Explode her heart! Steal some hair/blood and explode her heart! Please . I want to see body parts exploding and blood and gore and death and destruction! (Can you tell I'm in a good mood yet? )



Aekiel

 

Okay, I'll show you.

 

Only on DLP would the above ever happen



80 pages for one fic.

 

Just thought I'd mention the completed chapter 27 is up on ffn here: Chapter 27

 

LOL, I hadn't read the other half of the chapter until today. Wow that was just pure brilliance! Nintendoids and stooped bint! Perhaps you shouldn't keep your day job Shezza. Is Umbridge stooped enough that she and the Ministry won't realize they've just been duped?

 

I don't think Umbridge would let this out, Then her heroic brilliant minister... Bearer of the "stooped bint," would be in terrible danger from everyone gunning for his magic hat.

Plus then the ministry would know harry could lie under veritaserum, even though they probably wouldn't tell the public they ere dosing school children

 

Wait just a minute here!

In this chapter Meciel claims that she has never had a host that has had a child before.

However in that one chapter with the vampires Harry got shot and Meciel compares the pain of pulling the bullet out to childbirth! So obviously if Meciel knows that giving birth feels like then one of her hosts must have had a child! PLOTHOLE!

It was chapter 4 infact:

Also I noticed that there is an error at the end where Harry says that Meciel has never had a mummy or daddy before. Surely that should be that Meciel has never _been_ a mummy or daddy before.

Anyway. The chapter was awesome otherwise, especially the veritaserum scene. Hopefully you will write the next chapter soon?

 

Uhm, actually, we had this discussion a while back.

Most of the evidence we have so far points towards Meciel being kicked out of heaven for not killing her own child after being specifically ordered to do so. Plus, there's also the real biblical references and such to things like the story of the Nephilim, which seems to match a good majority of the backstory we have for Meciel as well. It's circumstantial, but it seems solid so far.

Ahh, here's my post that started up that line of conversation regarding Nephilim.

 

Umm yeah.

I suppose that would work if that child truly had been Meciel's own. That would make god even more of an evil jerk though, leading to the question of why he is shown to be such a good guy with the swords and stuff.

This was really a minor nitpick between Meciel knowing what childbirth feels like and not having had a host with a child. Though I suppose you could be correct and the childbirth she experienced was before her fall and before she had to take human hosts. Though I wonder if angels would give birth the way humans do.

 

Never 'had' a mommy or daddy for as in never 'had' a host who was a mommy or daddy.

 

Hmm. Good point. I suppose you could see it like that too. I found it confusing though so maybe it could be clarified? Dunno.

 

Dakaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaatim, Robo Jesuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuus, SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

 

Hahaha.

Ok.

 

Not quite... IIRC, painful child birth was one of God's punishments for Eve eating from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. Why would he punish the heavenly hosts in the same manner before the Fall?

Yeah, here it is:

(KJV) Genesis 3:16 - Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

If Adam and Eve had eaten from the Tree of Life instead, or from both trees even, then they'd be immortal. Idiots.

The poorly defined sons of God (fallen angels, aliens, another attempt by God to create mankind?) sleeping with human women and producing the hybrid Nephilim race is very fertile ground for writing about ancient beings such as Meciel.

 

It's not that simple. According to the wording, it was implied that Adam, Lilith, and Eve all had eaten from the Tree of Life before anyways. So it wasn't a "eat me once and be immortal forever" deal. Hell, there's also the issue whether or not the Tree of Life is the Kabbalahic Tree of Life, or something else entirely. So there is a lot of vagueness regarding that, which results in symbolic mythology being taken as literal, which results in even further confusion and idiocy.

What's more, right after Eden it was implied that there were other humans out there not of the original three of Eden, but that Adam, Lilith, and Eve were of a different breed than the rest of humanity.

Disgressing a bit here. If you look at genetics, you find that the Apes all have 24 chromosomes. Humans only have 23 chromosomes. A great way to prevent any further interbreeding between the two. The problem is one of the twentythree chromosomes in the human genome look like they were actually two chromosomes that were fused almost perfectly together. The problem is that they were fused at the worst possible place imaginable, and that in turn has resulted in a lot of genetic diseases and the like.

Meaning, if God has been fucking with the Human genome, he first improved humanity, found out he improved us too much so decided to correct that, and then fucked us over in the worst possible way genetically afterwards.

=/

I think the Klingons have it right here. We really should kill our gods. They're far more trouble than they're worth.

 

According to the wording of what? Lilith isn't mentioned that early in any Bible translations I've come across.

And, it is that simple:

(KJV) Genesis 3:22 - And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
23 Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.
24 So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.

Looking at it again, it appears that they'd reach (regain?) immortality from the Tree of Life only after eating from the Tree of Knowledge.

Stop right there. I'm not a believer. Trying to reconcile christian beliefs and the Bible with reality is never going to work out well.

 

The idea that Adam had a wife prior to Eve is thought to have developed from an interpretation of the Book of Genesis and its dual creation accounts; while Genesis 2:22 describes God's creation of Eve from Adam's rib, an earlier passage, 1:27, already indicates that a woman had been made: "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them."

Hence, 'Lilith'. The 'first' woman. Granted, she was also the first to 'rebel' against the whole 'obey your betters' shtick and supposedly got kicked out of Eden for it (hence why 'Eve' would need to be created), but hey, she had more 'balls' than supposedly Adam ever did.

So we either get consciousness and the ability to think and act for ourselves, or we get to live forever but without that inate core and essence which makes us human. And we can't seem to have both. =/

Thank you, but no thank you.

That's nice. Doesn't change the fact that this story has already accepted evolution as canon fact alongside the fact that god exists though. =/

 

The new installment was nicely done, although it lacked plot development and focused more on humor than anything else. I got quite a few lulz out of the veritaserum scene; Umbridge being called a stupid bint to her face was a nice touch, and the fact that she didn't even realize it drives the point of the insult even further home. I'm curious, is Umbridge actually going to act on Harry's information, or was this simply an interlude filled with lulz? The update posted on FF.net has a few more paragraphs, containing some Harry/Meciel (Woot!) interaction.

 

I like the travel part. Harry could definitely unwind and relax. But what about a working holiday? As powerful as Harry is, and as skilled, Voldemort has years of magical knowledge over him. Meciel gives an advantage, but she is not the end-all be-all to Harry's problems.

There still has to be a lot that Harry doesn't know. Travel the world, soak up the sights while soaking up a diverse magical education seems the way to go on this.

Just don't make Harry go back to Hogwarts for 6th year. Part of the reason I like this story and Denarian Renegade is because most of it took place outside Hogwarts. That broke the mold, which is a good thing. Have Harry back on his own again, living by his wits and his wand, taking all comers looking to off him. Vesper, Voldemort, the Knights, the White Council....

Watch out, bitches. Harry Potter is comin'. And he looks pissed. This bad boy's ready to lay down some consequences and dish out some repercussions!

 

I imagine that it was a stalling tactic, after all, the information has to be verified, giving Harry time to get through OWLs while at the same time shifting the ministry's attention from him to a wild goose chase. I wouldn't be surprised if we learn at some point that there actually was a list planted at the location.