The weaker link probably runs something like 'GG [the situation, not the movement] has brought feminism back into the (student?) public view with Sarkeesian as one of the most visible feminists in this particular situation. There have also been earlier threats sent at other feminists, alleged to have been sent by affiliates of the GG-movement. It is therefore probable that this is linked to GG as well, based on what essentially amounts to profiling'.

It's playing the odds and I'm pretty sure there's some fallacious thought in there. For myself, I think that the increased exposure that came from the original situation of it all is a factor that shouldn't be ignored, but that linking it to GG outright on the basis of just this is stretching it.

Of course, the strong link alleges that there were more mails and one of them named the GG movement outright, but I can't find anything more than claims for that. (Though again; the earlier threats add some legitimacy to the claim).

Perhaps in the GG context (though I'm pretty sure there are those in the movement that will decry *anything* that damages GG ever so slightly as being false flags), but it's rather tame for the whole internet.

 

I think you're thinking of ObscurusLupa, and I'm talking about Maven, Mistress of the Night. Or did Maven do something that I missed?

 

Honestly, Anita Sarkeesian is high profile and saying controversial things. She's going to get enough death threats that she don't need to make them up. If you want a more reasonable conspiracy theory, you could claim she's selectively publicising them. That is, most death threats she just ignores or deals with quietly, but when she wants some publicity, she tweets. I don't believe even that, though. She doesn't seem the type to stagger her tweets to ensure maximum impact.

So, yes, Banta, when it comes to Anita I agree she's not making them up. The problem is that people have staged fake harassment in the past to make political points. Meg Lanker-Simons of the University of Wyoming posted threats to herself on a Univeristy 'crushes' facebook page to a) get the facebook page shut down and b) advance her political agenda. Story

 

Either way, there is an MRA website that's offering a cash reward, somewhere in the thousands, for the identity of the person who sent the emails. I guess they're banking on it being someone in Anita's pocket.

Last time I checked Maven is Lupa, she just dresses up as a vampire instead.

Edit: Also there was something about the way the FBI made their statement that set some people off. When they announced that they didn't believe there was a threat, the way they said it, to some people, implied that the FBI was used to dealing with these kind of situations with Anita. But I haven't looked into any of that, cause I don't really care about it.

Edit: Also, besides Intel both Hulu and Mercedes Benz have pulled advertizing.

 

Er, they are two different people. You know that, right?

 

For real? I was sure that was just Lupa in a costume...

We are talking about this person right?



Cause last I checked that was Lupa...

 

Completely different people. Also, everytime Anita is mentione half of the people seem to insult her in really low levels or say that everything she says or do is fake and a grab for attention.

 

That's Elisa. She's one of the Team NChick people who got to something of her own seperate from Linsday. Lupa's the one with the doofy voice that does werewolf and Hong Kong schlock.

http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/teamt/ol/olp/45158-yes-madam

 

Ah, my mistake then. I'll have to check out her vids sometime.

Also Thunderfoot, Justicar and IA are talking about Atheism and Atheism+ on a stream...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inqcLXNlEes

 

A lot of people disagree with Anita and dislike her videos, far more than are involved with gamergate and Anita has been getting death threats long before gamergate became a thing. Allegations must be proven before being stated as fact, if they wish to say that it came from a group they need to prove it or at least couch it in terms to show that it is unproven.

Even if it was someone involved with gamergate we have repeatedly proven that as a whole we are against harassment even harassment of those whose views we disagree with. We report anyone that is sending threats, doxing, or harassing others as soon as someone sees it, whether those threats are directed at us or at people saying we're worse than ISIS.

Here is someone pro-GG who collected evidence while attempting to track down an individual that was harassing Anita and threatening to rape and kill her on twitter: http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1scr3be
Said evidence has been reported to the FBI and Brazilian authorities.

Also, someone pointed something out to me recently that I was unaware of. I'd been under the impression that most of the people involved in the beginning were idiotic assholes that went after Zoe instead of the journalists but http://gamergateisproharassment.tumblr.com/image/100318197919 paints the picture of the ones that did the harassment being a minority, at least among /v/, while the rest were pissed at those considering it.

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Proof about Hulu? As far as I'd heard that was still unsubstantiated, been looking for someone to confirm it but haven't came across anyone that can yet.

 

Ya, I thought proof would have turned up by now, but it's not so I'm not sure. I was on KoP's Halloween stream last night and a bunch of people started to say that Hulu pulled out.

Since no proof has come out it's starting to look like that was just a rumor.

 

On another note however...



Another one bites the dust.

 

Dunno how much I believe these reports. Is there any way to verify?

 

That was taken from Jayd's twitter, so you'll have to take her word for it, I tend to.

You could always email BMW yourself.

 

What I mean is, is there a way to tell it's not lip service?

 

Not really, and odds are that once sites hear of this and sling back that it's a case of 'both sides tossing dirt', at least some advertisers are going to come back. (And some are just going to stay away entirely.)

 

@ the posts above.

I'm disappointed, I was under the assumption that DLP was above the level of TGWTG.

 

Ive lost track of whats going on in this thread, because I don't know who most of the people being referenced are or whether they are on the side of gaming journalists or against them.

 

I just assume that anyone Cruentus or Hugplx mentions is pro-GG, unless the qualify it.

 

IIRC, the only people I've mentioned - other than the obvious - are people from Giant Bomb (GB).