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Complete The Denarian Lord by Shezza 88 - M - Dresden Files

Discussion in 'The Alternates' started by XxEnvyxX, Jun 29, 2008.

  1. Chime

    Chime Dark Lord

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    The purpose of "love" from an evolutionary standpoint is to keep parents together so they can protect and raise their progeny so they can adapt well to their environment and reproduce. Whether the parents live or die together, surrender their lives for their children or each other or have twenty different mating partners is simply a product of that instinct.

    That's not what I'm questioning as "love" rather the idea that love can be a "force" – love that transcends bio-chemicals and firing nerves. From a Christian view, True Love is something which can only be wielded by the unwicked and the soul-bearing. "The Power of Love" you know the cliche I'm talking about. I don't think Fae are naturally disposed to that power, though I'm only making this judgment from Shezza's story, not the Dresden Universe as a whole. I'm sure if God felt a Fae had "redeemed" themself or done some great good, God might grant them a soul or the ability to "love". Such a thing would be awfully tripe, however.

    Regardless, I do believe Fae reproduce. Do they love their partner? I doubt it. They might have the capacity to love, if they truly wanted to, but they don't have a soul, so why would they want to in the first place? In Shezza's story Mab just doesn't understand her granddaughter's feelings for Harry – it seems to suggest she doesn't understand human emotion at all, and if she couldn't comprehend love, how could she feel it?

    The really ambiguous thing is Amaris. Does she love Harry? Possibly, recall she did try to seduce him when she was playing along with her mother's schemes. But how much of that was real? Was it all an act? Does she really understand what love is or is her idea a corrupted version spawned from her mother's meddling? Amaris might be the Fae closest to understanding love, but I doubt she truly has a grasp for what it is yet.
     
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  2. Twisted

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    Massive tl;dr, I keep thinking Shezza has updated when you lot discuss stuff like this.
     
  3. Innomine

    Innomine Alchemist ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    Great fucking job posting that 6 days after the last post. Total hypocrite moment there.
     
  4. Anya

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    I'm really excited in finding out how the last part of this story turns out. As we have seen so far, everything runs kind of like canon. So I'm looking forward to see how Shezz takes this.

    Lol Ellisande. If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all. ;)
     
  5. Hashasheen

    Hashasheen Half-Blood Prince

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    The Great Author has posted! :awesome

    Interesting scene between Harry and Dumbledore, and renewed respect for your Dumbledore. Knows when to push and when to back off, and even plans for Meciel when he talks with Harry. Can't wait to see more from you in the coming weeks, and hopefully we get a nice little breakdown from Harry.
     
  6. Ragon

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    I have to say I like your Dumbledore more than just about any other. He knows exactly how far to push, when to back off, and knows his own strength is slowly but surely failing.

    Dumbledore's thought that Meciel holds back Harry has merit. The list of similarities between Tom Riddle and Harry Potter is a long list. However, Harry could easily be far worse than Voldemort. Its sad when a fallen angel has to hold back a human.
     
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  7. Sorrows

    Sorrows Queen of the Flamingos Moderator

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    Was re-reading this the other day, always wanted a neat little quote of the concept.

    Loved the new chapter, Shazza managed to present amazing subtleties in Dumbledor's character.
    It might me just me but it almost seems that with all the comparisons Dumbledor was drawing, that Shazza was presenting the idea that Harry is a more extreme version of the young Dumbledor, or that with the right prodding, he could be set on a path that would, 100 years or so down the line make him a grate deal like the present day Dumbledor, charecter wise.
     
  8. afrojack

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    Harry would be a more fire-and-brimstone ancient wizard. Dumbledore was manipulative, but generally the jolly and humorous kind.
     
  9. Innomine

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    Sorrows: The main difference here is, Harry is immortal. He will live FOREVER as long as his body is not destroyed. And he will only get more powerful with time.

