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Complete Time, Mr. Potter? - By Tw15ted - M

Discussion in 'The Alternates' started by Twisted, May 8, 2008.

  1. Schrodinger

    Schrodinger Muggle ~ Prestige ~

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    I must say, reading a fic that actual updates is refreshing. There seems to be a sad lack of good fics that update frequently. And i have a question: how exactly does being a corpse help him? Unless he is the kind of corpse like undead that can pull themselves back together when they are exploded?
     
  2. Agnostics Puppet

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    Well, I'd imagine that he feels no pain. So a cutter to the chest will just make him laugh. And since hes dead...well...undead, I doubt a killing curse will work. Hes far from invincible, but hes pretty damn close.
     
  3. Schrodinger

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    PAin? True. But getting slice in half is going to cripple him if he can't somehow pull himself back together.
     
  4. Rayndeon

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    He's hardly invincible. Have people forgotten that Inferi are weak against fire? An Incendio will pwn Harry, provided they can get one in. He'd should still remain vulnerable to Dementors, percussive/shearing curses i.e. Confringo, Sectumsempra, etc.
     
  5. HSRTG

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    Against normal mindless Inferi, yes. Against Harry? Three words: Flame Freezing Charm.
     
  6. Twisted

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    Chapter 24 is live.

    Now for the loving embrace of english and politics revision. Fanfiction will have to wait.
     
  7. sincostan

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    He didn't want to live with having killed his gay lover.
     
  8. ancientdragon14

    ancientdragon14 Backtraced

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    Yes very good. Ch 25 is coming when?

    Keep up with the writing...

    And post soon... I dub you the boredom killer.

    Zombie Harry kicks balls with his dead body and his skills... lolz
     
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  9. Oneiros

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    I didn't particularly care for the whole magical signature bit. If there was such a thing, it would completely invalidate several things from the books and in your stories. There would be no way for dark wizards to hide who they were, no way to claim someone was controlling them, and the whole thing with the trace detecting underage magic wouldn't make sense. Why have a trace when you can tell who cast what magic in what area? Why do you even need people to investigate murders or have a trail when you can tell when and who cast dark magic by examining the residue left at the crime scene?

    Plus, I tend to prefer magic being presented as being magic. I don't buy into the whole this person has his own magic bull. No canon evidence plus the potential for many flaws in the story created by the existence of a magical signature make me really hate the use of such things in a story. Even if there was one, the only way it would possibly work would be if it could be masked by a talented caster, and I'm sure Dumbledore wouldn't leave his on file at the ministry nor would he leave traces of his magic if he was going to do something legally questionable. Overall, I've enjoyed your story, and I love the whole idea of Harry coming back from the dead, but the ministry bit at the end seems tacked on for no reason other than to add pointless conflict in the story.
     
  10. Twisted

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    Wow once again someone who decides to exploit a "plot hole" before the fic has even properly addressed the plot point.

    As Chapter 25 will reveal, the whole magical signature thing is easily concealable with an incantation, which makes tracing the signatures usually impossible, but more of a formality. Kind of like dusting for fingerprints when loads of criminals just wear gloves nowadays. However Harry was hardly in the right frame of mind to do this, and so left some traces behind.
    Magical signatures are kept on file from when you had the Trace on you, therefore they would have Dumbledore's, despite his usual employment of the incantation. Also being a famous and ridicuously powerful wizard, Dumbledore's signature would practically shine when detected. So to sum up, its just not something they get to do all the time, and it isn't an exact science, but it works pretty well when they get to do it.

    I hope this clears it up. Otherwise it would take like 5 seconds for them to work out the Phoenix was Harry. The reason they don't suss it now having detected some of the Phoenix's magic and got enough for a match is that Harry's signature is not the same as it was before, because of the time travel.
     
  11. ancientdragon14

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    If his body is dead... then isn't it rotting?

    or is there a spell on his body to keep it from rotting? but then wouldn't the magical discharge remove the spell so he would have to keep casting it? And if his body is dead that means he can't exactly move it the normal way right? so his movements are governed by his magic... but then what happens when he exhausts his magical core in an intense duel? he won't move, but will he heal? Doesnt the magical core have to be inside a living person?

    so can he heal? Or will his body just break down in time?
     
  12. Twisted

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    So many preemptive questions :)

    While these would be addressed in chapter 25, no harm in a quick overview here.

