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Good. Now do something alignment-indicative.

 

I suppose I'm okay with it.

Basically, like, I believe Scott could potentially have been a wolf more than I believe Owner's play since subbing in could potentially have come from town.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Might be good to get "state of the game" / final thoughts type posts from like... Jarizok, Stanari, Vaimes? NK is probably headed that direction.

 

Vaimes, you and I both know that I could be the towniest paragon of towniness and you'd still have reservations about me.
However, I'm working on it, reading a game like this is significantly more difficult than following along while playing it. I can't live through things like you got to, I can't gauge the mood, and I know what happens for a lot of this stuff.
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Random question: would Newcomb and Fonti both white knight town!Vaimes as scumbuddies?

 

What sold you on Vaimes as town here? IIRC you haven't had that read as you've caught up.
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Think this is a decent look for Fable, considering wolf!Miner?
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I mean. I feel like this... could potentially be w/w.

The thing I like about it for fonti is that bit, though, in Vira's first post in the exchange, where she's like, "fonti you're [scumreading two town], I don't think it's working." Like.. that kind of subtle admonishing feels like something Vira would say to a villager? ish?

Mrgle. @Vaimes thoughts?

 

Don't lynch Newcomb. Don't lynch Vaimes. Shadow still looks better than Cuth. I'm scared of this read but I think Fable is probably town. I'm also scared of this read but I think Fonti is town. Maybe.

I just made a full read post like 30ish posts ago and I don't really expect to be killed, but I guess you can ask me if you want anything else.
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Reminder that the Vira sequence starting here exists.

 

@Newcomb: I wasn't ever scum reading him anyway, but I went ahead and just straight iso'd Vaimes and found several things that are just business as usual for him, and not in a way he would take as scum. And as much as I want to be like "nah, I can totally catch Vaimes where Newcomb and company couldn't" I just don't think that's accurate.
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Make*

 

Given the fact that Vira/Miner talked about wanting to roll w/w pregame, this would be literally the reason this read is wrong. Like, bringing up the exact reason why your townread on a teammate is incorrect feels a bit on the nose.

Not that I'm particularly tinfoiling Stanari but it came up in my gradual re-read.

 

I realized this approximately around the time Vira flipped >__>

 

Also this.
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Just a reminder to myself to ask tom about this in post.

I'm always curious to hear people's perceptions of my scumgame since, barring a few exceptions, people's expectations/perceptions of my wolf game are just bafflingly weird/wrong and it's interesting.

Not super relevant at this point, just.
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Tied into the Fable D1 on Miner thing I posted a bit ago; still think this looks decent for Fable in retrospect, insofar as I think a read on a partner at this stage in the game - when the sentiment from myself and GH is still kind of lingering like "hey Miner's townread on Newcomb was kinda bullshit", Fable taking this line on a partner would surprise me.
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@fontisian can you please turn on the "don't show my online status" thing. I'm trying so hard not to read into you continually checking the thread :v

 

Humm, that must have reset when the updated the site.

 

With the number of people scumreading him D1, it's amazing that Cuth is still alive.
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A post.

Also, @dyachei, do you have any full game read posts on D1? If you do, can you point me in the right direction?
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No flip for me tonight, I guess.

Project Chart Everyone's D1 Readlists was considerably less fruitful than hoped, possibly because 2/3 flipped scum didn't leave D1 readlists.

 

I feel like this is an odd angle from wolf!onti, knowing that Miner's her partner and tom's town.

Like, she's been townreading Miner up to this point, to kind of shit on his tom read as unimportant / not something she's going to factor into her perception of the game just feels... eh? Like, the last bit assumes Miner will flip town, that if she went back after the game to care about that, it would be because town!Miner had a real insight or whatever.

Just feels like... kind of hard to fake that? Like the point/thrust of this post is about tom, the Miner thing is ancillary almost.
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Yeeeeah like. I just don't see wolf!Stanari doing this?

Look at the post Stanari's quoting. Tasiah quotes tom, Zack, Yeahvox, Stanari, Vira, Proph. In other words, all town, Stanari, and a partner.

Stanari picks the one thing that Tasiah said about Vira and gives Tasaih townpoints for it.

????

Hard to imagine Stan being that brazen as a wolf.
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if Owner does end up flipping wolf here's reason #493929 to clear Vaimes

If Owner is town though we're lynching Vaimes for sure, GLGL Vaimes

 

Well, I'm glad my lolearlygame was good for something.

Some D1 rainbow observations before I go to sleep:
- Wei is probably? the only one scumreading both Scott and Cuth. (Technically this is from an early D2 readlist.)
- Fable is townreading all three flipped scum. Lol.
- Fonti's reads (extrapolated painstakingly from her tinkering with YVTN's reads) also have all three flipped scum as town, I think.
- AFAICT literally no one was townreading Cuth. I think this also happened for GH but like. Mmmm.

 

So, we're not hammering but no one is doing anything?
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i like that there was a few readslist from yesterday though, but I guess we're really just waiting for the hammer so we can move on

@Jarizok

you might wanna give everything you've got before the nightphase btw..
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@Newcomb @shadowlancerx

which one of you guys is having a rough time bussing your teammate?

 

In my defense I was willing reconsider tsaiah but you told me no.

 

tsaiah was kinda sneaky

 

I feel like I can't move forward without Owner's flip.

 

@Jari @Vaimes: anything else or should I end it?

 

You are neither Vaimes nor Jari, and even if you're town, I very seriously doubt you risk dying tonight.