    Afrojack: I disagree, Dumbledore can be plenty fire and brimstone when needed, however, in this story he plays the older, wiser role, making sure the younger does not make his mistakes, or the mistakes he avoided.

    Edit: Great update Shezza, saw a few errors here and there, but I'm sure the usual grammar/spelling team will be along to fix things up.

    Along with everyone else, I love your Dumbledore, him, Harry and Amanda are probably the best characterizations i've seen in all fanfiction, and trump most of the commercial works as well.
     
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  10. afrojack

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    Dumbledore can, of course, open up a can on anyone. I'm talking about his natural disposition. Harry is nowhere near as nice as Dumbledore.
     
  11. Ragon

    Ragon Dark Lord

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    Harry is a selfish, arrogant, asshole, who has the power and talent to tell anyone who bitchs about it to go to hell. I dont know if he will change but he is certainly capable of it. For now however Meciel may well be all thats holding Harry back from doing whatever the hell he wants to do whenever the fuck he wants to do it.

    Dumbledore is an old man who may very well have been a selfish, arrogant asshole in his youth but has grown wiser and more mature with age.
     
  12. Hashasheen

    Hashasheen Half-Blood Prince

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    This. I'm still waiting for Hermione's death. :awesome
     
  13. AntiChrist

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    Awesome update. I'm interested in how the Amanda scenario will resolve and what new arc you will introduce.
     
  14. Jigokuno

    Jigokuno Seventh Year

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    "Hope ‘eeped’ and went red. She shied away from Harry’s body, before Charity yanked her backwards and glowered at him. “Not funny, Harry!” she hissed."

    The not funny Harry comment seemed so unlike Charity. That comment seems violently un-Charity like. Like right when I heard it I checked and double checked the name and saw it was totally wrong it is sooo unlike her.

    Other then that things were all good....no great even. The rest of the scenes you showed were a 9/10 besides that one Charity comment. I rarely give 10/10s although if it makes you feel better over half the chapters I have given a 10/10 come from your Denarian series.
     
  15. wolf550e

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    "Harry was also much more different than Tom." - more different? English, bitch! Do you speak it?!

    "It was not to say that she would not stop him from doing evil," - you meant "would stop him from doing evil"

    "to be grateful to the at least some aspects of" - grammar

    "Harry would abandoned the" - abandon

    "if Voldemort won the supreme leader of the Wizarding World" - you meant "If Voldemort won and became the..."

    "Harry was not the only one he needed his rest" - "who needed"

    What was the purpose of describing the everyone-finds-Harry-and-Brat-in-bed scene twice?
     
  16. Skeletaure

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    Er.

    "More different" is correct.

    What were you going to suggest? "Differenter"?
     
  17. Ragon

    Ragon Dark Lord

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    If you pay attention you might notice that they are slightly different.
     
  18. wolf550e

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    I took it to mean that Harry and Tom were different. Maybe the author meant to write "There was much difference between Harry and Tom". But the sentence as written says that Harry and Tom were both different from an unnamed third entity, with Harry being more different from said entity than Tom.

    I'll try to illustrate.

    "Harry and Tom are different" means:
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    Harry != Tom
    or
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    abs(Harry - Tom) > 0
    "There is (much/a great deal of/a lot of) difference between Harry and Tom" means:
    Code:
    abs(Harry - Tom) > threshold
    "Harry was also much more different than Tom." means:
    Code:
    abs(Harry - X) > abs(Tom - X)
    Do you understand?

    It totally is. I just skipped it on my first read. Lazy of me. I like it better, it's more realistic. I hope the final version has this instead of what appeared in the previous post.
     
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    When Shezza eats breakfast he has Awesome-o's because he is awesome.
     
  20. Innomine

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    You're trying way to fucking hard dude.

    As to the new update, good to see that Harry-Draco scene i've been after for a while. Sad lack of death, but also understood. Looking forward to the final arc of DL. Has been long awaited. :)
     
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