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The Office - A Mafia Game

Discussion in 'Little Italy' started by Eidolonic, Oct 27, 2017.

  1. Newcomb

    Newcomb Minister of Magic

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    Man I kind of want to just clear Fable for this single post.

    It just really really doesn't feel like something Fable posts in a world where he knows 113 is town and Scott is mafia.

    The entire focus of the post is getting into wolf!113's head and tacitly assumes Scott is a villager, which like. Does wolf!Fable even think to do that? There's like, no hint in this analysis that Scott would be a wolf, or a wolf /with/ 113.

    And the part where he's calling 113's push an "obvious mistake". Like, it's 100% true that 113's thing with Scott (this is the "what is YVTN is that like RVS?" read) was super reachy and weak, but I feel like if wolf!Fable takes this angle where he's going like, in wolfchat, "rolf double down, tell him he sucks" that he goes... further, somehow, rather than just dancing around the edges of it.
     
  2. Stanari

    Stanari Squib

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    Hope you feel better soon!

    Vote: Cuthalion

    I guess. Bleh. Don't have a ton of time to work on this game until maybe Saturday, sorry.
     
  3. Jarizok

    Jarizok Auror DLP Supporter

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    You colored a thing but didn't say rule of three? Disappointed!
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    Did they kill 113 because this list is correct, or did they kill him because it's wrong and they wanted this legacy post to influence the rest?
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    Rip 113 btw. I'm glad you were town this time.
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    @shadowlancerx Could we get your impressions from catching up in thread please?
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    Hehe.
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    Aw man, with 113 gone I'll be posting in a complete vacuum for 3/4s of the day.
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    I'm reading a multi-ISO of flipped scum to see what pops out. (It's only 15 pages, joy.)

    Initial observation: scum were having fun at game start, interacting with each other /a lot/. Also Stanari because of the Scott/Vira/Stanari situation.

    Town!Zack had this to say about the situation:
    To which Vira replies: "I did it in WHI." I guess that means she doesn't think it's weird, but that statement doesn't cover Stanari's alignment at all.

    This Scott-Stanari thing just keeps on going. Has anyone considered that Scott being all weird over his Stanari read was because he knew she was scum?

    Also noteworthy that neither Cuth nor Fonti is really involved in all of this. I can even see town!Fonti in Vira's
    Vira is obviously unconcerned about being pocketed 'cos she's scum herself, but Fonti asking that implies she doesn't know Vira is scum.

    As an aside, wanting Fonti lynched at some point is also a perfectly good reason to kill 113 over me.

    He, tom actually scumread Stanari. Interesting.

    Dya is still town from Miner spew.

    If there's anything that could have had Stanari have this post count as scum, wouldn't it be rolling scum with tsaiah?

    Another aside, but if Stanari is scum, Cuth probably isn't? For the message stuff. Works the other way as well I guess, but that's really not as much of a surprise.

    The "IDGAF lazy town, in which case maybe subs?" read is really weird from scum!Scott on any town, but I can see it on a teammate? Like, it's flirting with the rules in saying that Stanari cares so little for the game she should be replaced. Is there any world where newplayer!Scott feels confident enough to say that about someone he knows IS town? Whereas about a teammate you can easily say that. The stronger the statement, the better the look after flip from his pov, right?

    That's the first 5/15 pages.
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    I said the thing with Stanari/Cuth not both scum, but I kinda still want to read them that way.

    GH was also scumreading Stanari (remember tom!).

    D1 ends and so does my reread for now, cos work and empty phone.

    I want to say Stanari/Cuth scum, even though I said they're probably not earlier.
     
  4. Fable

    Fable First Year

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    I mean with dya it's just a if she's a wolf she's hyper aware of the types of pushes she makes and the type of people she tends to push. Like I could have told you before this game started she was probably gonna push fonti and ss/yeti at some point so I am EXTREMELY doubtful she'd do that as a wolf because if she was that aware of it she probably wouldn't do it as a villager in the first place.
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    Vaimes is weird you wanna V read cuth's message because I kinda wanna read it as "plz kill me because I'm a wolf that can't win". :p
     
  5. Vaimes

    Vaimes Fifth Year

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    I’m...kind of also considering that Stanari could be the deep wolf.
     
  6. Fable

    Fable First Year

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    Does wolf!Wei wolf lean nearly his entire team? Like I almost wanna say Shadow/Cuth not w/w because of this.
     