    His body is indeed slowly rotting, but Harry is going to realise and correct this in chapter 25, never fear. He may indeed smell a bit.
    His movements and general sustained magic is a combination of his own magical reserves, which are pretty good but not exceptional, and Dumbledore's, which are pretty long lasting. He isn't in danger of having the Inferius ritual just wear off any time soon, never fear.

    And as for healing... well, that would be telling.
     
  13. ancientdragon14

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    Ok so he's got magical reserves right but will they regenerate if he's not actually alive? I mean once he does a spell, his magical power reduces and he tires right? So he could depend on Dumbledore's magic, but then that is his greatest weakness. All V needs to do is kill D and HP won't be able to use magic.

    And I've never heard of an inferi doing magic. I thought they were just zombies.
     
  14. Blaise

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    It's his fucking story. Let it unfold before asking a littany of gay questions that are all different ways of saying "WHATS GONNA HAPPEN HUH HUH HUH?!?!"
     
  15. Agnostics Puppet

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    They way I interpreted it was; That first apparation attempt and the two spells had to push their way through the residual magic that Dumbledore left in Harry's body, thus tiring him.

    As for the inferi-magic thing, and inferius is just an animated corpse. Dumbledore just took it a step further and crammed Harry's soul back in the body. This links it with your first concern. Im pretty sure magic is linked with the soul.

    Harry's soul is in an inferius body, thus allowing him to use magic.
     
  16. Ched

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    Just caught up on Chapters 23-24.

    Good stuff! Definately going somewhere with this and I'm loving it. The white robe and black mask costume is cool. I actually can't believe I haven't seen that done before, it seems like something people would do more often in hindsight.

    Good job too with the descriptions of the zombie aspect of things. Dark spell, giving him murderous impulses, Dumbledore being in his head, Dumbledore no longer being in his head, etc.

    Also props for the best description of a frazzled, beat up Dumbledore that I've seen in c24. Thestrals kick ass. Excellent use of them with Harry as a zombie. I'm referring to him as a zombie for the hell of it, it's fun.

    Magical signature is the equivalent of a fingerprint? Both in terms of it absolutely identifies someone AND is easy enough to mask if you just take precautions? I like it.
     
  17. Ame River

    Ame River First Year

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    I've been following this story for a bit of a while now. Some things are better than others. I agree that Harry's characterization is a bit off, and I think it's a bit lame that the story gave up on the Hogwarts side of the plot so quickly.

    I think the Dumbledore characterization has been fairly interesting and I'm interested to see where his lates exploits will take him. Yay for a Dumbledore who's not afraid to go dark... though it does cast quite a bit of irony on his earlier concerns about Harry being too dark and brutal.

    I'm not thrilled with the idea of powerful!insane!zombie!Harry, but I have faith that you're going somewhere with it and that this won't turn into something like a reverse Resident Evil movie, where instead of the hero killing all the zombies, the zombie kills all the people. Actually, that sounds like it might be kinda cool in a movie. But I'm not sure it would fit with where the story has been so far. I suppose I'll wait and see.

    My rating probably would have been 4/5 until the zombie stuff. I think 3.5/5 for now but I'll knock it right back up if something else awesome happens.
     
  18. Twisted

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    This has been something I've kind of regretted doing as an FF author - Hogwarts is always fun really. But it just doesn't gel in these kinds of stories for Mr. Adult Killer Harry to hang around with kiddies.

    However with this fic the end is indeed in sight, and I have another, entirely seperate fic, in the planning stages so hey, Hogwarts may be visited by me yet.

    Thanks for reading guys, Chapter 25 is at the 5K word mark and nearly done, but exams and stuff get in the way :p
     
  19. Ame River

    Ame River First Year

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    *Shrug.* Makes sense, but still somehow unsatisfying. I'd be interested to see how you write the Hogwarts characters/scene.

    Good luck with exams and whatnot, don't let finals get you down I always say.
     
  20. Agnostics Puppet

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    I'm...not sure I like the interaction between Scrimgeour and Dumbledore. It seems to me that Scrimmy gave in too easily. I agree with the resolution. Scrimgeour can't afford to estrange Dumbledore, but I feel he didnt hesitate nearly enough.

    I do like how Harry is progressively struggling with his inferi urges.

    Other than that, I like it. Hurry with the next chapter.
     
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