Why are there rules to magic? Isn't magic unlimited by default? In my oppinion, magic should only be bound by the power of the user, not by anything else. Take, for example, apparation wards. The power of the ward should be directly in tune with the power of the caster, thus if someone of stronger power where to try to go through it, they should have that much trouble. Also, magic should be able to do anything. Also, whats up with the incantations? Why pseudo-Latin? I think that if you mean the same thing as the normal incantaion, then you can cast it. Also, wands? Really, why wands? Why not staffs, which kick so much more ass than wands. Why is wandless magic impossible? Its magic, anything is possible with magic. What are your thoughts on this?

 

Because we are used to a life of limits, and naturally we apply them to the things we make up.

 

What happens if we break those limits? What would we become then?

 

But magic is an unrealistic concept, Sree.

 

Philosophers have been asking that question since before Plato's Allegory of the Cave.

As a result you get two different general kingdoms which philosophy falls under:

Those based on reason, and those based on faith.

I have made my view on both clear with other posts.

Technically, you could argue that there are more, or that reason should be replaced by something else... But I am using it so *turns up his nose*

As for my personal view about the limits?

I BELIEVE that limits were meant to be broken, but I KNOW that quite a few limits will never have that happen.

 

Rules are meant to be broken. Why else would we have them. Sometimes, I don't even think of somethings until I read a rule that says I can't do it.

 

Rules are mentally self-imposed limits that keep us sane.

However, magic seems to be more powerful the fewer limits put on it.

Is that why particularly powerful wizards seem to have doubtful sanity?

 

Because otherwise, in JKR's world, you'd have potentially the smallest kid with power equel to Dumbledore. She had to make limitiations to create situations where you'd fear for characters if they go wandless/don't know a spell/etc.

The latin is something that's always been used for the most part. I don't get it, I know supposedly it's a dead language, but any idiot can look at the context it's used in and unless it's one of the obscure ones, figure out what the word means, not really mystical at all. Riddikulus indeed. (that imho was the lamest fucking spell ever put to paper)

 

that, and the fact that it's easier for JKR to write a story because ultimately, the constraints address some of the issues that would come up like those that many have posted on this forum.

 

Well, silent, I think that I agree with you. The more powerful the wizard, the less same they get. Look at Dumbledore and Riddle.

 

Well, if there were no limits, there would be no character death, since everyone would be ressurecting everyone else. An endless struggle, when the only way one could win would be to kill the enemy, and steal their body.

And since I haven't thought this through, that might not even work. Hmm..

 

I believe ther are limits on everything, and that includes magic. While suing magic you should be able to do "virtually" anything. Like ressurecting some one 3000 years dead no possible. Destroying the sun, not possible, melting into the earth, not going to happen. Besides the redicules ideas such as those and others, i think that magic can be used to do anything.

 

Well, hobbes, I think that anything is possible with magic, it just requires a lot of power, and to be balanced, does some form of damage to the caster.

 

Think of it this way. There is no limits on magic only on its conduits. Magic can resurrect someone, but wizards cannot. Wizards use wands not because magic needs it but that wizards themselves aren't capable of wielding it without them. They use psuedolatin instead of their native language so their everyday conversations won't cause their wands to set their robes on fire.

House elves don't use wands or incantations not because they use differant magic, but because they are designed differantly.

Magic is the same everywhere and is capable of anything, but the conduits are differant and so impose differant restrictions on what can be done. If there iis ever a perfect conduit then that has the potential to do anything.

 

That's really good there Necrule... Never thought of it that way... But what if you have someone that was so powerful that there conduit didn't work for them anymore?

 

I meant the conduit as being the wizard themself. The wand is not the restriction the wizard is. It just so happens that a wand is one of those restrictions. If a wizard is so powerful that they can't use their wand or any wand then they are no longer a wizard, they are something else, because a wizard can never go beyond a wand and still be a wizard.

 

I have a theory, which i will incorperate (SP?) in my ff. All wizards draw their power from the core of earth. when a wizard is born, he takes a certain sum of power from the very core of earth, and that power imbues itself in his body, so he can replenish itself. Because for over 2 thousand years people have been taking the power of earth, the globe's defences are weakening and things like the tsunamis and huricanes, happen because of this lack of balance. For this reason a thousand years ago 4 not way above average wizards were capable of conjuring a castle (hint, hint?) and today average wizards is a fucking weakling.
What you think?

 

That is an original twist. But wouldn't most of it be returned to the earth and only the magic used in permanent works like Hogwarts remain separate from the Earth.

 

Most of it would return when the body rots, but a little of the magic "releases" into the air and firework spells shot high enough out of the atmosphere, and bit-by-bit, over more than 5 millenias enough magic was released to make earth lack a serious ammount.