I don't know if your play this games reflects a hard cider motif though. I think you could honestly work at it though.

 

Stanari, Fable, 113, Shadow, Newcomb, Dya

Owner >> Vaimes

Fonti, Cuth

I think that's everyone?

 

Why is Owner above Vaimes?

 

Because I think she's less likely scum than Vaimes?
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We should be able to lynch all 4 of you though, so I thinknthis is won. We've got ?2? mislynches?

 

>I think owner is less likely scum than Vaimes

ngl I chortled
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Wait, you think both Newcomb and Jan just like. Completely misread me? All game? Reeeeally?

Like I can get where you're coming from if it was just font, but uhhhhh.
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honestly though, part of me is low key perched for a font lynch

 

Because Stanari has 9 votes on her own? Whats your plan for today then, do nothing?

 

Stanari what now?

 

^ It's sarcasm.

@owner

Play to whatever you think will help you achieve your win condition. If there's only one obligation here, it's that.

If you feel like you are more likely to win doing what you're doing, then by all means, keep doing it.

But, if you're town, and you know you're town, and you want town to win, then sitting around and lurking and waiting for us to lynch you doesn't help anyone except the other team. Don't help the other team.

 

".113 said: ↑
I'm saying I'm one of the first people going after scott as well (scott is owner right), i never said much about owner I think but I felt scott was scum but "everyone" convinced me about him being noobtown so I dropped it. This would mean I bussed both vira and scott, with very bad busattempts and very early as well.

I'm just trying to clarify if you really think this is a play I would do after having played with me before. Not trying to ATE here, but rather, don't you think I could have made better busses than that? :/ But like I said, just to clarify if you think I'd make those bad busses that early."

This is owners reply to that post

I have serious problems seeing how town comes to the conclusion that owner does here. "I'm town, you're town, you're scumreading me and WRONG so obviously you're a wolf!!! stop shading me!" for more or less one post about owner.

I am not the only one that has had doubts about owners slot and said so, I'm the only one that got that reaction though. Actually the post in itself is not that bad, saying you're wrong and all, but the vote for that specific reason is shady as fuck.

I'm also the only one saying that about owner that was a possible mislynch here.
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"i'm not gonna do a reads list because stanari is scumreading me and will read it wrong" = Fuck the rest of town? I mean, you do stuff for town not for stanari (no hard feelings stanari)
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@Jarizok @Stanari @shadowlancerx @dyachei @Fable @Vaimes @Cuthalion @fontisian @owner

did I miss someone? It's also roughly in order of scumminess

 

Jan got killed the night after he stated his townread on you, so when would he have had time to reconsider?

Newcomb didn't initially townread you. Not as easily as he should/would have if you'd actually been town.

Fonti is scum.
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You got everyone, just not sure what you want everyone to do.
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Yes, being wrong is not a good reason to scumread someone.

Voting the only viable counterwagon as self pres could come from either alignment though. Ideally Owner'd vote her actual scumreads, but I'm not sure she's been in the game enough to have any.

 

We make a good team.

Also Jari, I want you to read that owner post and see if you agree or disagree that it's weird to be that pissed off by me saying what I did and then counter vote as opposed to just say "dude, stop, you're just wrong."
I mean, either i'm town and wrong or a wolf and lying, he's writing like i'm town and wrong then swaps and goes for the vote.

 

She’s been in the game long enough to have reads on the livelist.

Hell, she thought I was scum but doesn’t seem to care about that anymore. Can’t remember how that panned out.

 

Yeah voting the counterwagon for self pres isn't bad, but just this seems more like he needed a reason to get on me. And he didn't swap to miner either. I can't remember if he used to have miner as town or not before though, but it does look pretty bad.

Also, like I said, I was the only one that got that reaction to the suspicion. I didn't even vote owner, I voted miner, and owner, out of all the people voting him, decides that I'm the only one scummy for saying it and votes me.

It's like he desperately needed a reason to vote me
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this is really bad, really, really bad.
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Then why are you talking like you're trying to shade him for ATE'ing you?

 

Jari, I don’t really know how to say this nicely, so I’ll try to settle for neutral.

