/me facepalms

Yeah, that mostly alluded to the fact that I'm a town player than anything else. But sure, w/e floats your boat.

You guys can go ahead and look at how the voting against me started, look at my questions (which have been answered poorly) and make up your own damn minds.
Cobalt: Thanks for trying bruh. I'm off to sleep. o/

 

Nae'blis: Would you describe your current mindset with "What do you want from me?"

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Eh, you've said as much already.

 

Lol, that was kind of all I went on. I thought it was a soft claim of a SIGNIFICANT power role and then Nae said he didn't claim anything. Lynch him then. I'm at work. @ me if you need me for majority.

 

I'll be laughing tomorrow.

 

Snowvon, Fontisian, Citrus, Taure, Riley, Newcomb and Kalas currently voting Naeblis, as far as I can tell. That's 7 - a soft lynch.

 

That coupled with my gut saying this wagon is not a good thing had me act. I thought Nae was on my wavelength but apparently he has no idea what I meant and/or didn't pay attention to my posts in which case bye.

 

This seems dramtically contrary to your earlier positions. You lectured me significantly about not voting on personal factors or self-interest, about how you should vote solely on belief about town/witch affiliation. And now you're okay with Naeblis being lynched because a) he doesn't think like you and/or b) he didn't pay you enough attention.

 

Cobalt:
I don't really mind lynching Sesc, I just have people that i think are scummier.

I gave my reason for disliking Typhon earlier.

I told you why I do not really like fonti, but i am unsure about her. Willing to kill her if my townreads have no reasons to keep her alive.
Citrus wants her dead, Von has a gutread that he said is not really valid anymore.
Newcomb has a slight townread, which is a bit of meta, that he himself says is not valid and other than that "ishe is a strong player". Which is mute considering that this game has several of those and i do not think we will give all of them a day 1 pass for nothing.

Nae'blis is not towny at all this game. He is mainly nothing. I do think that Fonti/Nae'blis are unlikely w/w, and most likely v/w - which means if i am wrong on her, he is a really good kill.

I had Riley at the bottom as well, mostly for being gone way longer than he said he would be, i think. His first post was kinda neat, but could be premade-ish just to look carefree.
His second post towards me went in the same direction, which made it feel more genuine. Thus putting him in the middle of the pack instead the bottom.

If we do not lynch within those 3, then i am willing to lynch sesc.
Or if someone makes a good case to change my mind (but that does count for everyone, not just him)

 

Well Jan, I'll tell you that I've been mulling it over. We could always lynch Sesc today and then just lynch Nae tomorrow if we're wrong about it. Plus, it's also a decent sized wagon. I'll join if it means ending day so we actually get a result.

Unvote Naeblisk
Vote Sesc

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Not a long argument, but a succint one I think.

 

I could see this being true, but it's one of those cases where 80% of the evidence is pointing towards the guy, and while I may feel bad about one voice feeling a little squirmish about how it all plays out, I'll feel a lot more bad ignoring the other 9 voices yelling lynch the witch

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I have yet to see you respond to this Fontisian

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Also why do this?

 

Okay, I'm having to drive to and from the appointment, so I'm not having the time I expected. Still, I have a bit of time in the office and I'll eat afterwards, so let's do this.

Like I said, the first bit is simply addressing the optimal state of the plan. We're past the point of new lump nominations being a thing in my opinion. Newcomb ran the plan out, he's my vote lump. Ideally for me, he's a minor town role. He obviously shouldn't claim that, but that's what I hope for.

There is the ideal plan, and there is what we have. What we have is a plan that I endorse, and a lump that I like because I think I have a bead on him and because he is fairly divisive. What is ideal doesn't really play into changing votes, Taure and I were essentially just theory-crafting a bit at that point. So yeah, I see what you're saying, but think it is beside the point.

As for the later bits, it was what they're calling a Garcia, of sorts. Irene went hard on Newcomb, he's my top town read. I decided to go with my read to avoid pushing a state of affairs that I didn't believe in. Town would be utterly incompetent if there weren't some questions about that. I preempted them. It had at least part of the desired effect, since it mellowed Newcomb from my slot needing to be instalynched to where he was at last check.

And as much as I'm tempted to let fonti speak for me and dance around that last bit, though, that is actually a mistake. You're right, of course, in that what I have written is wrong. Irene had already rolled town when she wrote that in the QT, because the QT is for her town role. That wasn't the point, though. The point was that things occurred exactly as she predicted they would - that she would see her scum game in Newcomb if he rolled scum, and went on to outline it. Then what she outlined happened. Then she went in on him hard.

And that's it. Unless something new about that explanation comes up, I'm done wasting time reiterating it. Gonna catch up now.

 

Hrmmmm. Is it bad to say I feel uncomfortable about all the votes piling off Nae'blis when he 'softed' something important, and then I also feel uncomfortable about all those votes (some of the same people) piling back on when he takes it back?

Does our town not have a backbone? Are the witches fickle as evil can be? What a mysteryh.

 

Hate how this Naeblis thing is shaking out. All of this flooding back and forth makes me uncomfortable.

Jan is misrepresenting posts and plans in a way that is pinging me more, but I'm not getting that lynch today, looks like. Ugh. Sesc is on my case, but I think he's town.

Yeah, I like none of the lynch targets here.

 

Who would you like then?

List like 5 players in order of most to least

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Tick tock, four on the clock

 

Citrus: re Von, you're wrong.

Re Nae'blis, the way he rescinded was scummy and he said the equivalent of "What do you want from me," a fairly accurate scumtell.

 

Fonti. I really don't want to throw a lump vote on Snow. Realllllllly don't.. would the info be worth it?

 

I'm in and out but will definitely be here at deadline.

Cliff notes: we're killing Nae because he said "I'd rather other people died than me" or words to that effect, and fonti has a point - "what do you want from me" or variations thereof are Mafia Words (tm).

 

Explain. You lumped Snowvon, you voted Snowvon; I said why; you said so he gets priest-checked; I asked why do you think that's necessary/a good thing because A) scum might kill him too if he's town and B) shouldn't you be able to read him so isn't that a waste for me to check him; you replied with this

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He had IRL issues and only just started posting in the thread (just clearing things up)