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The road to hell...

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Kalen_Darkmoon, Jan 23, 2007.

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  1. Kalen_Darkmoon

    Kalen_Darkmoon First Year

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    Anyone remember that old saying about the road to hell being paved in good intentions? Does this bring any characters of the HP world to mind?

    Dumbledore's actions throughout the series are a textbook example of the old saying, "the road to Hell is paved with good intentions." For quite simply it boils down to the facts that:

    Dumbledore's "good intentions" led to an innocent child being brought up abused and hated. :whipped:

    ** For those who will inevitably counter-argue that it kept Harry alive... Any of you ever heard of the concept of quality of life versus quantity? Personally I would have much rather faced the possibility of being murdered and having a good/loving childhood than I would perfect safety if it meant a childhood of abuse and venomous hatred by blood relatives. I'm fairly certain that we can be clear that Harry felt that way since he always looked forward to getting away from the Dursleys despite it being "safer" for him there. **

    Dumbledore's "good intentions" lead to a good and innocent man being condemned to a hellish life-sentence in Azkaban. Rather than using his much vaunted Leglimency skills and/or Veritaserum Dumbledore completely abdicated his position as Chief Warlock of the wizarding court and allowed an innocent man to be thrown away. :wall:

    His "good intentions" in protecting the Sorceror's Stone was bait that lured Voldemort into a school full of children. :confused:

    His "good intentions" to protect Snape led to more than a decade of intimidation, terror and sabotage of hundreds of non-Slytherin children's potions educations and subsequent life-long career options. :eek:

    His "good intentions" have left hundreds of children without a proper education in Defense Against the Dark Arts in such dangerous times. :?:

    Dumbledore's "good intentions" allowed unlimited chances of reform for death-nibblers like Draco Malfoy and it resulted in Malfoy leading Death Eaters past the wards and into Hogwarts. :oops:

    Dumbledore's "good intentions" and blind trust of Snape are completely irresponsible behavior that got himself killed and let Death Eaters loose in Hogwarts. :splatter:

    I hope you will pardon me for believing the old man to be a senile fool at best and out-right menace at worst. :mad:
     
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  2. Skeletaure

    Skeletaure Magical Core Enthusiast ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    I think you are confusing "good intentions that go wrong" with "vital plot device that creates a mystery to solve and peril in the process".
     
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  3. Swimdraconian

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    I don't think you'll find many disagreeing with you here. But the view of Dumbledore you've presented is more of a fanon creation rather than canon.

    IMO, while Dumbledore is presented as a powerful wizard in canon, he's also human. Meaning that he is/was fallible and quite capable of making mistakes.
     
  4. Yarrgh!

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    I don't actually understand why this thread exists...it's pretty much the same as every other "Dumbledore is manipulative" thread, only this points out that everything he's done has ended poorly for the Wizarding World/Harry.
     
  5. Tinn Tam

    Tinn Tam Review Goddess Retired Staff

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    Are all those smilies absolutely necessary?

    What use would have it been, if Voldemort's followers had managed to find him days or months only after his parents' death? One of the reasons Dumbledore did that, was that he had no idea when Voldemort would come back. Perhaps he expected his followers to persevere in their research and bring their master back to life in a matter of months. If he had not done anything, Harry might have died at the age of three or four years old; and then you could've said, "Dumbledore's good intentions led to the wizarding world's only hope getting killed."
    Question was posed to JKR. Answer: powerful wizards such as Sirius are known for their ability to resist to Veritaserum and/or Legilimency. It was Crouch's decision to lock him up without a trial, and Dumbledore was only heard as a witness; and he thought Sirius was Secret Keeper--what else could he have done?

    Because he probably should have known Voldemort was on the back of Quirrell's head...
    All schools have their fearful teacher... Hogwarts is no exception. And I doubt the students were traumatized.
    ...No, that's Umbridge, methinks...

    Oh yes. Because the right thing to do was let Voldemort kill Malfoy's family and/or chuck out of school all the Death Eaters' children for safety.

    That's an enigma in the books (one of the most obvious ones) so no one can say whether it was irresponsibility or something else.
     
  6. World

    World Oberstgruppenführer DLP Supporter Retired Staff

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    Wow, I have never considered this. Thank you for bringing this point to my attention. Who knows how long this similarity might have gone unnoticed if it hadn't been for you.
    [/BioPlague]
     
  7. david9

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    Either Dumbledore is the most incompetent wizard in the history of wizardry, or somehow he was planning everything that happened. IMO it's just a bunch of plot holes and plot devices.
     
  8. Jon

    Jon The Demon Mayor Admin DLP Supporter

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    In my NOT so humble Opinion; Dumbledore had a Heliopath on his nose during the fourth moon of the fifth week of the third Triquintoplypse, this resulted in everything which can be attributed to the not so successful ending of the eight continuing multinomial sequential domination in the third stage of the fourth book's eight page.
     
  9. madeyemoody

    madeyemoody High Inquisitor

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    I think somebody has some abuse issues and takes it out on a fictional wizard you did this 3 times before please stop posting this Dumbledore is "Teh Ev1l !!!!" shit

    a troll hater

    madeyemoody
     
  10. Dark Lord Rostam

    Dark Lord Rostam Button La Famiglia Midknight

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    I remember you. You were the fucktard spamming Sistat bashing Dumbledore. And everyone ripped you to shreds. Now I remember.
     
  11. Master Slytherin

    Master Slytherin Headmaster

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    Ok, this thread is quite far along the road to hell...locked.
     
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