That's how they are advertising it in the far east :awesome.

Spoiler

It's a fan made poster that was taken for the real thing in China

EDIT: Now if I can just find an English version of this to post in the movie theaters, and on church billboards . . .

 

I really liked Thor 2 and think it's even a cut above Thor 1 (although the emotional arcs in the first one were stronger because both Thor and Loki were "finding" their true selves).

I love Natalie Portman but her character seems to be lacking something (and there was the whole Dark Phoenix copycat stuff). The screen time was most engaging when focused on Thor, Loki, Loki, or action. It dragged a tiny bit with Portman and co. on Earth.

I wish they'd given that Asgardian girl (?) more of a role.

The moment when Loki seems to have betrayed everyone was a really great scene and then at the end - that was just awesome.

Cut scenes post credits were meh.

 

This movie merely reaffirmed what a terrible fucking idea it was to change Thor's backstory from it's Golden Age incarnation to "literally Thor, now in Arkansas."

People who never read any of the old comics don't even understand why the hell Natalie Portman is in the movie. From a purely self-contained narrative perspective, neither do I. I almost feel the need to explain this, just because I'm not sure anybody even understands what the hell I'm referring to.

It was still better than the first Thor movie, though. We're moving in a general direction of improvement, and that's a plus. The first Thor was even worse than Captain America, and that's saying something.

 

Does anyone have a link to the second after credit scene by any chance?

 

Did anyone else wonder why Asgard is so technologically challenged that their civilization didn't advance in the 5,000 years since they fought the dark elves again? If you count the things that the dark elves can do, shouldn't Asgard at least have that technology?

 

I counter a question with a question; in what way were the Dark Elves more advanced? I saw no suggestion of any such thing. The Dark Elves had the advantage of a surprise attack, that nobody saw them coming because they were obviously defeated, and that they got a guy on the inside prior to the surprise attack.

Do you not think it would have gone differently if they had not chosen to sneak inside, and instead waged a full frontal assault without any stealth involved?

A stone knife can kill a guy in combat armor if you stab him with it and he doesn't see you coming.

And how are the Asgardians not advanced? You do realize that they use swords and shields in addition to ranged weaponry because every last one of them is superhuman, right? We'd probably still issue swords to people if one guy with a melee weapon could reliably kill anywhere from one to fifteen people on a battlefield where bullets and plasma weapons are fielded before getting cut down or being forced to retreat. Asgardians aren't nearly as fragile as humans are (or rather, Asgardians are a fair bit tougher and stronger than every other sapient species in the galaxy). They also have access to magic. They can afford to have their tech be high fantasy and sword and sorcery, where other races and species could not. It's part of why they're a dominant civilization in the universe.

The only thing we saw that would qualify as "more powerful technology" from the Dark Elves would be the Aether, and as far as that goes, Odin has an entire vault full of doomsday things of equal or greater caliber of Godzilla Threshold, and for another, I'm pretty sure I remember it being stated that the Dark Elves put all their eggs in one basket, and devoted all of their energy towards harnessing the Aether as a weapon and fielding it to return the universe to darkness, so them being able to use it and control it where Asgardians couldn't makes sense. They're beings of Darkness, not Light, and they had studied and researched it for the express purpose of wielding it, whereas Asgard would have only cared about it's containment or destruction.

 

Asgard does have technology of their own and probably more advanced in some areas than the Dark Elves. One thing that the Dark Elves were advanced in is spaceships. The only Asgardian craft I can remember in the movie was the boat thing that was used to escape. What happened to aerial combat as a defense to a siege over their city? Or did they think a giant dome over Asgard and ground troops were enough?

That surprise attack that happened so quickly shouldn’t have been so easily accomplished. The Dark Elves had limited numbers and while sneaking that berserker in was a good idea, shouldn’t Asgard prisons by now take into account berserker strength? How about some detection system for that berserker stone hidden in Algrim? Another issue is how the Dark Elves got the intel on where the power source for that huge dome was located. Loki might have told him with that vague clue, but has Asgard technology remained so unchanged for thousands of years that the power source was so easily identified?

I’m not talking about how Asgard uses melee weapons. Its dominant use does not indicate lack of technology and actually makes for really cool fight scenes.

I cannot agree with the magic argument. In the comics, yes, but in the Marvel Cinematic Universe:

1) First Thor movie, Thor tells Jane, “Your ancestors called it magic...but you call it science. I come from a land where they are one and the same.”
2) Second Thor movie, Jane confirms that Asgard’s “soul forge” is synonymous to a “quantum field generator.”
3) Executive Producer Kevin Feige said in an interview that it may look like magic, it’s actually sci-fi.

Asgard must advance scientifically just like everyone else. The fact that the Dark Elves cloaked their ship (which should have been outdated technology in present time), practically sat on top of Asgard, and destroyed the castle has many implications. What happened to the counter-stealth technology that Asgard should have been developing? Asgard should have detected that ship long before it arrived.