  7. Vaimes

    Vaimes Fifth Year

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    “Hey, my solid townreads are all town (? hi font and Fable), please give me permission to hard townread my buddy Stanari.”

    Hm?
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    man I keep going back and forth on wei like whoa.
     
  8. Fable

    Fable First Year

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    Are we suggesting Scott only interacted with other wolves? Not impossible but the thing is he was wolf reading Stanari and Vira right? At one point I remember Scott telling Vira she was distracting him from his Stanari read by acting wolfy, that sounds v/w/w to me personally. Like "hey Vira stop being wolfy so I can try and maybe get people to mislynch Stanari".
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    Also keep in mind Vira somehow found her way to the top section of scott's reads while stanari stayed at the bottom.
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    Also also the stanari wolf read started by her voting for miner......I think Stanari is just a villager guys.
     
  9. dyachei

    dyachei Squib

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    I read that interaction with Stanari as v/w. The way he treats her *isn't* the same as he treats Vira. It just isn't. What are your thoughts on his interactions with newcomb?
     
  10. Fable

    Fable First Year

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    Okay I remembered the Stanari/Vira thing backwards it was "I would be wolf reading vira but Stanari is just way too wolfy so gotta focus on her" point still stands though.
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    Does he have any? I saw him being weird around a vote for Newcomb but that was about it.
     
  11. dyachei

    dyachei Squib

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    He does. Give me a sec, pulling quotes now.
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    The way he talks to Stanari and Vaimes is different than how he talks to Miner and Vira. Like he talks mosly indirectly about the latter where he talks aggressively to the former.
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    The way he talks to Stanari and Vaimes is different than how he talks to Miner and Vira. Like he talks mosly indirectly about the latter where he talks aggressively to the former
    Here, Fable. This is the quote I find weird regarding newcomb. Compare this to his defense of Miner.
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    A break before I post spew analysis would be great!
     
  12. Fable

    Fable First Year

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    Okay that's the thing I saw too and yeah that doesn't sit well with me, it is similar to how he reacted to the vote on Vira.
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    Also I'm dumb af "if Vira was a wolf she'd totally push on other wolves", WHOOPS!
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    Are people maybe wolf reading stanari because she was revealed to be satan?
     
  13. dyachei

    dyachei Squib

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    Looking for spew:

    first RVS vote is for a buddy

    Of note: all the people on Proph's wagon are probably town (Vaimes only one unflipped).

    This is regarding Stan's vote on Vaimes. This is the beginning of his Stanari push.

    Note how he's talking directly to her about her votes (this time regarding wolfbro Miner)

    He then pushes her seriously.

    Look at how he talks to her but about Vira. he doesn't change this until Vira calls him out on it.

    Overexplains the Stan read. If he's w/w with her, this is a nice bit of flustered theater. I just don't think that's the case.

    It continues.

    Response to Vira asking if he will ISO Stan.

    Response to Vaimes. Would be surprised if this is how he talks to a partner (esp compared to how he talks to Miner/Vira).

    Vira calls him out on not talking to her.

    The push on Stan continues. This isn't w/w. It's too involved. I'm sticking with that read.

    This really feels like the way he treats Miner/Vira. I think it's w/w.

    He pushes Wei a bit here. This might be why 113 is dead tbh.

    Yeah, this isn't a partner.

    Look at his read of Newcomb. He literally defended Newcomb earlier. I would be SHOCKED if there isn't a wolf in his townleans. If there's another wolf in neutrals, which I'm not sure there is, it's probably not Jari.
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    I laughed my ass off when I saw that.
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    Did all wolves start with an RVS vote on a bro?
     
  14. Vaimes

    Vaimes Fifth Year

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    Modslip?

    but okay yeah, I feel better. Just had a mild bout of paranoia.
     
  15. Fable

    Fable First Year

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    There are probably relevant stuff and/or things here. Also like all of the flipped wolves except scott were hard village reading stanari so like she's just not a wolf here.
     
  16. Vaimes

    Vaimes Fifth Year

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    Sadly, no.
     
  17. Fable

    Fable First Year

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    Like rule of 3 cuth maaaaaaybe?
     
  18. dyachei

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    Damn, that would have been exciting.
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    Based on?
     
  19. Fable

    Fable First Year

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    Tsaiah's read wall.
     
  20. dyachei

    dyachei Squib

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    Let's look closely at this. Is this how Tsaiah would treat a bro? She townreads the other flipped wolves and she basically wants to townread newcomb here?
     
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