But it looks so incredibly arrogant coming from you, thinking that you’ve somehow “caught” me when players with vastly more experience with me than you have recognized that I am town. There is no universe that I fool even 1/3 of them.

Not to mention that of the three, I think I’d have the easiest time stringing Jan along and wouldn’t shoot him first.

I’ve never been able to get the hang of being scum on DLP. I don’t know if you’ve read my past scum QTs, but the fact that you think I could be scum in this game is just mind boggling to me. In a normal
game I burn out by D2 if I live long enough, and I honestly think the activity of this game’s start would have completely destroyed my WIM. There’s no way I’d be able to take content and reads with 927382738273 posts, most of wh

Kiiinda iffy on owner. One one hand, lol. On the other hand, her calling people out is new to me and I’m not totally sure what to make of it.
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most of which I still haven’t read*

And then a line break

I posted that earlier than I wanted but OH WELL
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I really hate being misread because it makes me want to get on a podium and just talk about myself forever and ever. I’m going to bed.

Kinda think we should try and look at this game through the lens of owner being town and see what falls out.
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@owner

Link most recent town/scum games so I can page through them tomorrow, thank.

 

I'm not 100% on you being scum at all, but "looking at the game from a town!Owner perspective" is what led me to you so yeah.

And we've been over this a million times, but I'm not going to give up trying to read people because other people know and read them better.

 

Vira said: "Knowing that Vira was mafia, makes it more like only one of 113 and jari is scum. It would probably be the one less likely to get lynched of the two. She town read/shielded Tsaiah."

Just before making the post about me and voting me btw. She basically just said "jari is more likely scum than .113" then votes me. heh.
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Burnt out by d2? It's d4 or something now and honestly you haven't been posting much so... Kinda don't see your defense here. Also, do something productive instead of being annoyed someone isn't townreading you, find scum instead.

 

Oh also, you're the one to bring up 'caught' if I remember correctly. I still have yet to ISO you, I'm just throwing out theories over how you'd fit in the team. It just so happens that it doesn't not fit, and pushing reads against consensus if more fun than shruglynching Owner.

All that said, you scum brah.
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I doubt Vira said that.

 

True Owner said that
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I've done an owner ISO, there's.. surprisingly little tbh. I like how she talks about desperation when trying to motivate why I said I scumread owners slot early on, but she herself has completely changed her tone through out the game, being carefree when joining and now seems like she is quite a lot under pressure.
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Am I the only one that thinks we should consider lynching fable sometime, just because.. he's bad. there's like a small small chance he's more or less a lolcatting wolf from the start or something, and I'm almost prepared to lose just to prevent someone from winning like that. Probably not today I guess, but seriously, I'm having seriously bad feelings about fable that make me feel I hope he's a wolf because then it would be ok-ish.

IDK.. I just mean at this point I'd rather play with both batman and JP than with fable again.

 

On the subject of Fable; yeah you're probably the only one.

I could maybe shrug lynch him if we've lynched through Cuth/Fonti/Owner/Vaimes? If there's 2 scum there that'd mean 2 mislynches so Fable would then be the game winning/losing lynch. Appropriate if it were to come to that.

 

Am I the only one that thinks we should consider lynching fable sometime, just because.. he's bad. there's like a small small chance he's more or less a lolcatting wolf from the start or something, and I'm almost prepared to lose just to prevent someone from winning like that. Probably not today I guess, but seriously, I'm having seriously bad feelings about fable that make me feel I hope he's a wolf because then it would be ok-ish.

IDK.. I just mean at this point I'd rather play with both batman and JP than with fable again.

Thats good enough i guess.

@Fable i hope you step up
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Who are the 3 people who supposedly cant read vaimes wrong? Jan and Newcomb i think? Fonti?
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Im re-reading the game from the beginning because.. Well.. Because i cant iso properly on The Phone so just reading everything. Also get the overall feel better.

This post is interesting, i feel like Scott miner and Vira interact with each other differently than with others. Theres some mild jabbing but Also some joking attitude and doesnt seem like theyre worried about each other tbh. Also they Kinda jumped Stanari together a little.
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Miner immediatly does some distancing defense after that post
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Though i apparently missed the QUOTE?
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Though i apparently misse

There it is
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Vira Also goes onto ScottPress right after that post.