I agree the Aether was powerful, indestructible even for Asgard – at that time. They should have gone back and tried another method to destroy it. Thor demonstrated that he couldn’t even with Mjolnir, but that was still only one attempt in 5000 years. And I bring up the magic-science argument again. Just because this “darkness” was first controlled by the Dark Elves, doesn’t mean that Asgard can’t learn about it. Natural physical laws apply to everyone and there should be nothing that says Dark Elves has an exclusive right.

 

The dark elves reminded of me black and white Teletubbies, maybe thinner though.

 

Nothing is supposed to be able to sneak past Heimdall, so it makes sense that Asgard wouldn't have elaborate anti-air defenses over their city. You'll notice modern civilizations don't stick anti-aircraft batteries on top of skyscrapers in the middle of their capital cities unless they're crazy dictatorships. And you're forgetting that if the Dark Elves hadn't snuck a Kursed warrior into the main keep ahead of time, "a giant dome and ground troops" would have been more than enough.

And I'm sure if a modern thriller writer had written a book on the premise, there would be a thousand and one reasons why 9/11 couldn't have happened, because that was just five crazy guys who snuck onto two planes.

You're underestimating how dangerous the knife you aren't expecting can be. Heimdall can see LITERALLY EVERYTHING. If the Dark Elves have a way around that, they can basically donkeypunch Asgard to all-hell, and nobody would ever see it coming.

That's the funny thing about your stance. If you should be complaining about anything, it should be a complaint about how in the hell did they have the ability to hide from him. But you're not. You're splitting hairs about surprise attacks and how it shouldn't have been that easy, even though there are documented cases in real life that yes, it really CAN be that easy. One crazy guy with an off the shelf rifle can cause a disaster. This is an army of supernatural aliens with hyperadvanced technology that everybody thought were wiped out ten thousand years ago, and which are invisible to literally all forms of detection until they choose to decloak.

You realize this is basically the equivalent of Atilla the Hun reappearing over Europe in a vast armada of F-18s that start carpet bombing nations back to the stone age, right?

That Asgard got away with as little damage as it did is a testament to the strength and skill of Asgardian warriors and their defenses.

In the Marvel Cinematic Universe, the Gauntlet Exists. And any sufficiently studied magic is indistinguishable from science to those that have studied it.

Sorcerery exists. They're even making a Doctor Strange movie in the next wave. Deal with it.

Except that they didn't know where it was, and they couldn't have reached it until the events of the movie even if they'd know it's location.

Read some of the Thor comics, and you'll understand why. Beings of Darkness and beings of Light are like matter and anti-matter. This has come up before. Most of the Dark beings in our universe were wiped out a long time ago, and some alternate universes and parallel dimensions had Darkness win instead of Light in the primeval struggle, which is supposedly where entities like Dormammu come from.

 

Loki snuck past Heimdall in the first movie.

Asgard fought with the Dark Elves, they should have been familiar with the technological capabilities of the elves – unless you’re suggesting that the Dark Elves created a new super-cloaking method in a matter of days that trumped Heimdall's eyes.

Asgard actually did have anti-aircraft turrets in their city. I’m talking about their own aircraft. If you’re going to compare to modern first world cities on earth, there are helicopters that can be deployed in emergency situations.

Those five guys used U.S. planes, now if they were trying to fly into the country with the planes from their own country, that probably wouldn’t have gone as well.

Again, Heimdall can’t see everything, as stated above. This Dark Elf cloaking technology should have been 5000 years old. Asgard should have made a counter to it if not during their war with the elves, at least after thousands of years.

No, it’s not. Using a similar example, I’m suggesting Atilla the Hun reappearing over Europe with horses and melee weapons that were used during his time, not our time. Atilla and his army would do damage to our civilian population yes, but he shouldn’t be able to easily take over military compounds, even if he did sneak in some of his men inside. Take someone from thousands of years ago and tell him that he needs to shut down the power for the building, and he’ll have no clue where to start.

This made me realize another thing. There should have been a back-up power source in case something does happen to the main one.

Just because the Gauntlet exists, does not make it magic. Look at Iron Man 3. Mandarin was supposed to possess alien magical rings, but he ended up being a persona of a drug-addicted actor.

Are you trying to quote Arthur C. Clarke’s Third Law? Because that’s sci-fi and would support my argument more. In the movies, magic and science mean the same thing. The creators of the movies say it’s the same thing. You can’t separate them.

Again, Iron Man 3 example. I imagine they’re going to say something about how Doctor Strange looks like magic, but it really isn't.

Thor’s grandfather Bor tried to destroy the Aether at the end of the war, but couldn’t, so instead he hid it. That was in the movie. Asgard knew.

If the movies were following comic rules, then yes, I would agree with you. But they’re not, the movies are changing a lot of things and one of them is making the MCU a sci-fi. You’re clinging onto the idea that the movies are just like the comics instead of recognizing these changes.

 

I wonder if the the movies in the series will be about other things in the vault? the eye of agamotto is in there, but there are said to be three. We do know there is a dr strange movie coming.
that tablet that was shown is incomplete as well, so the pieces may be on earth. so treasure hunt is always enjoyed.