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Theory about Ollivander

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Master Slytherin, Jan 1, 2006.

  1. Silent

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    Have you heard the logic behind that one? It actually is relatively plausible, considering how much JKR enjoys symbolism
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    So far, there are two founders' possessions represented, and three if Voldemort got his hands on something of Griffindor's. With three of the founders's items, why not get something from the fourth to complete the set?

    As for the reasoning behind a wand, it has to do with the four suits of tarot cards. There are pentacles (like Slytherin's amulet), cups(like Hufflepuff's cup), swords(like Griffindor's sword) and that leaves the suit of wands for Ravenclaw.
     
  2. Dark Syaoran

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    He can only have three of the founders items since there are 6 Horcruxes plus the piece inside his fetus-made body. Unless Nagini isnt a Horcrux. I dont know if this is fully confirmed or not, Dumbledore just said it was probably it, even if using a living creature isnt the smartest thing to do. It could turn out that the snake isnt it and there is something of both Ravenclaw and Gryffindor but that remains to be seen.

    Ring = Slytherin
    Locket = Slytherin
    Cup = Hufflepuff
    Diary = His/Slytherin (Chamber of Secrets knowledge)
    Nagini = His
    ??? = Ravenclaw or Gryffindor
     
  3. noddwyd

    noddwyd Third Year

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    this is just in the scenario that Harry isn't a horcrux, which is highly unlikely given what we've seen so far of his connection to Voldemort.
     
  4. Necrule Paen

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    Rowling has already stated that Harry isn't a horcrux. Which makes sense because they have a connection, Voldemort does not have that sort of connection with the horcruxes, Rowling made it very clear in HBP that Voldemort does not know if a horcrux is destroyed unless he checks on it, she probably did that so people wouldn't say "Oh Harry is a horcrux so he must die in the seventh book." He isn't one and hopefully he will.
     
  5. noddwyd

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    harry may not be one but his scar still could be, it all depends on what really happened that night, which still hasn't been made clearer than my tap water, which is pretty bad at the moment.
     
  6. noddwyd

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    oh, there is also the theory that Olivander is actually Nicholas Flamel which is why he seems so old and creepy. That could also explain the 'order member we haven't met properly yet'.
     
  7. LINKed up

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    Maybe. Maybe not. We'll have to wait until the next book.
     
  8. Magnus

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    Haven't we established that J.K.R doesn't give a fuck what she says? If there are any really bad fuck-ups in the plot she will probably say it doesn't ahve to make sense because it's magic. By the way, who wouldn't be able to tell if a part of their soul was destroyed? See what I mean?
     
  9. Randeemy

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    there are other wand makers. The fact that Hagrid says there is no finer place than Olivanders suggests that there are others..

    His disappearance is important. Definatly. That is why JKR reminded us of his existance in book 4. It would completly stupid to talk of his disappearance in book 6, if nothing were to come of it. Perhaps, as the opening post suggested, he is looking for Horcuxs. not sure. But JKR has also said that people may have missed hints scattered throughout the books, especially the last couple as people read them too quickly.

    (Randeemy's fact of the day. On the release of the HBP, trips to casualty in the UK dropped by 20%. and it was also stated by some Dr. of something that if Harry potter sparked further interest in reading amongst young people, we can expect an increase in obescity. ALthough that is rubbish cause all kids would do instead of read is sit and play computer games...)
     
  10. Randeemy

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    Harry, nor his scar is ahorcrux. 1 cause jKR says so and 2: it doesnt make any sense, you have to kill with the intention of making a horcrux (I think, dont quote me on it, but that is the basis of my point). Lily was killed in the heat of the moment. However, he could have been preparing to make a horcrux out after killing Harry.
     
  11. Dark Lord Rostam

    Dark Lord Rostam Button La Famiglia Midknight

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    Ollivandeer prob Ravenclaws heir and thats why he gone and everything gone with him i mean from B.C his fam been makin wands so he could have hers and left so it not destroyed.

    But that opens the plot hole of him even getting the wand in the first place....im confused
     
  12. shlager_5321

    shlager_5321 First Year

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    i dont think that it is that obvious that he would have gone to Dumbledore with the information - look at our old friend Slughorn... he knew Riddle as a student and he knew that he wanted to split a horocrux 7 times becuase of the magical proprty on the number and yet he sat there for who knows how long and kept quiet even during Voldemorts first reign - and (if i remember correctly from canon) the light side was losing then until came baby Harry...
     
  13. Lord Nemesis Black

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    Either way you think about, his disappearence has to have something to do with the plot of the story in book seven, cause while he maybe or may not be the only wand maker in the UK, he is still the most heavly used wand maker for Hogwarts students. Now saying that he either went into hiding just to escape the war or wither or not he joined voldie's side. Doesn't really matter at this point in the game. the stage is set either way and with the final peices falling into place one way other another something is going to happen that

    A. either we don't expect or..

    B. we saw comeing a mile away.
     
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