Don't make me slap a bitch. Also don't make empty threats, they really don't help win the game. You also probably shouldn't take stuff said in a mafia game so personally.


Since nothing really seems to be happening should we just early lynch it?

Early Lynch Vote Ericf

 

Early lynch EricF


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hey, proph could answer the question

 

Tell me what you would get out of it.

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Early Lynch EricF

 

Thinking about the cop check. Let's suppose for a moment that I'm not completely wrong and Luckylee is scum. Whomever the cop checks will turn out innocent. We can then just pressure Ruckylee.

 

I think checking Lucky is better because it either town or scumfirms Kai at the same time, whereas any other check would only apply to one person. Obviously it's up to the priest to decide but I think Lucky is the best check.

 

Early lynch: EricK

I think that's L-2.

This works in both directions, you could use it to argue for any target.

It also depends on the Priest claiming a town result, and I'm not sure why anyone would do that. It also depends on the Priest surviving.

I'd rather be checked over Lucky because Lucky is about as mechanically-proven town as it gets, but either way, the Priest should check whoever he/she thinks is scum. I don't know why we're trying to coordinate it.

 

I agree with Rubicon, the priest should check who they find as scummy.

Ses, I made a typo. I don't think Ruckyree is scum and it is a waste of a check.

Logically, a cop wouldn't claim an innocent result, thus causing the pressure on Ruckylee to eliminate that theory. Ruckylee claims.

If no counterclaim emerges, Ruckylee should be left alive. Scum soup Ruckylee. If there is no cc and no souping, the group would likely know Ruckylee is lying and he picked a role in the graveyard.

If a counterclaim does emerge, we have a 1 v 1 scenario with town v scum. If Ruckylee is the last scum, then there is not much he can do at that point. We lynch him. If Ruckylee is town, we lynch his opponent and we are down to 1 scum left.

I know at least Kai or Fonti was town as I am not the clown.

The best case scenario: Town wins because scum!Ruckylee claims a role already present.

Worst case scenario town!Ruckylee gets souped with the night kill AFTER tonight or gets mislynched and stops a fake claim. scum!Ruckylee picks a role already in the graveyard and fails to get souped.

This only works with Ruckylee because he's presumably the last scum.

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Look at my plan above.

The rational action is to check someone other than Ruckylee. Since Ruckylee must be the last scum (Eric and Kai would be in the graveyard), a guilty on any other player means that Ruckylee is innocent.

 

I don't mind being checked, it would prove my claim on Kai being angel. Check me, than check Sesc(who was Zeit who I thought was scum). Sesc, I think you're scum because I think Zeit was scum. TBH for lack of better target since Eric is already gonna be lynched.

 

Not sure if serious

You have considered that if only one of them was town, the fallen witch got to decide who to protect, right? Shouldn't that make you pretty sure that both fontisian and KaiDASH are town?

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nevermind...

 

No. I am far from certain Ruckyree is town. I created a plan that accomodates that possibility. Unless the Priest comes forward with a guilty, that plan should be followed.

 

Sorry, by nevermind I meant: I'm stupid, don't listen to me

 

I have to disagree with Titus' plan regarding LuckyLee claiming.

In a world where LuckyLee is town :

Day 3
- 11 alive (8 town - 3 scum)
- LuckyLee is town so Kai is town
- LuckyLee claims (possible soup-kill but why would witches soup-kill him if town would lynch him anyway?)
- Eric is lynched
Night 3
- 10 alive (8 town - 2 scum)
- Witches don't soup LuckyLee
- Witches NK someone else
Day 4
- 9 alive (7 town - 2 scum)
- Town lynches LuckyLee
Night 4
- 8 alive (6-2)
- Witches kill someone
Day 5
- 7 alive (5-2) = 3 mls left til they win

This scenario doesn't even consider the DOB, Crusader, and Vig kills.
Put them into consideration and we might be lylo on Day 5.

It's a pretty high-risk high-reward situation. A priest check, on the other hand, might not be as lucrative but doesn't make us sacrifice town's shot at winning.

 

I don't think Ruckyree is scum but that doesn't mean I am certain Ruckyree is town.

My plan is as follows:

Cop checks someone other than Ruckyree.
If cop gets a guilty, no point in pressuring Ruckyree, lynch the guilty.


Suppose cop gets innocent/doesn't claim. Ruckyree then claims.

If Ruckyree is CCed, then we have a 1 v 1 scenario, town v scum.
If Ruckyree is NOT cced, then if he's town he'll be souped. If not, he'll be lynched the next day.

Basically, there's no place for Ruckyree to hide if scum.

Sesc, this is why I frequently get lynched. I move the pieces in manners others don't understand.

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Wetnurse, Ruckyree shouldn't claim till tomorrow.

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Day 3
- 11 alive (8 town - 3 scum)
- LuckyLee is town so Kai is town
- Eric is lynched
Night 3
- 10 alive (8 town - 2 scum)
- Witches NK someone else
- Cop checks someone other than Ruckyree
Day 4 --- Cop gets inno result
- 9 alive (7 town - 2 scum)
- Ruckyree claims
- If Ruckyree is CCed, lynch Ruckyree.
- If Ruckyree is NOT CCed, then he lives.
- Big assumption assuming a mislynch here.
Night 4
- 8 alive (6-2)
- Witches kill someone (possibly soup Ruckyree)
- Cop checks someone else
Day 5
- 7 alive (5-2) = 3 mls left til they win
- Cop has at least 3 clears if alive, 3 clears v two scum excellent position

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That's the worst scenario. If Ruckyree is scum, then he'll likely be obvious when the time comes to claim.

 

I don't think == certainty. I use the certain word in VERY rare circumstances. I very much doubt that Ruckyree is scum. Do I know that beyond a reasonable doubt? No.

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**==/==

I don't think ==/== certainty.

 

Ehh I went through the thread a while ago, and Zeit looked the worst to me. So Sesc, in a world where I am scum, why did scum decide not to NK?