, though I too hope Dumbledore isn't permanently blind.
     
  19. Antivash

    Antivash Until we meet again... DLP Supporter Retired Staff

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    that was ... awesome shezza. @_@

    Moar nao, plox.
     
  20. Dark Magic

    Dark Magic Denarii Host

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    I'm going to miss Meciel corrupting Harry.

    If Lily has a hold on Meciel then there are probably going to be limits as to what Meciel can teach Harry. If so, then that would really, really suck.
     
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