Coming from the north I'd expect you'd be used to being ignored.

 

Haha! That would be hilarious.

 

So.... Meciel has been set free from the denarius, and from her prison beyond the gates.

So either Harry now has the power of an archangel, or there is a possibilty Meciel has now regained her former form. So....

If the coin is gone, and Meciel is seperate, then.. one issue that comes to mind is that Harry will (unforseen events aside) no longer be a Denarian. That means, no hellfire, none of the abilities, skills and senses that came with Meciel. Neither is he immortal any more i presume?

I must admit though that if Meciel does become seperate and corporeal, i would enjoy them actually being able to interact physically in the mortal realm.

I can't wait to find out. Absolutely epic. Meciel and Harry..... fantastic pairing Shezza!

 

This is becoming such a tearjerker! An extraordinarily well-done, I-don't-mind-it-at-all tearjerker.

While it certainly would be pretty damn cool if Meciel simply entered the world as a mortal, it's hard to see how this would relate to Amanda or the sword. Also, presumably there still has to be some special power, as referenced in the prophecy, that she (or someone else) is able to grant Harry to finish off Voldemort.

Seeing how she was "flung into the mortal realm" I doubt that means she'll just be some kind of guardian angel watching over him from heaven.

The theory that Amanda IS Meciel is certainly looking pretty good, given the continuity of the ownership of the sword, but that leaves open the question of where Harry will get the wherewithal to kill Voldemort, since he's the one that has to do it and not Amanda.

I am certainly tantalized to see how Shezza will tie this up. Harry and Meciel definitely belong together in one form or another. I will kick many kittens and defenestrate many small puppies of this does not occur. :-D

 

It seems obvious to me (which, frankly, probably means that it's not going to happen) that Meciel and Harry are bound together. As in, formerly he needed the coin to have access to what she could spare from the void, but now her full being is a part of him. As a result, he has the power of an archangel, and keeps all the benefits of being a Denarian. The drawback is that when he dies, she dies with him.

 

Hmmm. That's an interesting idea. I always saw the coin melting as symbolic not of Meciel and Harry merging, but of Meciel's link to the mortal world disintegrating, with it merely being happenstance that the coin melted into Harry, merely because that was where it was.

That said, Meciel and Harry together is a much better proposition.

 

I absolutely loved this latest segment; as if that even needs to be said anymore.

In regards to Meciel's coin melting, my favorite theory is definitely that Meciel's essence, her very being, melted into Harry. I would imagine that the price of this is losing their immortality.

Unfortunately, that would most likely also result in Harry wtf-pwning Voldemort, rather than some sort of epic final battle. After all, how could Voldemort possibly stand against the power of a fallen angel?

Unless, of course, Amaris somehow made a deal with Voldemort. This would most likely result in a Dumbledore vs. Voldemort (again, unlikely since Dumbledore is so injured) and Harry vs. Amaris final battle. Where Harry would then turn on Voldemort after finishing off Amaris. The faerie queens are described as having powers comparable to that of a fallen angel, in the Dresden Files, after all. Again, this is next to impossible, since I doubt either Harry or Amaris could really attempt to kill each other.

Or, perhaps, Harry received all of Meciel's power but only temporarily. Sort of like how the speeding up of Harry's brain works. It would only be possible for a short time until Harry "burns through" Meciel (or her power, or whatever) and there's nothing left.* Of course, in that case, the same problems apply as stated above.


*It should be noted that if this happens, since it will result in Meciel's death, I will fly into a rage and brutally murder Shezza before doing unspeakable things to his corpse.

 

Harry vs. Mab would be a better duel if Harry had access to all of Meciel's power. But it could easily be explained that a (bigger) part of it is constantly used to keep Harry alive, seeing as he should've been dead already.

I'm not sure what did you mean about them losing immortality. Harry's never been really immortal to begin with, he just didn't age. It could be said that Meciel sacrificed her immortality (instad of sanity, thanks to that higher power), but you clearly said "their".

@lucis, I don't regard single sentences that aren't answered "a conversation". Agreed, though.

 

Ah, sorry about that. I meant that Harry would age and die naturally and that, since Meciel is now trapped in his body, she would age and die with him.

 

I think it was Mab, rather than Amaris, who would be comparable to a fallen angel. In any case, I don't think that Amaris would go against Harry like that. Mab, too, is said to be equal to a fallen angel, as I read it. I don't think she would give anyone else the power to defeat one, as by extention that person would hold some power against her (although there might be some sort of failsafe if he were to attack her or something, it is still a risk).

Edit: Sorry, realised your point as to the fairy queen directly fighting Harry. But still, I don't think that Mab, after so little interaction with Harry in the story, would suddenly come out into being such a major player against him, and especially not on that side considering that Amaris, at least, is highly unlikely to support such an idea. IMO, it is a bit of a big gamble.

 

According to how I understand it, Meciel is trapped within Harry's body, and Harry has access to more power than he had before - allowing Meciel to stop the process of aging no less effectively than she could before. I agree about neither of them being immortal anymore, though.

 

I'm not sure about the mechanics, but I think it would make more sense, story wise, for them to both age. /shrug

Admittedly, it would probably also seem like chickening out of giving the main character something approaching immortality.

 

Something else occurred to me that I don't think has been mentioned in the wake of the latest installment: what role will Verrine play, as the very last denarian? Somehow I doubt that she will just go quietly into the night, never to be heard from again.

 

Butcher has said that Mab's power is comparable to that of archangel's, and archangels are presumably much more powerful than ordinary angels. It's possible that the Ladies are as powerful as angels, but as they are much younger, they cannot be nearly as skilled as God's henchmen.

Oh, and Meciel is not an archangel. Mab would easily destroy her.

 

Not in this universe.

And here's what Mecial has to say about Mab:

 

Which is pretty much why I didn't mention Mab at all. She hasn't played any real part in the story so far, so I figured bringing her in now would be too sudden and too jarring.

To my earlier statement that Harry would wtf-pwn Voldemort: It's also possible that Harry acquires Meciel's power but her consciousness is somehow temporarily, or even permanently, disabled, so that he would have a shit-ton of power but not the skill to properly utilize it.

This could then result in a much more even fight, since I expect Harry would attempt to limit the destruction to bystanders and therefore wouldn't be able to really let loose.

 

Hi all, never commented on DLP before but I've been an avid follower of various stories here.

I was just thinking it was interesting that Harry's bone wyrm wings were shattered earlier, perhaps to make room for wings of a more angelic type? Just thought I'd give all the speculation a stab.

 

Son, I dun like what yur insinewatin'

 

Yeah and god gone to holiday and give his powers to jim carey


But lets say Merciel and Harry sepereted. Maybe Harry could use soulfire. I remember something like that in Dresdenverse but I'm not sure.

 

Considering she thought 'she was sent back to the mortal world' and god helped it's a throwup. The end will probably be a throwup that we can't see.