Sounds good. But wouldn't the sun add a little magic back? So that would mean creatures that live in the sun would have a slight advantage to those who live only in the dark. Maybe that is the reason so many of them feed off of others, they need to make up for that disadvantage. Interesting.

 

a very very interesting theory sepanto

I personally think that magic is more like oxygen. The more that can be carried round the body by the blood the better the person is at it. Like fitter folk have more oxygen in their blood stream, so more powerful folk have more magic in their bloodstream

 

An interesting idea, but then you'd have to account for millenia of bullshit magic that's not left around like Hogwarts is.

If some strong wizards 1,000 years ago could conjure a massive castle, why wouldn't the ones 2,000 years prior done some massive insane thing like conjur islands, ones years before that huge mountains, etc. It just doesn't work when you scale it back. 10,000 years ago you could do Atlantis, but then you still have a hell of alot of time you won't be able to fill up believably. Even with no decrease in power in the Founders' time, you still don't have enough things to account for millenia.

Conjuration in HP is odd anyway, noone conjurs anything lasting, I'll assume it's canon that the conjuration goes after awhile, otherwise everyone would have clothes, food, etc. The Weasely family can't afford shit, and they have some capable wizards in their house, if conjuration was permanent, they'd be living in more then a hovel and wearing third+ generation clothes.


(conjuration in HP is odd anyway, noone conjurs anything lasting, I'll assume it's canon that the conjuration goes after awhile)

 

I have this theory that mixes scientific fact and magic together. Sadly its only really started to form : ( Something along the lines that magic is drawn from the sub-atomic energy, the dilution of magic is due to the pollution and industrialistaion of the world causing it the a far less purer version that the one that had existed for example in the Founders time..

A bit half assed. I'll edit this post once I get it more formed.

 

I have an idea: Maybe we should divide the human race into ranks.
Let's start: Muggle: Can't use magic
Squib: Can't use magic
Wizard: Can do magic
OK, now let's divide the wizard category into many subtitles:
Normal: A normal wizard.
Enchanter: Twice as powerful as a wizard.
Illusionist: Four times as powerful as a wizard; can use wandless magic but with a lot of straining.
Sorcerer: Even more powerful than an illusionist; can use wandless magic with less straining than an illusionist.
Mage: Cannot use a wand anymore because it would explode because of the outburst of magic. A mage uses Wandless easily. He also uses staffs.

A mage also can go to two higher levels:
Elemental: Controls the elements, you know...
Telekeni: not the cliche Telekeni, like you can move stuff, no, i mean Telekeni as controling anything. Examples, you can detach molecules, cells, atoms; you can also move them...

Well i gtg, hope you think this suggestion is acceptable.
Sincerely,
The Saiyan Mage.

 

This can be summarised cliche's to the beginning writer part 1.

 

indeed, this is an excellent summary of thousands of rankings out there. When i read that post, I thought at first it was supposed to be sarcastic, but it was serious, and I was jsut like, OMG!!!!!! he did that on this site?

 

Not really, sorry but this is so cliche now. It was an ok idea at first but there were too many Heir of everyone fics out there that used this and it really puts some people off. There are a few interesting power measuring methods in fics out there but I really don't like this whole class system,

 

I was really reading that hoping I wouldn't see the word "Arch." *shudder*
If there is one thing I hate, its "Arch Mages". Freaking Arch. I come on, its not enough to be a Wizard, or the Boy-Who-Lived, or the Chosen One, or any other number of stupid names with Capital Letters at the start of them, but no , its has to be Arch Mage. Yikes.

And yeah, the idea wasn't extremely bad Saiyan, its just in all of the Heir fics (you know the type; Heir of Merlin, Heir of Gryffindor, Heir of God, oh no wait, scratch the last one) they make a little magical list (in bold writing) that has pretty much all those names listed. But don't forget Metamorphagus and Magical Animagus or multi-animagus (I can turn into every animal in the world...ever!). Its all I can do to bite my tounge when Harry doesn't turn into a flame-breathing dragon or a petrifying basilisk when he next meets Voldemort. Alas, the author does not have the intelligence to work out that just staring into Voldemorts eyes would kill him.

Oops, I've gotten into another rant about H/G Super!Harrys. Won't happen again, promise. *shifts uncomfortably.*

 

Well, element, I think that the Arch Magi stuff comes from Arch Angels, which are higher up than normal Angels.

 

Doesn't make it any better, though :wink: . Point taken, though.
Well, back on topic ; Magic in the world is like everything else in the wizarding world like the Government, rules, characters: absolutely screwed.

 

Well, I think that while magic should have no rules, there should be repercussions. For instance, in the D&D Epic Level hand book, there is a spell that does 290 d6 worth of damage. Thats enough to fell a pretty big ass dragon. But, the caster then takes 180 d6 worth of damage, so it all balances out. Also, things like the wish spell in D&D need to be worded very carefully, as things can happen that you don't expect.

 

i think that idea is sort of like the idea in the Forbidden Texts trilogy, about how spells that have adverse effects against someone, and require a sacrifice which is not personal, cause a mutation of the body, unless the backlash of the spell is channelled into another sacrifice.

It really is an interesting idea. In the trilogy tehre was 3 type of magic. Falcon magic is purely defensive, and involves only personal sacrifice. Basically you offer a sacrifice and prayer to some hihger entity and if it deems your sacrifice worthy it grants the prayer. Sacrifices range from drops of blood, to the soul.

Wolf magic uses localised sacrifices, a person or two within a circle of runes, and they die to make the spell work. This type of magic causes a magical backlash on the casters, that twists the body, but no the mind. The backlash can be chanelled by experienced casterss onto someone else (usually either a less experienced rival caster, or anotehr sacrifice)

Dragon magic, which is uncontrolled sacrifice. Kills hundreds and thousands of people in a large area to power spells. Massivelly powerful, but again causes backlash onto the casters, but it can't be diverted onto someoen else, and it twists themind more than the bodies.

 

Forrbiden Texts Trilogy? What's that?

 

its a fantasy series written by Holly Lisle, set in anotehr world. Main plot is about the spirits of the Dragon wizards trying to take over the world, because they were all banished into the Void a thousand years ago by the Falcon wizards. Since then magic has been out lawed and the world ahs fallen into decadence

There is also a healthy dash of well written romance in it and some personal angst and such like.

 

Getting BOT, do you all think that with suficient power a wizard could break or bend the rules?

 

I personally would like to believe that magic is an almost sentient being, and if it gets abused too much for the wrong purposes it strikes back.

Look at Voldie, magic hasn't killed him for his actions yet because he does have a semi reasonable purpose in mind, the purification of the bloodline, which is technically a worthy goal. However, it may disagree with some of his actions, the rituals he ahs done have twisted him beyond recognition as Tom Marvolo Riddle, which could be construed as a punishment for his crimes.

Also, look at Dumbles, he is at the very least slightly insane, which may be a punishment form magic for mild abuse of his power.

 

Those are some very good points there. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction.

 

yes, I mean, really is anything even slightly sentient not going have at least some small moral objection about the rape and murder of a hundred pre-adolescent boys (which seems to be a favourite power gaining ritual in the fandom just now)

 

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rules harry dosent listen to rules he is majic so he can do enything