alright so voldemort and harry are both technically immortal from everyone else right.

but what about a muggle seeing as they are non magical would the rules be different. Muggle shoots gun at harry can bullet hit him? can it kill him?

just wondering how far the prophecy/fate goes.

i think by nonmagical means i would say that it is possible for them to die at the hands of someone else.

 

Why is Harry immortal?

He survived the Killing Curse once. I think it's safe to say that yes Harry can die if he's shot--unless he can erect a sheild around himself powerful enough to stop a friggin bullet.

 

No. It says "One must die at the hand of the other," not "One must die at the hand of the other, but a muggle can kill them."

 

the prophecy makes him "immortal"

yeah i know what it says but i'm just wondering about the whole magical vs non magical implications

guess its kind of dumb and pointless to even care but yeah whatever

 

I dunno in terms of the book only voldemort can kill off Harry, but I always found it hard to believe that a bullet could just deflect off Harry with no harm likes he is freakin superman. Interesting idea.

 

I don't know if I believe that nothing can kill Harry except Voldemort...

I mean...nothing? Not a Death Eater's killing curse, not if Dumbledore decided he was tired of the kid and decided to off him, not even if he was shot?

 

There are no "implications" it's pretty clear about it's guidelines.

They can't die, unless the other kills them. If Harry has an AK 47, then, yes, he can kill Voldemort. If a cop on the street shot them with his pistol, it would probably hurt, they might be out for a while, but they'd get back up to fight sooner or later.

I see it as this: Any situation where they should for all means be dead, would probably cause them as much pain as they can handle before they conk out. They won't die, but they might not be able to fight for a few months.

 

It doesn't say anything about him not being able to be crippled comatose or limbless just that he can't die by anybody but voldemort anybody can hurt him just not kill him soething will always by fate intervene to help
ex. fawkes in CoS

 

It's not that nothing is able to kill Harry, it's that nothing will kill Harry.

All a prophesy is is a telling of the future, and this prophesy states that nothing will kill Harry, other than Voldemort, until Voldemort is dead. Harry cannot be killed by anything other then Voldemort simply because of the fact that Trelawny saw that he would never be in the situation where he would have died, other than when he is around Voldemort.

If you look back to the end of HBP you can see this at work. Snape tells the other Death Eater's not to harm Harry.

The power of the prophesy is not that if Harry were hit by a killing curse he would survive (although he might anyway), but that he will never be hit by a killing curse except for from Voldemort.

So apply this to your theory. The power of the prophesy is that Harry will never be shot fatally (as Trelawney has seen he will never be shot), not that if he were shot he would survive.

 

in CoS could that voldemort kill harry?

maybe this was discussed in another thread but i'm wondering.


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oh yeah nevermind now i feel dumb forgot about the whole "seeing" the future thing

 

I read that book once, but you would think that would've sunk in by now. Apparently not.